Workch:
It's better not to believe that snakes can talk. That's a better fairytale for me.

Hismasterpiece:


It is better not to believe that nothing created something. That's a better fairy tale for me

Workch:
Its better to believe it when we have evidence, that’s logical enough

Hismasterpiece:


Evidence that nothing created something? lol.. where have you ever witnessed something being created by nothing?

Hismasterpiece:


I ain't!!

alphaNomega:
oh shít you are serious

Okay, how is atheism a tale?

Hismasterpiece:


First tell me how Christianity is a tale

Hismasterpiece:


Christianity has claims as does atheism if those of Christianity are said to be fairy tales what stops us from seeing atheism as the same?

LordReed:


What claims does atheism make?

jamesid29:

The proposition that God(s) do not exist.

jamesid29:

The proposition that God(s) do not exist.

LordReed:


Wrong. Once again atheism is the lack of belief in gods, it is not the proposition that gods do not exist. Try again.

jamesid29:

If I may ask.
What field of study do you reckon the metaphysical or questions concerning the existence/inexistence of the divine fall under?

LordReed:


Theology? May be Philosophy?

jamesid29:

Yes sir, they would fall under Philosophy.



Even though theology does tackle the same set of problems when it comes to the question of the divine and might use the same set of principles, the theologian comes to the table with a set of presuppositions the philosopher need not come with.
Theology is much more constrained in it's field of study.The word "Theos" is already baked into the theologians field of study.

Vic2Ree:

What's your point here, if you don't mind me asking?

jamesid29:

Yes sir, they would fall under Philosophy.



Even though theology does tackle the same set of problems when it comes to the question of the divine and might use the same set of principles, the theologian comes to the table with a set of presuppositions the philosopher need not come with.
Theology is much more constrained in it's field of study.The word "Theos" is already baked into the theologians field of study.

jamesid29:

Yeah. So if the the question of the existence/inexistence of the divine falls under the field of philosophy, would you agree that the adequate definition of atheism should come from from the field of philosophy itself?

Hismasterpiece:
Dear atheists, you say there is no God. That is literally what atheist means: 'A Theos' which is the original greek word which means 'No God'.

You claim to be enlightened and more reasonable and logical and in your right mind unlike us religious people (not really religious people in general, more like Christians because that is the religion you people speak against the most in this section).

But i believe you guys are wicked. My reason being this. You see yourselves as being free and we religious as being enslaved. You see yourselves as being in your right mind and we religious as being out of our minds.

But in your wickedness you have left us all to our slavery and our insanity. Rather than reaching out to us in love and reasoning with us thoughtfully in order to bring us out of our deception and slavery you bash us, insult us, shame us, laugh at us in our wretched condition.

I don't believe you atheists really believe the things you claim to believe. If you really did, it would show. There is no aggressive effort being made by atheists to get the word out and deliver us poor theists out of our bondage. But the Christians who believe what they claim are aggressively spreading the word. Various radio stations and programs, various books and video and audio resources being used to spread the message but the same can't be said about atheists. How many atheist radio stations are there spreading the word about atheism and liberating people? How many Billy Grahams are there in atheism? How many Martin Luthers (both of them)? How many Oyedepos? How many apostle Pauls? How many mother Theresas? How many Andrew Wommacks? How many John Wesleys? How many D L Moodys? How many Kenneth Hagins?

If someone sees his neighbors house on fire and rather than rush and help them put out the fire and evacuate people from the house just walks on by and heads home without showing any concern at all, is that person a good person? If instead of helping them he begins to criticize them publicly and starts accusing them of being careless and stupid and idiotic and uneducated would that be fair? or kind? or good?

That is exactly what you atheists do. You people are selfish and want to enjoy your freedom alone while us religious folk suffer in chains. You show us no love or compassion. Rather than correct us lovingly and put us in the right path you shame us and try to make us look stupid for believing in what we believe in.

I don't believe this is fair treatment. The Christian believes the non-christian is going to hell, and in love he tells him and puts him in the right path. The atheist believes the theist is enslaved in his mind and out of his mind and rather than liberate him he attacks him. That is wickedness, pure wickedness.

Instead of making posts that logically and systematically explain atheism and why it is the right worldview, while logically refuting the claims of all religions step by step, you guys make posts mocking people who you claim to be in bondage rather than helping them lovingly.

You people are wicked.

Abraham Lincoln saw slaves and believed they shouldn't be slaves. And what did he do? shame them? mock them? no, he freed them. I believe that if you people really believe what you claim you should do the same.

Good evening.

Hismasterpiece:


Lol... atheism is also a white man's fairy tale

Hismasterpiece:


The examples you gave and what i said have nothing in common

Vic2Ree:

If that's the case then yes, I suppose

LordReed:


Ok? And the point is?

jamesid29:

Pls see my responses to vic2ree

jamesid29:

The proposition that God(s) do not exist.

LordReed:


Note the highlighted.

XXXXTENTACION:
Name the white man that invented atheism...

jamesid29:

Turns out that the definition of atheism as "lack of belief in god(s)" is almost non existent in the field of philosophy itself.
In almost all the encyclopedia & dictionaries of philosophy and amongst philosophers and in academia the standard definition of atheism is " the belief/view that there is no god(s)" or put in another way "The proposition that God(s) do not exist."

You can check
Stanford encyclopedia of philosophy( one of the most cited encyclopedia of philosophy)

Routledge encyclopedia of philosophy

Internet encyclopedia of philosophy

Encyclopedia Britannica

ismbook.com/ism-list/

The oxford companion to philosophy

oxford dictionary of philosophy

Blackwell dictionary of western philosophy

Cambridge dictionary of philosophy (the only dictionary to include the none-standard definition in a positive light but it itself holds to the standard definition as it's preferred one)

and so on

And it's what noting that the standard definition in this dictionaries/encyclopedias are written by atheist philosophers themselves.

So amongst the vast majorities dictionaries of philosophy and within philosophical discourse itself, the standard definition is used.

That I think begs the question why the vast majority of people on the internet and atheist activists still chose to insist that atheism is simply " the lack of belief in god(s)"? A definition that's almost none existent in academia itself.

MaxInDHouse:

Did your own father, mother or anyone from your race debunked the existence of supernatural beings?
Is it not after going through universities in whiteman's country that your brothers came back with the evolution theory?

XXXXTENTACION:
Shifting and going off the point...
before we start any disscussion please do well to mention the whiteman that invented atheism....

*note* IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER DON'T QOUTE ME AGAIN....

MaxInDHouse:


You must be out of your mind, whiteman brought the Bible and the same people brought Atheism. None of our people believe in evolution rather our people believe in God.
So stop talking nonsense here!