I agree with majority of what you've said but I disagree on a few.

It won't take 20 years. In fact in 20 years time, there won't be a country called Nigeria.

Either NINAS does a yeoman's job and helps us get the UN Security Council to conduct a referendum for us

Or

The Fulani overreaches and throws the entire nation into another civil war.

Either way, Nigeria's disintegration is here sooner than later.

Since Nigeria reject peaceful secession, ipob, need to change strategy in order to realise the cause, international community needed to be employed to see reasons of the secession, since most of them are paying deaf ears, but British want peaceful exit from European Union, but making others own difficult,.
Secession, is however, international politics involved.
There is need for ipob, to play by the rules in order to achieve it.

People who talk about getting secession clause put in the Nigerian constitution, reverting to Regionalism and IPOB participating in Politics, are all living in a dream world. They dont understand the Nigeria they live in.

The Nigeria of today is being run how the North wants it. How are you going to put secession clause in the constitution or revert to Regionalism when the constitution requires you to get not only a two third majority vote in the senate and house of reps, but also two thirds of the state assembly of all 36 states? It is mission impossible. Does anyone truly think that the North will vote for a system that will make them lose political control of Nigeria? Why would they do that?

Secession clause will never be put in the constitution, Nigeria will never be restructured, Regionalism is never coming back, the North will never allow any of these and they have the numerical strength at the national assembly to do it

The only option left for IPOB is to continue the agitation until such a time the North finally realise that a determined people cannot be held down, and agree to a referendum, even if takes 200 years

Anyone thinking that IPOB should join politics, get elected representatives that will go to a national assembly dominated by Northerners to move a motion for referendum is only living in fools paradise

TripleOh7:
I agree with majority of what you've said but I disagree on a few.

It won't take 20 years. In fact in 20 years time, there won't be a country called Nigeria.

Either NINAS does a yeoman's job and helps us get the UN Security Council to conduct a referendum for us

Or

The Fulani overreaches and throws the entire nation into another civil war.

Either way, Nigeria's disintegration is here sooner than later.

This is a big lie that has been told for a while.

The United Nations can never and will never conduct a referendum in Nigeria.

The UN charter supports self-determination but the article that supports self-determination leaves it open to only "people" who want to form a country to do so for themselves. The United Nations does not form a country for anybody.

The only thing the United Nations can do to foster State Creation is recognition. For instance, there's a civil war and as the civil war progresses, the seceding nation is accepted by other states as a new State, the United Nations can then recognize the seceding nation as a new State and offer them status of a member state of the United Nations.

I repeat no amount of agitation can make the United Nations create a State for a group of people.

jom28gy:
Since Nigeria reject peaceful secession, ipob, need to change strategy in order to realise the cause, international community needed to be employed to see reasons of the secession, since most of them are paying deaf ears, but British want peaceful exit from European Union, but making others own difficult,.
Secession, is however, international politics involved.
There is need for ipob, to play by the rules in order to achieve it.

South east didn't demand for Biafra but some IPOB miscreants. Honestly speaking, majority of us will support if they actually want to leave Nigeria. 1. Let there be acceptable map of the new country by the people that want to secede. 2. Let their political offices holders resolve in their meeting that they want Biafra only and nothing else. They don't need all political officers to do this, 50% percent is suffice. 3. Let their paramount rulers do same as number 2 above.
If they can do this, Igbo will secede in next two years.

ethicallyright:


This is a big lie that has been told for a while.

The United Nations can never and will never conduct a referendum in Nigeria.

The UN charter supports self-determination but the article that supports self-determination leaves it open to only "people" who want to form a country to do so for themselves. The United Nations does not form a country for anybody.

The only thing the United Nations can do to foster State Creation is recognition. For instance, there's a civil war and as the civil war progresses, the seceding nation is accepted by other states as a new State, the United Nations can then recognize the seceding nation as a new State and offer them status of a member state of the United Nations.

I repeat no amount of agitation can make the United Nations create a State for a group of people.

You may be right or not.

What I know is that there have been many nations that have seceded in the recent past and many more will secede. Nigeria is not an exception.

gidgiddy:
People who talk about getting secession clause being put in the Nigerian constitution, reverting to Regionalism and IPOB participating in Politics, are all leaving in a dream world. They dont understand the Nigeria they live in.

The Nigeria of today is being run how the North wants it. How are you going to put secession clause in the constitution or revert to Regionalism when the constitution requires you to get not only a two third majority vote in the senate and house of reps, but also two thirds of the state assembly of all 36 states? It is mission impossible. Does anyone truly think that the North will vote for a system that will make them lose political control of Nigeria? Why would they do that?

Secession clause will never be put in the constitution, Nigeria will never be restructured, Regionalism is never coming back, the North will never allow any of these and they have the numerical strength at the national assembly to do it

The only option left for IPOB is to continue the agitation until such a time the North finally realise that a determined people cannot be held down, and agree to a referendum, even if takes 200 years

Anyone thinking that IPOB should join politics, get elected representatives that will go to a national assembly dominated by Northerners to move a motion for referendum is only living in fools paradise

People who talk that way are skillful detractors! That's what they're... Chronic Unity Beggars! They're intentionally trying to get you to waste your time following a part that ends in a cul de sac. None of them is sincere and most of them are pro establishment mutants, injected into the discuss in places like this to muddle issues and cause endless confusion. They know the country won't work. They know the process they're campaigning for, can't be adhered to. They know the North and the APC section of the South West are leaches and economic parasites that won't let go unless you violently pull them off their hosts. So all these nauseating talks about following the legislative route, are to confuse the uninitiated and prolong the gorry days of a useless amalgam. Avoid them! Like they say: "If you allow yourself to be destracted, You allow yourself to fail.."

There is nothing like SS will support SE, make una face una tribal lands.

Each ethnic group go their separate ways, no be by force.

So how did you know that SE didn't demand for biafra and how did you come to call ipob "miscreats" people that even your president can't face. A lot of you talk carelessly

muykem:
South east didn't demand for Biafra but some IPOB miscreants. Honestly speaking, majority of us will support if they actually want to leave Nigeria. 1. Let there be acceptable map of the new country by the people that want to secede. 2. Let their political offices holders resolve in their meeting that they want Biafra only and nothing else. They don't need all political officers to do this, 50% percent is suffice. 3. Let their paramount rulers do same as number 2 above.
If they can do this, Igbo will secede in next two years.

This post reeks of inferiority complex. See the way the OP is talking about the British as if they are Gods.

What is wrong with you Yoruba people?
British people are humans like you.

Tụfịakwa

I agree with you, but where will you get the money to lobby sympathizers?
The North controls the Oil and Gas sector and Transportation sector (sea ports). These are Nigeria biggest source of Income.

after4:
So how did you know that SE didn't demand for biafra and how did you come to call ipob "miscreats" people that even your president can't face. A lot of you talk carelessly

Read my post again and see how set of people demand for a thing. IPOB demanding for biafra are frustrated unemployed igbo youth. We have various leaders in every region include south east, let them speak up on their demand.

I still ask you, how do you come to the conclusion that ipob members are unemployed? Answer that then we can talk

muykem:
Read my post again and see how set of people demand for a thing. IPOB demanding for biafra are frustrated unemployed igbo youth. We have various leaders in every region include south east, let them speak up on their demand.

after4:
I still ask you, how do you come to the conclusion that ipob members are unemployed? Answer that then we can talk

Their activities speaks volume and South east governors also said so.

So SE governors said so and their activities said so made you conclude that they are miscreants, unemployed and poor?
When you lack the capacity to think independently and come to a logical conclusion using emperical evidence, that's what makes you a zombie

muykem:
Their activities speaks volume and South east governors also said so.

muykem:
South east didn't demand for Biafra but some IPOB miscreants. Honestly speaking, majority of us will support if they actually want to leave Nigeria. 1. Let there be acceptable map of the new country by the people that want to secede. 2. Let their political offices holders resolve in their meeting that they want Biafra only and nothing else. They don't need all political officers to do this, 50% percent is suffice. 3. Let their paramount rulers do same as number 2 above.
If they can do this, Igbo will secede in next two years.

you get it wrong, you're above assertions had been demanded,did Nigeria accept it,no, right from Ojukwu till date,it was the demands of Biafra that Nigeria with their invisible hands, British, that causes the war.and is still causing it till date,

jom28gy:
Since Nigeria reject peaceful secession, ipob, need to change strategy in order to realise the cause, international community needed to be employed to see reasons of the secession, since most of them are paying deaf ears, but British want peaceful exit from European Union, but making others own difficult,.
Secession, is however, international politics involved.
There is need for ipob, to play by the rules in order to achieve it.

When did the Igbos try to secede peacefully and was stop by the FG?

after4:
So how did you know that SE didn't demand for biafra and how did you come to call ipob "miscreats" people that even your president can't face. A lot of you talk carelessly

Since 1999, Igbos have been voting for parties like PDP, APGA, APC etc this are parties that do not believe in the dissolution of Nigeria.

Nothing can stop any man that believes in Biafra from forming a political party whose main and only objective will be getting Igbos out of Nigeria in 4-6 years.

But Una dey warm up to vote a Fulani man in 2023... Ko si wahala

So that is your own reason why you think Igbos do not demand for biafra?
When exactly did Igbos vote for APC?

DubaiLandLord1:
Since 1999, Igbos have been voting for parties like PDP, APGA, APC etc this are parties that do not believe in the dissolution of Nigeria.

Nothing can stop any man that believes in Biafra from forming a political party whose main and only objective will be getting Igbos out of Nigeria in 4-6 years.

But Una dey warm up to vote a Fulani man in 2023... Ko si wahala

jom28gy:
you get it wrong, you're above assertions had been demanded,did Nigeria accept it,no, right from Ojukwu till date,it was the demands of Biafra that Nigeria with their invisible hands, British, that causes the war.and is still causing it till date,

Please refer me to any meeting held by South East leaders and their Communique demanding Biafra. Ojukwu is a military man and everything then was within military harachy.

muykem:
Please refer me to any meeting held by South East leaders and their Communique demanding Biafra. Ojukwu is a military man and everything then was within military harachy.

Stop speaking like a simpleton. Speak the truth! The Governors that head the states in Nigeria are bound by oath to ensure the sanctity of the FG. They will never come out and demand Biafra even if they want it. Okorocha is an example. Never spoke of the split while he was a Govornor, but did after power.

I have no numbers to back my next statement, but from my interactions with many easterners and southerners, secession is what is on the mind of most.

Does Nigeria want to find out, allow a Referendum. Is it still a government of the people?

gidgiddy:
People who talk about getting secession clause put in the Nigerian constitution, reverting to Regionalism and IPOB participating in Politics, are all living in a dream world. They dont understand the Nigeria they live in.

The Nigeria of today is being run how the North wants it. How are you going to put secession clause in the constitution or revert to Regionalism when the constitution requires you to get not only a two third majority vote in the senate and house of reps, but also two thirds of the state assembly of all 36 states? It is mission impossible. Does anyone truly think that the North will vote for a system that will make them lose political control of Nigeria? Why would they do that?

Secession clause will never be put in the constitution, Nigeria will never be restructured, Regionalism is never coming back, the North will never allow any of these and they have the numerical strength at the national assembly to do it

The only option left for IPOB is to continue the agitation until such a time the North finally realise that a determined people cannot be held down, and agree to a referendum, even if takes 200 years

Anyone thinking that IPOB should join politics, get elected representatives that will go to a national assembly dominated by Northerners to move a motion for referendum is only living in fools paradise

No problem then bro. Let your IPOB continue to use violence to achieve your biafra and bleed. Just don't come back here wailing when the dead bodies pile up

mmanwuijele:


Stop speaking like a simpleton. Speak the truth! The Governors that head the states in Nigeria are bound by oath to ensure the sanctity of the FG. They will never come out and demand Biafra even if they want it. Okorocha is an example. Never spoke of the split while he was a Govornor, but did after power.

I have no numbers to back my next statement, but from my interactions with many easterners and southerners, secession is what is on the mind of most.

Does Nigeria want to find out, allow a Referendum. Is it still a government of the people?

I am not aware that traditional rules signed any oath.