abbey621:


Again gibberish......Data simply does not support your sentiments, if you're not winning trophies you're not doing anything as a coach, go and ask Pochettino! How many times has Brazil won the world cup since 2000? If defensive football is not crucial then shouldn't the attacking teams be dominant? All the Samba could not help them to outshine the German and Italian machines. Like I said you've made no factual statement just sentiments because you like attacking free flowing football. You keep mixing up enjoyable with successful. You can play all the tiki taka you want but if you're not winning trophies then you're just entertainment. Gap between Wenger and Mourinho?.....Joker, irrespective of cup success? A coach that can't win trophies that one na coach? Siuuuuu

See your life there? Bet9ja spirit has completely possessed you as I see. “How many times has Brazil won the World Cup since 2000”? In all who leads in terms of World Cup collections? By the way how many times has Portugal won the World Cup? Are you conversant with football at all? I tire for you. Even Mourinho insisted that Wenger should be respected for his contributions to football, irrespective of their battles.

“......that one na coach”? Yet FIFA has him in charge of global football development. If he holds such a position where even Mourinho and other big coaches would benefit from his opinion, what else?
If football is all about winning, why do bet9ja fans like you smile to the bank when certain teams lose?

“You keep mixing up enjoyable with successful”. No. What I have repeatedly brought to the front burner is the fact that success should not only be equated with winning trophies. How much has a coach contributed to the development of the game in all facets?

Wenger is not a “cut and nail coach”. He identifies players, gives them opportunities to develop and they become great. Mourinho waits for money to buy the most expensive players, teach them how to ONLY defend, win cups by fluke and fans like you shout his praise. That’s the same job Zidane has done with Real Madrid. It’s very easy. Even you can assemble the greatest players around and they can win cups. That aside what else can you say is his contribution? NOTHING!

Cantonese:



See your life there? Bet9ja spirit has completely possessed you as I see. “How many times has Brazil won the World Cup since 2000”? In all who leads in terms of World Cup collections? By the way how many times has Portugal won the World Cup? Are you conversant with football at all? I tire for you. Even Mourinho insisted that Wenger should be respected for his contributions to football, irrespective of their battles.

“......that one na coach”? Yet FIFA has him in charge of global football development. If he holds such a position where even Mourinho and other big coaches would benefit from his opinion, what else?
If football is all about winning, why do bet9ja fans like you smile to the bank when certain teams lose?

“You keep mixing up enjoyable with successful”. No. What I have repeatedly brought to the front burner is the fact that success should not only be equated with winning trophies. How much has a coach contributed to the development of the game in all facets?

Wenger is not a “cut and nail coach”. He identifies players, gives them opportunities to develop and they become great. Mourinho waits for money to buy the most expensive players, teach them how to ONLY defend, win cups by fluke and fans like you shout his praise. That’s the same job Zidane has done with Real Madrid. It’s very easy. Even you can assemble the greatest players around and they can win cups. That aside what else can you say is his contribution? NOTHING!

You're not making sense! How many times has Brazil won the world cup since 2000? You failed to answer the question but kept deflecting, your usage of Portugal as an example shows you're clueless since you're using another attacking team to compare an attacking team. My point remains football as a whole has evolved beyond just attacking, complex defensive systems are now in place as evidenced by Italy, Greece and Germany. Even France had to deploy a two man brick wall of defensive midfielder in order to win the world cup, if football was all about attacking, Brazil should have had no problem dominating.

Your laughable rhetoric that somehow getting a job at FIFA makes you the greatest coach is comedy, your Bet9ja reference is also idiotic since I can't find any Bet9ja here in Atlanta. Guy I'm done arguing with you, I would rather waste my time and energy going on Foxnews and arguing with those racist idiots

abbey621:


You're not making sense! How many times has Brazil won the world cup since 2000? You failed to answer the question but kept deflecting, your usage of Portugal as an example shows you're clueless since you're using another attacking team to compare an attacking team. My point remains football as a whole has evolved beyond just attacking, complex defensive systems are now in place as evidenced by Italy, Greece and Germany. Even France had to deploy a two man brick wall of defensive midfielder in order to win the world cup, if football was all about attacking, Brazil should have had no problem dominating.

Your laughable rhetoric that somehow getting a job at FIFA makes you the greatest coach is comedy, your Bet9ja reference is also idiotic since I can't find any Bet9ja here in Atlanta. Guy I'm done arguing with you, I would rather waste my time and energy going on Foxnews and arguing with those racist idiots

Atlanta ko, Atlantic ocean ni.
How your unnecessary beer parlour and Baba Ijebu arguments make you feel cool is very mind boggling.
When has defence not been part of the game? I see clearly that you do not read before responding.
My point remains that Wenger brought changes to football. I hope you do not wear helmets on your head that prevent you from grasping things?
Thank you for closing the argument from your side anyway.
Hopefully you get a small win with bet9ja this weekend for some drink.

Cantonese:



Atlanta ko, Atlantic ocean ni.
How your unnecessary beer parlour and Baba Ijebu arguments make you feel cool is very mind boggling.
When has defence not been part of the game? I see clearly that you do not read before responding.
My point remains that Wenger brought changes to football. I hope you do not wear helmets on your head that prevent you from grasping things?
Thank you for closing the argument from your side anyway.
Hopefully you get a small win with bet9ja this weekend for some drink.

No that's not your point, your point is that due to the changes he brought, he is automatically greater than a coach that was much more successful than him, stop playing games nigga. If you're arguing know your boundaries and stop formulating sh*t! Your fascination with bet9ja shows that you're projecting your life insecurities towards others.....STOP IT & GTFO!

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abbey621:


No that's not your point, your point is that due to the changes he brought, he is automatically greater than a coach that was much more successful than him, stop playing games nigga. If you're arguing know your boundaries and stop formulating sh*t! Your fascination with bet9ja shows that you're projecting your life insecurities towards others.....STOP IT & GTFO!

Olodo.

You do not need to be rude or show any form of mannerless behavior, in simple discussions like this. You have been quite insolent and crudely arrogant from the very first moment that you responded to my comment.

If not for your mental myopia and inability to read properly, you would not have misunderstood me from the very beginning. In no way did I belittle Mourinho or project Arsene Wenger as the greatest. I have always maintained that the measure of success should not be by the trophies accumulated only but also by the overall contribution to the development and success to the game. Get that into that your okada helmet covered head.

“Fascination with bet9ja”. No. Your blind arguments without doubts are the characteristics of typical bet9ja players and reveal you as one.

Now you can clearly see that you're projecting your life insecurities towards others.....STOP IT & GTFO

Cantonese:


Olodo.

You do not need to be rude or show any form of mannerless behavior, in simple discussions like this. You have been quite insolent and crudely arrogant from the very first moment that you responded to my comment.

If not for your mental myopia and inability to read properly, you would not have misunderstood me from the very beginning. In no way did I belittle Mourinho or project Arsene Wenger as the greatest. I have always maintained that the measure of success should not be by the trophies accumulated only but also by the overall contribution to the development and success to the game. Get that into that your okada helmet covered head.

“Fascination with bet9ja”. No. Your blind arguments without doubts are the characteristics of typical bet9ja players and reveal you as one.

Now you can clearly see that you're projecting your life insecurities towards others.....STOP IT & GTFO

Clearly you have selective amnesia, here's an extract of yone of your replies:

Mourinho won several championships truthfully. But ask yourself what value he has so far added to football, except for introducing the boring defensive pattern of soccer that finally became his nemesis. Infact at certain times his players revolted against him. He once admitted that he was considering changing his pattern to a more attacking one. Is he not the one who removed our famous Mikel from an attacking midfield role to a defensive midfield role? Since he did that, did you closely take a look at Mikel’s career.

If this is not belittling then I have a virgin great grandmother to sell you, the problem with people like you is you're of low IQ but high EQ, you believe anyone you argue with online is your mate and when you can't defeat them intellectually you default to sentiments and character assassination. Now when the heat was reversed, you start whining and crying like a little biatch.....It's okay dude, it ain't worth it, accept your L in peace and give it a rest, abi you too na specialist in failure?