frank317:

walk means moving from one place to anther with your feet

So, nature has not designed human to move from place to place on their heads?

frank317:


where did u get the FACT that nature abhors it.

I eat by putting food in my mouth,


pls quote nature.. i am just realizing nature talks.

The body of a male is a fact.

The body of a female is a fact.

The complementary nature of the two is an unimpeachable fact.

Wow! I thought it was through the anus.

Nature talks, frank317. Nature has spoken. Look at the sexual organs of the male and female. That is nature speaking loud and clear.

frank317:

again what has happened to nature since men started sleeping with each other. 'a lot' is not anything.

It is not for you to know.

frank317:

where, when and how did nature tell u... kindly quote nature and explain how nature spoke with only u

I don't need to know? i need to establish if u are lying na

Again, the vagina of a female and the penis of a male are nature's loud and unambiguous assertion as long as sex is concerned.

Nature didn't speak to me only. Nature has spoken to all who are willing to hear.

Don't bother yourself about that.

LordReed:


The argument is homosexuality is natural, it is found in virtually every social specie on the planet. Nobody is arguing that because animals do it therefore humans should, that one is coming from your imagination.

Actually, my argument is that natural is not NORMAL. That something is natural does not make it normal. Like i said if you read instead of trying to pry into my imagination, there are natural cheats, pedophiles and liars. It's clear enough from my signature i think.

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Actually, my argument is that natural is not NORMAL. That something is natural does not make it normal. Like i said if you read instead of trying to pry into my imagination, there are natural cheats, pedophiles and liars. It's clear enough from my signature i think.

You wrote:

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. We are not animals. It's like saying some animals are carnivores or they move naked and behave animalistic so we should because it's their nature.

As if anybody argued that we should copy animals.

Define normal.

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Actually, my argument is that natural is not NORMAL. That something is natural does not make it normal. Like i said if you read instead of trying to pry into my imagination, there are natural cheats, pedophiles and liars. It's clear enough from my signature i think.

Natural or normal which even carries more weight? Are there really natural cheats, pedophiles or liars?

What is your definition of "normal"?

LordReed:


You wrote:


As if anybody argued that we should copy animals.

Define normal.

Normal is to be okay or acceptable.

elated177:


Natural or normal which even carries more weight? Are there really natural cheats, pedophiles or liars?

What is your definition of "normal"?

Normal is to be okay or acceptable.

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Normal is to be okay or acceptable.

So in societies where homosexuality is okay and acceptable it is normal.

Homosexuality is Atheism.

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Normal is to be okay or acceptable.

What then is your point?

LordReed:


So in societies where homosexuality is okay and acceptable it is normal.

No, it's not okay and acceptable simply because Sodom and Gomorrah think it is okay and acceptable. There are things terrorists and extremists think to be okay and acceptable which you do not think are, there are things you think okay and acceptable which is haram to some.
In the context of our discussion as a christian in the religion section, it is not okay or acceptable just like other sins like lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, divorce etc are not normal, okay or acceptable.


cc elated177

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No, it's not okay and acceptable simply because Sodom and Gomorrah think it is okay and acceptable. There are things terrorists and extremists think to be okay and acceptable which you do not think are, there are things you think okay and acceptable which is haram to some.
In the context of our discussion as a christian in the religion section, it is not okay or acceptable just like other sins like lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, divorce etc are not normal, okay or acceptable.


cc elated177

I am not a Christian so I am not talking as a Christian. You defined normal and homosexuality meets those conditions. If there are other conditions then your meaning of normal must be different.

LordReed:


I am not a Christian so I am not talking as a Christian. You defined normal and homosexuality meets those conditions. If there are other conditions then your meaning of normal must be different.

Homosexuality is not normal, okay or acceptable by Christian standards. You are discussing on the religion section of the forum. It is also not okay or acceptable by Nigerian standards from the little i know. We don't live in your bubble.

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Homosexuality is not normal, okay or acceptable by Christian standards. You are discussing on the religion section of the forum. It is also not okay or acceptable by Nigerian standards from the little i know. We don't live in your bubble.

Neither do we live in yours. This is religion section not Christian section. Nor is Nigeria the only country in the world.

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No, it's not okay and acceptable simply because Sodom and Gomorrah think it is okay and acceptable. There are things terrorists and extremists think to be okay and acceptable which you do not think are, there are things you think okay and acceptable which is haram to some.
In the context of our discussion as a christian in the religion section, it is not okay or acceptable just like other sins like lying, cheating, stealing, adultery, divorce etc are not normal, okay or acceptable.

cc elated177

Keep confusing yourself.

LordReed:


Neither do we live in yours. This is religion section not Christian section. Nor is Nigeria the only country in the world.

i don't ask you to, you are the one who keeps living in denial and questioning of the existence.

elated177:


Keep confusing yourself.

Look for help on keeping quiet.

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i don't ask you to, you are the one who keeps living in denial and questioning of the existence.

Except you are the one in denial. More and more people are beginning to realise that homosexuality is natural and normal but you'd rather act the ostrich.

LordReed:


Except you are the one in denial. More and more people are beginning to realise that homosexuality is natural and normal but you'd rather act the ostrich.

Homosexuality is as natural as its other sin family, we were all shaped in sin. It is only natural for man to sin, lust, anger, deceit, immorality, idolatry etc. They are all human tendencies and it is well stated in the Bible. It is a pity you just realized it.
But it doesn't end there. Sin is not normal or okay or acceptable. It may be acceptable to you, but when you come on the religion section of a discussion forum to say it is acceptable to you, your head will be forced out of the sand to see that our religion doesn't accept it. As expected, you slyly want to push the natural narrative, but it won't work for the sensible and the enlightened.

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Look for help on keeping quiet.

Keep confusing and deceiving yourself.

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Homosexuality is as natural as its other sin family, we were all shaped in sin. It is only natural for man to sin, lust, anger, deceit, immorality, idolatry etc. They are all human tendencies and it is well stated in the Bible. It is a pity you just realized it.
But it doesn't end there. Sin is not normal or okay or acceptable. It may be acceptable to you, but when you come on the religion section of a discussion forum to say it is acceptable to you, your head will be forced out of the sand to see that our religion doesn't accept it. As expected, you slyly want to push the natural narrative, but it won't work for the sensible and the enlightened.

This one, on the verge of trying to cover up his earlier blunder, has even spoken more atrociously. Chai! Ihe efu!

Brazen slyness. Dude, you need to stop talking.

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Homosexuality is as natural as its other sin family, we were all shaped in sin. It is only natural for man to sin, lust, anger, deceit, immorality, idolatry etc. They are all human tendencies and it is well stated in the Bible. It is a pity you just realized it.
But it doesn't end there. Sin is not normal or okay or acceptable. It may be acceptable to you, but when you come on the religion section of a discussion forum to say it is acceptable to you, your head will be forced out of the sand to see that our religion doesn't accept it. As expected, you slyly want to push the natural narrative, but it won't work for the sensible and the enlightened.

Atrocious!

Homosexuality is neither normal nor natural.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

El Elohe Yahshrael!


Romans 1: 26 Because of this, YHVH gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Romans 1: 26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

Romans 1: 26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading and vile passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural [a function contrary to nature], 27 and in the same way also the men turned away from the natural function of the woman and were consumed with their desire toward one another, men with men committing shameful acts and in return receiving in their own bodies the inevitable and appropriate penalty for their wrongdoing.



Loud and clear!


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Sublime.

LordReed:


Who programmed penguins to be homosexual?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgj7Wg1_Yc4

Probably a social accident from an amoral animal.

Boomboost:


Probably a social accident from an amoral animal.

I don't understand what this means.