DaddyRochie1642:
You'll still see one Nairalander that'll soon run in here with Full Speed and start arguing

No doubt that there are so many homeless people over there..But the reason is because of laziness,you can't compare a black african to any other race,cos we tend to have the hustling spirit than they do.

He his saying the truth. Even here in Frankfurt we have a lot of homeless people sleeping under the bridge in a very cold weather.

What are you doing to make her a hopeful country?

Remember you're also Nigeria (a part of the hopelessness)

meccuno:
Nigeria is a hopeless country

dasparrow:


You are lying! I don't know what is wrong with some of you Nigerians. America is my second home. Lived in U.S longer than I ever lived in Nigeria or in Western Europe where I was born. There are more homeless people than there are homeless shelters. I should know because I used to volunteer in shelters in the United States. And no, the shelters don't take all homeless people in or help the homeless with jobs, health insurance, etc.

There are so many Americans who are not homeless and have no health insurance coverage how much more the homeless.

Also, not all homeless people are drug addicts or people with mental health issues. Some are regular folks who lost their jobs, could no longer make rent and found themselves on the street. Most Americans are only 1 paycheck away from ending up on the street.

REAL Americans tell the truth about their country America unlike African migrants like you who stay hyping other people's country more than your own. America is on a downward spiral. Americans know this and talk about it all the time but African migrants like you will come online to lie about a country that you don't even originally come from because many of you are so thirsty for validation from Nigerians in Nigeria and want Nigerians in Nigeria to worship your azz all because you reside in America.

So many Americans are running away from America and migrating to countries in South and Central America, Asia, Australia and to Africa. Yes, you heard me, AFRICA!

Keep hyping America and don't go and fix your homeland. As a Black African, you will always be looked down upon no matter where you live on earth until you develop your homeland. America is not your ancestral land. Go and develop your ancestral land in Nigeria Africa.

People who only see American movies will come here to argue with those who have lived there and saw things first-hand.

NEW YORK NA BIG SLUM ...i.e some parts that I've seen.

EBMedia:


https://igberetvnews.com/1410791/ive-seen-homeless-people-new-york-lagos-filmmaker-imoh-umoren/

All under bridge. All schools, mosque, churches...

marenkurz:
Homelessness in developed world is self inflicted. There are free government housing they can move in to. But because they can't abide by the rules of those housing, they stay on the street.
By the way, one has to be extremely useless to be out of the system.

Same here in Nigeria. Every homeless person you see out here in Lagos comes from a certain village where he has a family house and will always be welcome. But he chooses to remain homeless in Lagos

JIREN01:
Most? Can you please speak for yourself and your immediate relatives please? Wetin happen. Life must have really dealt you a big blow to sound this negative.

Its the truth
The poor and wretched will always outnumber the rich and upper class combined in Nigeria
That's most of the population
So statistically speaking
Most Nigerians are doomed from birth to die in penury

Since 1960 till date
Tell me when Nigerians upper class and let me say the imaginary middle class outnumber the poor and down trodden in Nigeria ?
I'll wait

louqas:


I didnt say every car owner

I said a 2020 toyota owner

Car pass car abeg

Oww okay
I'll give you that one
But sometimes this could be because of the person was temporary out of work
You know a good number of americans really run thin when it comes to finances

ModestGal:

Keep decieving yourself
Anyone who is homeless in Canada (I live in Canada) has either chosen to be homeless, working on some great idea, struggling for the moment, drug addicts, with mental illness, has criminal charges.
If an immigrant can have a home, then, no reason why someone brought up in the system would be homeless. Also,most homeless people are homeless just for a while. But people in Nigeria, will start their lives as homeless and end it as homeless. Comparing Nigeria to the Western world is like comparing ant to an elephant. And yes,, there are more opportunities in the Western world than in Nigeria. Supports right and left. Stop decieving people, you are vexing me

There is credit card, which means you can borrow for a while, and their are houses of $450,shared apartments,etc. If you work in AA factory, anyone should be able to make that in a month to keep himself warm in a home.
You can rent room together with your friend just like in Nigeria. And these western worldss have immigrants from all over the world that could also lead to lots of people being homeless, but most of these people would be homeless for a while till things get better.
And also,, no mosquitoes,so if they are homeless,at least no mosquito to disturb their sleep

The OP mentioned New York.

ThatFairGuy1:
What are you doing to make her a hopeful country?

Remember you're also Nigeria (a part of the hopelessness)

Coming from someone who plays the tribalism game in full display on NL
Dont you know tribalist behaviour is part of the reason why Nigeria is a sheethole ?
Voting useless leaders like Buhari and co (due to tribalism) is also another reason?

Just saying

GetMeRight:


Lol at 750k. Why are they everywhere then?

They are largely concentrated in a few cities in a few states
There are some American states that dont really deal with homelessness

GetMeRight:


That's because when your Oga brings to Lagos state from village to serve him, he provides you food and accommodation. They don't have such luxuries in USA, na OYO

Actually, I brought myself to Lagos with my own money.

segtech68:
everything you said is very accurate except the making it big part. you can make it in nigeria , but it won't be big, the network of the richest man in africa is just some regular musicians network in usa, so what do you mean by big, if you mean comfortably rich then i would say you are right on that part. mind you , i'm not trying to argue with you sir.

Regular musicians


You don't know what you're saying



Nah Kanye West you dey call regular musician or what exactly?¿??

NOETHNICITY:
Same here in Nigeria. Every homeless person you see out here in Lagos comes from a certain village where he has a family house and will always be welcome. But he chooses to remain homeless in Lagos

Thunder fire family house!



Who family house epp?



I no fit bear this thing again......... what sort of rada rada is this

History555:
there is homelessness in American but to say there are more homeless people in America than Nigeria is a lie.
All those nigerians leaving in pako shacks are homeless because pako shack is not an home
All those leaving under the bridge are homeless
All those okada men at alabo rago, mile 12 who sleep on their bike and and shop with veranda at night are homeless
All those nigerians leaving in mud houses with no toilet facilities are homeless
All those nigerians leaving on lagoon, swamps are homeless
All those nigerians sleeping at churches at night are homeless
All those nigerians leaving in army and police barracks are homeless
All those nigerians leaving in houses with leaking roofs such that when it rains house na swimming pool are homeless
All those nigerians leaving in dead face me i face you with algae growing all over the compound are homeless
All those nigerians leaving in houses near refuse sites e.g lasu isheri are homeless
All those nigerians leaving in uncompleted buildings with no roof, Windows or plumbing are homeless


Finally if u are 4 5 ,6, 7, 8, 10 in one small room, oga u are homeless

The word is LIVING not leaving...

Factors that are responsible for homelessness in Neywork are not the same with that of Lagos.
American society is where real capitalism plays out. Housing is very expensive in New York , and most people want to live in this cities instead of moving to the suburbs where there is relatively lower housing price, Because of this, the price of housing will fly above the average affordability level.
People are homeless not because there are no Houses but because there is a low supply of housing.
Note: In urban planning parlance, housing supply is the number of affordable housing units available at a given time.
It is also important to note that no society no matter advanced can fully solve it's housing problems. Housing problems are wicked problems, from the streets of London, to the 4th avenue in Neywork down to the magnificent buildings of Paris they abound.

louqas:


You can never see a man that has 2020 toyota in Nigeria queue up for food stamp....never
The reason is simple....the american got the car on loan.... the nigerian most likely paid for it..such a person is most times buoyant enough not to need a food stamp.

This comparison is an abomination!



You shouldn't compare the drama in Nigeria to the scenes in America!




It is unfortunate......cursed be the day I was born when I witness such comparison!




The government here has ensured one of the worst economic disasters that has ever happened in the history of humanity!



Since the day mankind appeared, it has been one of the most terribly irresponsible and oppressive government ever!



All the rulers in Nigeria are manifestations of something disgraceful to humanity!



The world is in shambles and Nigeria is part of the twists and turns!




Spits on the streets!


Life is absurd!



Furrrk these things!

forget kenye west , Elton John, maria carry are as rich as tony elumelu that we classify as our top rich guys here . Andrew Lloyd is just a song writer but he's on the same rang with Abdul Samad Rabiu and folorunsho alakija... oga we have a long way to go in africa

HellVictorinho3:



Regular musicians


You don't know what you're saying



Nah Kanye West you dey call regular musician or what exactly?¿??

Ghostmode2two:
I have not been to NYC or USA so I won't argue with those who have been there. My question is can't they build small houses just as we do in Lagos? Get a small piece of land say maybe quarter or half plot of land and construct a self a two rom sef contain or 2 bedroom flat on it? Please forgive my ignorance if I have said something stupid because many quoters would like to come for my head on a silver's plate. Make una nor too provoke ooh bruhs

There are building codes and standards that have to be followed. This cost money and if someone pays for it they will want you to pay rent which will be impossible for someone with mental health issues, drug and alcohol dependence and trauma...

There isn't a lack of homes, there's a lack of affordable housing. Also, everyone wants to live in the big cities because America has land! There are part of America where there are affordable houses but then there are no jobs there and without work your broke and hungry.

There are problems everywhere in the world though. But there are just as much opportunities for success.

FreeIgboho:


He’s right. See below. And these are real jobs with benefits. Not 100k a month jobs

He said 30% of lagosian re homeless

Also another factor is the decline in single room housing in New York.
www.coalitionforthehomeless.org

A lot of people think about politics and society with the implicit assumption that all people are quintessentially similar.

In the US, the conservative flavor of this is “anyone can succeed if they apply themselves/work hard.” The liberal flavor is “anyone can succeed if they have the right training/opportunity.”

I’m gonna hit you with concrete brick from Reality: not everyone has middle class motivations, ambitions, and behavior. Some people do not fit into the societal model. They cannot live responsibly and you cannot train them to be useful.

The homeless population is not “regular folks who don’t have a place to stay.” There are a small number in that circumstance, but the rest are people who are socially maladapted. For various reasons they cannot maintain a place to live. This may be mental health, drug addiction, actively wanting to live on the side of a mountain (you’d be surprised!) or some other thing.

Many of them will bite the hand that feeds. They will refuse your help.

As a society, we have to make a hard choice about what to with this group. Do you let them fail? Do you institutionalize them? These are difficult things to wrestle with, but they underlying the fact that if you want this group to conform with the societal model, they’ll need to be supervised full time. There’s not necessarily a right answer - you are either respecting their right to suffer and sit in their own feces, or imposing your will upon them just to make everyone else feel more comfortable.

Most people from western countries live in societies that have some strain of individualist thinking. No one wants to admit that some people just suck. We’d all prefer to think that everyone is inherently good and has intrinsic value.
From Qoura

How about we ship those lazy freeloaders to some other country - preferably in Africa - where they can then see what poverty really looks like? Why should those of us who WORK subsidize the lazy bastards who want something for nothing? Ever see Section 8 projects where the blacks and similar live for free (or close to it)? They destroy it because it didn’t cost them anything in sweat equity or responsibility. Bleep them
Also from Qoura

There is a percentage of the homeless who are just that way due to bad luck. Lost a job, got a divorce, and had huge medical bills all at once, for example. Such people could be helped in this way. Give them a house and they would take care of it.
But there’s lots of homeless people who are alcoholics/drug addicts and/or mentally ill. If you gave them a house something bad would happen. Maybe they would pass out with a cigarette in their mouth and burn the house and themself up. Maybe they would just leave the doors open when they were in a crack den getting a fix, and rats would move in. Maybe they would think aliens were coming in the windows and shoot them out. People like this need to live their lives in custody. Not prison, more like abandoned kids who are made wards of the state. Put them somewhere where they have no access to illegal drugs or alcohol or guns, but do have meds for their mental illness and access to counseling.
Qoura

Though we know no system is perfect but it's annoying how some mofos tend to use that to justify the irks in our system..."so even these things they happen for US". Y'all will never use their good side as a standard for your failed country. Yes there are homeless folks ever wondered why they are homeless despite the fact that they have a working system?! It might be personal issues like drugs or job lol etc buh here in Nigeria, you'll work your a** out 24/7 yet na one dead face me I slap you you go dey stay and that to some people is called "home" smh. Inside salary, you go pay for dead Education, vigilante, Light wey no dey, buy fuel (that's if you're even fortunate enough to have one. Abegiii make una no ever try to measure up to the west! Don't!!! Even in their imperfections, they're a lot better than us! No cap!

You'll see Americans saying the truth about these imperfections and how homelessness is becoming a problem but try that here in Nigeria you'll be labeled as an enemy of Buhari.


Bottom line, DON'T USE THEIR IMPERFECTIONS AS AN EXCUSE FOR YOUR GROSS FAILURE!!!

segtech68:
forget kenye west , Elton John, maria carry are as rich as tony elumelu that we classify as our top rich guys here . Andrew Lloyd is just a song writer but he's on the same rang with Abdul Samad Rabiu and folorunsho alakija... oga we have a long way to go in africa

It's you that is making unnecessary comparisons!


Stop it!




Competition can't take away the distinguishable importance of certain Africans in certain matters!

The housing problem is in most countries created by zoning laws and NIMBYism. You try to find a lot of ground to build houses but thousand of neighbouring houseowners will swamp media with stories about why that is a bad idea.

Let all immigrants go back to their country and recheck again for homeless people

Abfinest007:
I perfer living homeless abroad than Nigeria .

Lol, this you wish for yourself is loud o. Cos i have seen a homeless man that said he had not taken baths in the last 2 months, telling in advice, after shaking hands with his benefactor.

I am sure it is only a MAD man in Lagos or Onitsha or the almanjiris that could be so vulnerable to an extent of not taking bath that long.

Go to YouTube and you would pity the US society .

Double0h7:


There are building codes and standards that have to be followed. This cost money and if someone pays for it they will want you to pay rent which will be impossible for someone with mental health issues, drug and alcohol dependence and trauma...

There isn't a lack of homes, there's a lack of affordable housing. Also, everyone wants to live in the big cities because America has land! There are part of America where there are affordable houses but then there are no jobs there and without work your broke and hungry.

There are problems everywhere in the world though. But there are just as much opportunities for success.

You are right.
In point of fact, for every homeless person in the USA, there are already something like five vacant houses or apartments. The problem is not inadequate housing. Rather, it's a question of ownership and marginalized people who are excluded from participating in a capitalist economy.

Peace1993:
Lol, this you wish for yourself is loud o. Cos i have seen a homeless man that said he had not taken baths in the last 2 months, telling in advice, after shaking hands with his benefactor.

I am sure it is only a MAD man in Lagos or Onitsha or the almanjiris that could be so vulnerable to an extent of not taking bath that long.

Go to YouTube and you would pity the US society .

Imagine someone living in Nigeria with 50% of the population living below $1 per day pitying US. Lol. The average income for poor people in US is $12,000 annually.

Forget YouTube oga. Go and read about the real reasons from reliable sources. Search coalition for the homeless on Google. Most homeless are either exconvicts, drug addicts or mad people. Although few are truly homeless.

AmosFishon:

Imagine someone living in Nigeria with 50% of the population living below $1 per day pitying US. Lol. The average income for poor people in US is $12,000 annually.

Forget YouTube oga. Go and read about the real reasons from reliable sources. Search coalition for the homeless on Google. Most homeless are either exconvicts, drug addicts or mad people. Although few are truly homeless.

12k dolls but expenses are 11k dolls. Lol. You really think the 12k is not subject to taxes and high expenses?