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Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by FoolishBoy419: 7:53pm On Jan 05, 2022
posty56:
this one think say war na film cheesy, go and read operation praying mantis, or Iraq war, let me tell Americans don't like escalating conflicts, you might see it as being an act of cowardice but it's called being smart, the Israeli wanted to retaliate against Iraq shooting rocket at them during the Iraq war but the US refused do you know why?, cause Arab nation's that dislike Israel will stop siding US during the Iraqi war both financially and militaristic, and could even turn around and support Iraq, do you think that's an act of cowardice or being sensible ?


Please stop making ignorant comments. Iraq and Iran are entirely different. The Iraq war was easy for the US because it was similar to Nigeria. Iraq had many ethnic and religious groups, most of which were against Saddam. Many Iraqis supported Americans and geographically, Iraq is very much different from Iran considering its mountains which make Afghanistan look like a joke.

Invading Iran would make Vietnam look like a joke for USA.

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Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by posty56: 8:27pm On Jan 05, 2022
FoolishBoy419:



Please stop making ignorant comments. Iraq and Iran are entirely different. The Iraq war was easy for the US because it was similar to Nigeria. Iraq had many ethnic and religious groups, most of which were against Saddam. Many Iraqis supported Americans and geographically, Iraq is very much different from Iran considering its mountains which make Afghanistan look like a joke.

Invading Iran would make Vietnam look like a joke for USA.
lmao, Iraq war is easy for USA, naim they gather or almost all the countries wet they NATO, plus non-NATO members, like I said to the op, you think say war na film.
Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by olugabbie(m): 7:40am On Jan 08, 2022
warripekin:
1. America hitting the beast of the middle East and four other generals in their motorcade was all the warning sign Iran needed to get. So it will be foolhardy for Trump to respond to an effective and at the same time direction less missile attack.
2. The worst mistake, Iran will make will be striking Israel , which will also fail because of isreali effective missile defense system in place. Question is, can Iran withstand a retaliation attack by isreal ? Remember the 6 days war.


If Israel attack any part of Iranian territory. Iran will respond. They have the military capacity to retaliate and they will. Israelis defense systems have not been tested against any advanced ballistic missiles.

I have mentioned this several times. If Israel really want to attack Iran, they would have done it. They don't talk. They act. But now they are just talking. But no action.

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Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by olugabbie(m): 7:59am On Jan 08, 2022
posty56:
if you think it's can defeat Israel then you are dumb, Israel wey dey sabotage Iran effort from acquiring nuclear bomb, something wey US no fit do, Israel they send mossad , 24hrs to sabotage Iran nuclear capacity, upon say it'sget north Korea and Russia for back , bro fear Israel.

May be you should tell us how Israel will deploy it's troops to Iran in the first place. You can't defeat a country with air strikes alone. You need troops on the ground. Israel don't have the capacity to deploy it's troop to Iran. Likewise Iran. But Iran has militia groups in Syria & Iraq that it can use to attack Israel. It also has advanced ballistic missiles & drones that can be used to attack Israel. The only option Israel has is air strike & ballistic missiles. So Israel can successfully strike Iran & Iran can do the same.

Israelis are not patient. If they are going to strike. They would have done it. But they know what the Iranians are capable of.

Don't let your obsession with Israel overide your common sense.

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Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by posty56: 11:22am On Jan 08, 2022
olugabbie:


May be you should tell us how Israel will deploy it's troops to Iran in the first place. You can't defeat a country with air strikes alone. You need troops on the ground. Israel don't have the capacity to deploy it's troop to Iran. Likewise Iran. But Iran has militia groups in Syria & Iraq that it can use to attack Israel. It also has advanced ballistic missiles & drones that can be used to attack Israel. The only option Israel has is air strike & ballistic missiles. So Israel can successfully strike Iran & Iran can do the same.

Israelis are not patient. If they are going to strike. They would have done it. But they know what the Iranians are capable of.

Don't let your obsession with Israel overide your common sense.
the same syria, Israel carries airstrikes on Iran's Hezbollah only it's too early to handle stupidity I don tell you the day Iran go mistakenly declare war on Israel na their you go know, Israel that openly tell Iran that it never have nuclear capabilities!!! even going to the extent of sabotaging their efforts to have nuclear weapons through mossad, go to Wikipedia and read isreal-iran proxy war, you still be small boy.
Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by olugabbie(m): 12:08pm On Jan 08, 2022
posty56:
the same syria, Israel carries airstrikes on Iran's Hezbollah only it's too early to handle stupidity I don tell you the day Iran go mistakenly declare war on Israel na their you go know, Israel that openly tell Iran that it never have nuclear capabilities!!! even going to the extent of sabotaging their efforts to have nuclear weapons through mossad, go to Wikipedia and read isreal-iran proxy war, you still be small boy.

Have you ever asked yourself why Israel is always talking about attacking Iranian nuclear sites for months & up till now they have not done it? If they are dealing with countries that has no capacity to hit Israel, don't you think Israel would have carried out the attack? Israel is not that patient. It is just common sense.

Sometimes, you guys make me feel like you know Israelis military strength better than the Israelis Leaders & military men.

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Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by Simeonjoe1: 5:24pm On Jan 09, 2022
MangekyoAlt:
Mumu boy. Why didn't Iran fire the missiles into US mainland?
A country killed your top general like a chicken, you fired missiles into their base in Iraq, after informing Iraq. The missile killed no one and yet you claimed it was a retaliation? Do you knw what retaliation even mean? Iran is supposed to take blood for blood but they did the exact opposite out of fear.

BTW Israel vs Iran is not even a fight lol
Iran would lose woefully if they tried to mess with Israel. Infact they would get obliterated!

Their supposed allies, Russia & China are maintaining a good relationship with Israel.
Israeli prime Minister recently visited putin in Moscow.

Also, Israel did not boycott the Olympics that would be held in Beijing despite USA, Canada, Britain and others have all boycotted. Plus they do trade with them all the time. That goes to show you that Iran's supposedly allies are doing okay with Israel lol

Forget mumu talk. Isreal cannot obliterate Iran, which weapons they won use. Note that Iran is armed with capable Russian weapons like the S300 Sam and the rest so they can hold their own against Isreal.
That's how one guy was saying on 1 vs 1 Russia will destroy UK...
Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by MangekyoAlt: 5:40pm On Jan 09, 2022
Simeonjoe1:


Forget mumu talk. Isreal cannot obliterate Iran, which weapons they won use. Note that Iran is armed with capable Russian weapons like the S300 Sam and the rest so they can hold their own against Isreal.
That's how one guy was saying on 1 vs 1 Russia will destroy UK...

Though not confirmed, Israel possesses nuclear weapons. So it's very possible.
S300 SAM isn't an anti ICBM with vehicle glide defence system so Iran stands no chance sorry.

Russia would obliterate UK in a 1vs1 but it depends on where the fight takes place Sha.

If the fight takes place in Russia, UK would be so obliterated that..... Infact, I'm struggling to find the right words for it. It would be the most brutal defeat In the history of the world.

If the fight takes place in a neutral location, Russia would win but it won't be easy... Let's say mid diff!

If the fight takes place in UK, then UK stands a chance of winning no doubt
Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by vibre: 10:30pm On Jan 10, 2022
Simeonjoe1:


Forget mumu talk. Isreal cannot obliterate Iran, which weapons they won use. Note that Iran is armed with capable Russian weapons like the S300 Sam and the rest so they can hold their own against Isreal.
That's how one guy was saying on 1 vs 1 Russia will destroy UK...
Which weapons does UK have? Russia is miles ahead of them when it comes to weaponry. The guy was right, Russia will obliterate the UK in a one on one fight. Do you know the Russians have more nuclear warheads than even America? Is that who the UK will go and fight one on one? Please don't even go there.

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Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by vibre: 10:37pm On Jan 10, 2022
MangekyoAlt:


Though not confirmed, Israel possesses nuclear weapons. So it's very possible.
S300 SAM isn't an anti ICBM with vehicle glide defence system so Iran stands no chance sorry.

Russia would obliterate UK in a 1vs1 but it depends on where the fight takes place Sha.

If the fight takes place in Russia, UK would be so obliterated that..... Infact, I'm struggling to find the right words for it. It would be the most brutal defeat In the history of the world.

If the fight takes place in a neutral location, Russia would win but it won't be easy... Let's say mid diff!

If the fight takes place in UK, then UK stands a chance of winning no doubt
No matter where that fight happens, Russia will obliterate the UK. Even on UK soil.

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Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by Simeonjoe1: 3:38pm On Jan 11, 2022
vibre:

Which weapons does UK have? Russia is miles ahead of them when it comes to weaponry. The guy was right, Russia will obliterate the UK in a one on one fight. Do you know the Russians have more nuclear warheads than even America? Is that who the UK will go and fight one on one? Please don't even go there.

UK has effective nukes and they have effective way of delivering them. Is not only about how many but how well you can deploy and precisely strike your target. UK has just enough nuke to completely knock out important Russia cities and industrial areas which are very few as compared to the UK.
In times of 1 vs 1 unconventional warfare, even though the Russian has an advantage in quantity I espect the UK to hold their own, and its most likely the aggressor will be the Russian which will even further put less strain on the UK
Forget Russian can't obliterate any UK in a 1 vs 1 non nuclear conflict. Which money they won use fight?
In times of economy and war funding UK comes top.
In times of war industries and production covering different weapon platforms, both are on par.
In times of the number of combatant- UK has the population of capable men that can be drafted.
In a long and tiring war of attrition UK can even sustain its operation more than Russia.
The only advantage Russia have is the first 3 month of conflict, the more it prolongs the more both side becomes more evenly tie.

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Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by Simeonjoe1: 3:42pm On Jan 11, 2022
vibre:

No matter where that fight happens, Russia will obliterate the UK. Even on UK soil.

Forget mumu talk. You think say UK na push over. That guy clearly gave an experience analyst based on the capabilities of both militaries and I agree to some extent.
Russia can't win on UK soil. On a neutral ground it's more even, though Russia has slight advantages. On Russian soil, UK will be devastated.
Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by God1000(m): 10:44am On Jan 14, 2022
Simeonjoe1:


UK has effective nukes and they have effective way of delivering them. Is not only about how many but how well you can deploy and precisely strike your target. UK has just enough nuke to completely knock out important Russia cities and industrial areas which are very few as compared to the UK.
In times of 1 vs 1 unconventional warfare, even though the Russian has an advantage in quantity I espect the UK to hold their own, and its most likely the aggressor will be the Russian which will even further put less strain on the UK
Forget Russian can't obliterate any UK in a 1 vs 1 non nuclear conflict. Which money they won use fight?
In times of economy and war funding UK comes top.
In times of war industries and production covering different weapon platforms, both are on par.
In times of the number of combatant- UK has the population of capable men that can be drafted.
In a long and tiring war of attrition UK can even sustain its operation more than Russia.
The only advantage Russia have is the first 3 month of conflict, the more it prolongs the more both side becomes more evenly tie.
in terms of landmass what is the size of UK compared to Russia?

Russia has 17,098,242 km square while UK has just
242,495 km²

Russia has second strike capability, I'm not sure if UK has it considering the fact that it has scaled down its military in both weapons and personnel.
Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by Simeonjoe1: 8:55pm On Jan 14, 2022
God1000:
in terms of landmass what is the size of UK compared to Russia?

Russia has 17,098,242 km square while UK has just
242,495 km²

Russia has second strike capability, I'm not sure if UK has it considering the fact that it has scaled down its military in both weapons and personnel.




No be about landmass. You no need level the whole country, just important cities, industrial and economic areas and military installations is enough.
Yes and UK possess the triad missile delivery. They have one of the best navy in Europe and a deadly submarine force that's par or even greater than the Russians.
Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by God1000(m): 5:10pm On Jan 17, 2022
Simeonjoe1:


No be about landmass. You no need level the whole country, just important cities, industrial and economic areas and military installations is enough.
Yes and UK possess the triad missile delivery. They have one of the best navy in Europe and a deadly submarine force that's par or even greater than the Russians.
don't forget about Russia S-400 missile defense system, the best in the world currently
Re: Why Did Donald Trump Back Down After Iran Retaliated With Ballistic Missiles? by olugabbie(m): 7:43pm On Jan 17, 2022
Simeonjoe1:


No be about landmass. You no need level the whole country, just important cities, industrial and economic areas and military installations is enough.
Yes and UK possess the triad missile delivery. They have one of the best navy in Europe and a deadly submarine force that's par or even greater than the Russians.

The only country that surpasses Russian submarine strength is the US. Infact Russian nuclear powered ballistic missile submarine fleet is very close to US.

Russia can launch nuclear weapon from all the available platform (air-using bombers, silos-land based nuclear ballistic missile launch from silos & vehicle, submarines and warships. Same with the US.

UK can only launch ballistic nuclear missile from submarine.

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