SKhanmi:
SpongeBob0006, noticed you sent me a mail, I don't have access to it, Reach me through the email address in the first post on this thread.

SKhanmi:


https://helpx.adobe.com/africa/creative-cloud/tutorials-explore.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/africa/creative-cloud/user-guide.html.

Use YouTube regularly & search for graphic design resources on Twitter, they get shared now and then.

Note: you'll learn faster trying to replicate designs done by others.

SKhanmi:
Went to check out bubble no code development, watched the first 10 crash course videos and tried to build a landing page from scratch before trying out the templates option.

Damn! I like it, unlike figma, you just drag and drop and edit in the pop up window that comes and you can easily see your changes in a test version on another tab etc... if one has a template on ground already. It saves a lot of time using a tool like this.

The templates are also good, just edit to your taste. I'm stuck with the colors though, haven't figured out whether they were first done in Photoshop/illustrator, saved as PNG files and uploaded as the background. Anyway I'll try post the 2 designs here later.

In the meantime, I have two case studies , one done by myself from start to finish, and another by a remote team I led. Already registered for another course which would add 3 more live projects making five plus I'll get to learn webflow on that also.

But....why wait till then. Let me polish up the case studies I have and my LinkedIn page & start applying, let's see what's lurking in the market for me
Used to attend interviews just to learn back then. It helped though, being confident, persuasive & likeable can get you far. Most employers tend to hire the more likeable candidate but try get skills also to show.

Still have a very low tolerance level to BS though.

All thanks to nysc & workforce back then for making me angrily draw up my no 3rd time rule. Shitty employers, shitty interviews & recruitment processes, lack lustre colleagues and I'm noping out. Nigerians and normalizing madness

Alphaman007:

nice one boss, Are you talking about the joe brendan's lowcode bootcamp coming up?

SKhanmi:
Before we start I noticed many people especially HR's are confused with design roles and the skillset that differentiates each, although most are guilty of just copying role descriptions from other job adverts. You can easily tell those who have no single idea of what the job role entails, this should help clear your doubts and also avoid places where they are deliberately looking for unicorns at cheap rates. Will try & explain all clearly.

1) UX Designer.
make a product or service usable, enjoyable, and accessible, they focus on user’s satisfaction and ensures the product fulfills the user’s need.
E.g. How does entering a danfo bus and a BRT feel? Which one makes you enter aggressive mode? How do you act when bringing out your IPhone 11 in both buses? Do you crave for the seats of a danfo? They are so soft and comfortable right? That’s what UX is about, the feeling.

2) UI Designer.
builds the interfaces for machines or software. They focus on the looks and what they convey.
E.g. When you look at the BRT and a danfo shape, what comes to your mind: Rough & Rugged or Calm and Chill? When you look at their respective seats, what memory does your butt reminds you of? When you enter a danfo, do you instinctively know the bad seats? The ones with no back support or are bent at a 35 degree? UI designers focus on intuitive design

3) Graphic Designer/Web Designer.
both focus on aesthetics but the main difference is the graphic designer focuses on prints publications, branding & advertising while the web designer focuses exclusively on creating the visuals for websites, apps, and digital products.
One communicates an idea/info through individual graphics while the other creates polished websites, apps etc. with the appropriate look and feel.

4) Front End developer.
is a software engineer who implements web designs done by a UI designer (backed by research from a UX designer) through coding languages like HTML, CSS and JavaScript. They are also called web developers.

5) Product Designer.
A product designer on the other hand ensures a product is relevant, functional and is cost effective. It’s like the Full Stack of design. They manage the whole process and more (UX, UI, Coding, Project Management, Product roadmap etc.), their job is to solve problems that might spring up from the initial process at any stage in time.
This should not be confused with product management, product designers solve problems and are responsible for its quality and integrity while product managers are responsible for the process organization: they organize the work of the former, decide on the priorities and assign tasks.


6) Design Unicorn.
is a jack of all trades that can do all or most of the above thoroughly and efficiently at an affordable price. That kind of person can research, design, code, write, create and edit contents, creating animations, pitch to stakeholders, manage sales, offer business advice etc. all alone, . Na one man army, no assistants. Seeing as most of the above job descriptions takes years to even get a grip on, my advice on seeing such job listings is to run, such organizations have no clear cut role for you. You will eventually end up doing almost anything. And the pay and stress won’t be worth it.

nnamdiosu:


Very nice. Well done.

However, are you saying there is a difference.between a web designer and a front end developer?

SKhanmi:


Yes, Imagine I used bubble to create a webpage, having no knowledge/experience of coding(html,css,Js) does that make me a front end developer? Could I drop into a discussion with 2 other front end developers and understand shit when they start talking about conditional loops, arity, rule sets, selectors and other programming jargons? Absolutely not, I'm just a mere GUI designer.

An architect designs, the bricklayer builds. Now it's a different thing if one person decides to learn both skills, which is common in the tech world. I'm just against the ambiguous manner these titles are sometimes used by individuals & employers. We all know how that goes.

nnamdiosu:


Ok, I get you. However...conditional loops, arity, rule sets, selectors and other programming jargons..that's for the backend developer na.

Or am I missing something? Perhaps u means there is a difference between backend developer and a web designer/front end developer?

Kindly clarify please.

Nice one, your teachings are apt

SKhanmi:


Thanks, those terms are quite common in front end development also as far as I know. If statements for example? anyone can understand that.

And differentiating between a backend dev & web designer? Nope.

Let's just say #Web design is an encompassing term like #Creative Design hence the confusion that comes with it. It's a parent word and we could fit all above-mentioned roles under it if we wanted.

SKhanmi:
Trying to take things one at a time nowadays. There's so much to do and learn.

Back to no code development, for those interested, this is a structured bootcamp on Bubble. Don't know if it would be better than what's available in the bubble tutorial videos.

Deadline is today though. It's free.


Pls, can you tell me the details of this bootcamp.

https://millionlabs.co.uk/no-code_bootcamps

Yarikson:
And what do you end up with? At the very end of the road to becoming a product designer? Let's say you can learn how to design products beautifully, but how much money can you end up getting for your work? Let's say from this article on mobile development, it's clear that the https://www.hallwil.com/blog/average-cost-mobile-website is not as high as you'd like, only up to $5,000 or am I wrong?

SKhanmi:
Learning about the Box model & Autolayout! I looked back at the my previous struggles in UI designing and almost cried, chai, I don suffer, ignorance is not a good thing at all. Guess that's what you get from watching basics youtube videos, definitely better to learn from those already working/have real life experience in the industry.

Emeraldfynest:
Do you have any resources you can recommend for learning the box model?

SKhanmi:
Phew!, It's been a while. Was finally able to streamline my activities to a select few. I have like 5 tech courses I've abandoned till later. They are not really useful to my product design journey right now (product management, crypto/defi etc), just my curiosity running rampant. Even completed and passed the aws cloud practitioner exam ( that might actually be useful in future), very interesting sector.
Hello, please drop resources and/or links to product management courses for beginners. Thanks

Back to Joseph Brendan's course, I'm really glad I took it even though I'm not a newbie.

Remember I mentioned trying to learn bubble? I actually went through some videos and got a good grasp of the fundamentals, I'm good at learning to use tools on a go.
Since I had some graphics design experience I was able to create some screens but it was agonizingly slow...and I remembered while I ran away from graphics design again, The long hours, unappreciated value of the designers and the poor pay.

So, yes I can do UI but I was starting to dislike it, until Joseph brendan showed me I was going after UI like a graphics designer instead of a software development angle.....Design stuff from scratch, grouping stuff, eyeballing padding spaces etc.

Guess just 2 things that made me stay up throughout the night feverishly working on my UI designs again.

SKhanmi:
ElGabi

https://aptlearn.io/courses/product-management-certification-course/

Came across like 2/3 others back then on Twitter, will post if I find them.

Alphaman007:

Hi bro. Nice work keeping the thread alive. How far have you gone with learning bubble? did you attend joseph's bootcamp?