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Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by YourFavEvangeli: 3:19am On Dec 20, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Again, Paul is not the liar in this case as he more than made it clear in the context that is Galatians 3 that he was speaking of and to those who are of Israel, those who were previously under the guardianship of the Law of Moses. undecided
Paul made clear to you in the context above that His message was directed at the Jews — those who were of the tribe of Benjamin, Judah, and Levi. In verse 28, He makes clear that under Jesus Christ, no longer were the people of Israel divided, but united as one people — children of God. undecided

Paul's mention of the law is based on the fact that Christianity is an offspring of Judaism and just the way I as a Christian is familiar with prophet Muhammad of the Muslims, the Greeks are aware of the law of Moses to the Jews.

Now introducing an offspring of Judaism to anyone, you have to explain where this story started from and where it is now. Anyone conversant with Judaism knows that it's a tribal religion so you have to let the gentiles know that through Christ, they have fulfilled that requirement of the law.
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by Kobojunkie: 3:22am On Dec 20, 2022
YourFavEvangeli:
1. Paul's mention of the law is based on the fact that Christianity is an offspring of Judaism and just the way I as a Christian is familiar with prophet Muhammad of the Muslims, the Greeks are aware of the law of Moses to the Jews.

2. Now introducing an offspring of Judaism to anyone, you have to explain where this story started from and where it is now. Anyone conversant with Judaism knows that it's a tribal religion so you have to let the gentiles know that through Christ, they have fulfilled that requirement of the law.
1. Jesus Christ told you in clear terms that His Law is in no way an offspring of Judaism. This alone renders your entire claims meaningless. undecided

2. Again, meaningless. God's Law, Jesus Christ, is a different and separate agreement from the Old Law which instead happens to be the Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan for the children of Israel. undecided
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by YourFavEvangeli: 3:24am On Dec 20, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. You are not making any sense here at all. It doesn't matter whether there is biblical evidence for who the samaritans are. What is instead important is that by teaching the Gospel, God's New Covenant in the Kingdom of God — not simply healing which amounts to bread crumbs from the master's table —to the Samaritans, Jesus Christ confirms that they are not dogs i.e. they are a part of God's Israel. undecided

2. If you paid close attention to the context of Galatians 1, you will eventually find that entire chapter, Paul dedicated mainly to his Jewish brethren who shared the same ancestry as he did. undecided


3. Pay attention! The Jews are a subset of the tribe of Israel — those who are descended from the tribes of Benjamin, Judah, and some from Levi who was the major population of the nation of Judea at the time of Jesus Christ. Those of the other tribes who had previously been cursed and scattered by God into the world were referred to as Gentiles —non-Jewish—by the Jewish subset. To the Jews, their brothers in exiles were gentiles.

4. Look, the long and short of all this is simple. No one can enter into the Kingdom of God without being a descendant of Jacob — Jacob is not Abraham. Even if that person claims to be of Abraham, so long as he/she is not of Jacob's blood, he/she cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. That is what Jesus Christ taught His followers. undecided

3. So are the Roman centurion, the Canaanite and the people of the Gadarenes now mixed jews?

4. This is false, please provide biblical proof of this claim.
A. Jesus said that he is the way (not Jacob)
John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
B. Jesus was sent to the world through the jews
John 3:16-17 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
C. Romans 9:24-25 (KJV) Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.

If you have any Bible verse that says that you must be a blood descendant of Jacob to make heaven, please provide it.
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by Kobojunkie: 3:31am On Dec 20, 2022
YourFavEvangeli:
3. So are the Roman centurion, the Canaanite and the people of the Gadarenes now mixed jews?

4. This is false, please provide biblical proof of this claim.
A. Jesus said that he is the way (not Jacob)
John 14:6 (KJV) Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
B. Jesus was sent to the world through the jews
John 3:16-17 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
C. Romans 9:24-25 (KJV) Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.

If you have any Bible verse that says that you must be a blood descendant of Jacob to make heaven, please provide it.
3. Again, Jesus Christ made it clear that His teachings and commandments are not for those who He considered dogs -- those who are not of Israel. undecided

4. The same Jesus Christ also said that He came only for the Lost sheep of israel and He also said do not give what is Holy-- His Gospel - to the dogs. So, unless you are attempting to enter another Kingdom that Jesus Christ is not the way into, then I suggest you learn to submit to the law as set by Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by YourFavEvangeli: 3:45am On Dec 20, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. You are not making any sense here at all. It doesn't matter whether there is biblical evidence for who the samaritans are. What is instead important is that by teaching the Gospel, God's New Covenant in the Kingdom of God — not simply healing which amounts to bread crumbs from the master's table —to the Samaritans, Jesus Christ confirms that they are not dogs i.e. they are a part of God's Israel. undecided

2. If you paid close attention to the context of Galatians 1, you will eventually find that entire chapter, Paul dedicated mainly to his Jewish brethren who shared the same ancestry as he did. undecided


3. Pay attention! The Jews are a subset of the tribe of Israel — those who are descended from the tribes of Benjamin, Judah, and some from Levi who was the major population of the nation of Judea at the time of Jesus Christ. Those of the other tribes who had previously been cursed and scattered by God into the world were referred to as Gentiles —non-Jewish—by the Jewish subset. To the Jews, their brothers in exiles were gentiles.

4. Look, the long and short of all this is simple. No one can enter into the Kingdom of God without being a descendant of Jacob — Jacob is not Abraham. Even if that person claims to be of Abraham, so long as he/she is not of Jacob's blood, he/she cannot enter into the Kingdom of God. That is what Jesus Christ taught His followers. undecided

1. The book of Galatians, Romans, Chorinthians, Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians were specifically written to gentile Christians.

Even below is a verse from Galatians 3:
Galatians 3:14 (KJV) That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

This verse above reaffirms that Apostle Paul knew that he was referring to gentiles and assuring them of their inheritance in Abraham's convenant through Jesus Christ.

See below the following verses to other gentile churches:
A. Romans 6:3-4 (KJV) Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
B. Romans 11:13 (KJV) For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

2. The Holy Spirit fell on Gentiles even without baptism as evidenced in Acts ch 10 as a proof that the kingdom of heaven and of God is for the Jews and gentiles through Jesus Christ.
Acts 10:1, 28, 35, 44-45 (KJV) There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

3. The greatest gift to the world is Jesus Christ, that greatest gift to anyone is the Holy Ghost which has been poured out on all who believe with numerous examples throughout the Bible till today.
The example of the Ethiopian Eunuch in Acts ch 8, and the various churches throughout Europe and Asia under the tutelage of Apostle Paul who himself was ordained as an Apostle to the gentiles
A. Acts 22:21 (KJV) And he said unto me, Depart: for[b] I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles[/b]l.
B. Acts 13:46 (KJV) Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by Kobojunkie: 3:53am On Dec 20, 2022
YourFavEvangeli:


1. The book of Galatians, Romans, Chorinthians, Ephesians, Philippians and Colossians were specifically written to gentile Christians.

Even below is a verse from Galatians 3:
Galatians 3:14 (KJV) That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

This verse above reaffirms that Apostle Paul knew that he was referring to gentiles and assuring them of their inheritance in Abraham's convenant through Jesus Christ.

See below the following verses to other gentile churches:
A. Romans 6:3-4 (KJV) Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
B. Romans 11:13 (KJV) For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

2. The Holy Spirit fell on Gentiles even without baptism as evidenced in Acts ch 10 as a proof that the kingdom of heaven and of God is for the Jews and gentiles through Jesus Christ.
Acts 10:1, 28, 35, 44-45 (KJV) There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

3. The greatest gift to the world is Jesus Christ, that greatest gift to anyone is the Holy Ghost which has been poured out on all who believe with numerous examples throughout the Bible till today.
The example of the Ethiopian Eunuch in Acts ch 8, and the various churches throughout Europe and Asia under the tutelage of Apostle Paul who himself was ordained as an Apostle to the gentiles
A. Acts 22:21 (KJV) And he said unto me, Depart: for[b] I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles[/b]l.
B. Acts 13:46 (KJV) Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
As I hinted in my previous response to you, If it is your belief that Paul created for you a Kingdom separate from the one that belongs to Jesus Christ, then you are free to believe him your savior and god. Goodluck! undecided
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by YourFavEvangeli: 10:45am On Dec 20, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Jesus Christ told you in clear terms that His Law is in no way an offspring of Judaism. This alone renders your entire claims meaningless. undecided

2. Again, meaningless. God's Law, Jesus Christ, is a different and separate agreement from the Old Law which instead happens to be the Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan for the children of Israel. undecided

FALSE!!!
I dare you to provide biblical proof of this
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by YourFavEvangeli: 10:47am On Dec 20, 2022
Kobojunkie:
3. Again, Jesus Christ made it clear that His teachings and commandments are not for those who He considered dogs -- those who are not of Israel. undecided

4. The same Jesus Christ also said that He came only for the Lost sheep of israel and He also said do not give what is Holy-- His Gospel - to the dogs. So, unless you are attempting to enter another Kingdom that Jesus Christ is not the way into, then I suggest you learn to submit to the law as set by Jesus Christ. undecided

But he went to the Gadarenes to teach and he ordered all to go to every nation of the earth to teach.
Mark 16:15-16 (KJV) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by YourFavEvangeli: 10:59am On Dec 20, 2022
Kobojunkie:
As I hinted in my previous response to you, If it is your belief that Paul created for you a Kingdom separate from the one that belongs to Jesus Christ, then you are free to believe him your savior and god. Goodluck! undecided

So the teaching of Apostle Paul, the testimony of Simeon, Barnabas and even the verdict of Apostle James are all useless? Or wasn't it God who wrought the wonders among the gentiles?

Acts 15:12-13 (KJV) Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:

Even the Lord Jesus said preach to every nation in Mark 16 vs 15-16 and he said in every nation, whoever believes and is baptized SHALL/MUST/WILL be saved
Mark 16:15-16 (KJV) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 11:17-18 (KJV) Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

So all these Bible verses are useless only because Jesus called a Greek woman a dog grin
Re: Why You Must Be Baptised In The Name Of Jesus by Kobojunkie: 9:37pm On Dec 28, 2022
YourFavEvangeli:
1. Even the Lord Jesus said preach to every nation in Mark 16 vs 15-16 and he said in every nation, whoever believes and is baptized SHALL/MUST/WILL be saved
So all these Bible verses are useless only because Jesus called a Greek woman a dog grin
1. Look, the fact that you cherry-pick where the teachings of Jesus Christ — the everlasting Law of God— is concerned, speaks boldly to the fact that you parse His teachings using your own wisdom, conveniently discarding all that does not fit in with the idol you live by. So, you need to make a choice... Jesus or the idol of Him you seem most comfortable with instead. undecided

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