mybiz234:


Even the way your Ojukwu handled the civil war and the way you guys have been commenting on National issues indicate mental emptiness, not ingenuity.

You may be good in business, but you are daft when it comes to politics

How did Ojukwu handle the civil war.
And how have we been commenting on national issues?

Igbos are daft in politics can only come out from a daft brain.
All over the world in functional societies, Igbos have excelled in politics. An Igbo is even a senator in Italy! The first African to achieve that.
Have Igbos not been justified in our assessment of Buhari as a failure?

Igboid:


How did Ojukwu handle the civil war.
And how have we been commenting on national issues?

Igbos are daft in politics can only come out from a daft brain.
All over the world in functional societies, Igbos have excelled in politics. An Igbo is even a senator in Italy! The first African to achieve that.
Have Igbos not been justified in our assessment of Buhari as a failure?

Lolz. Since Buhari became president, how much opposition has notable people from your tribe given him?

Aside from abaribe, where is your representation?


The way your IPOB, ESN et al had been carrying on about Biafra indicates mental daftness. You think everything is all about chest beating and noisemaking. That's dumb.

Azikiwe has put your tribe in this, and you have no escape route. You are suffering from Azikiwe's daftness, stupidity and mental blindness

mybiz234:


Lolz. Since Buhari became president, how much opposition has notable people from your tribe given him?

Aside from abaribe, where is your representation?


The way your IPOB, ESN et al had been carrying on about Biafra indicates mental daftness. You think everything is all about chest beating and noisemaking. That's dumb.

Azikiwe has put your tribe in this, and you have no escape route. You are suffering from Azikiwe's daftness, stupidity and mental blindness

Why should we give opposition to a failure supposedly politically better people like your people elected?
You think us for fools to clean your mess for you?
We knew Buhari was a failure and called him out for what he is, years later people who claim to be politically better are realizing what we realized since 2007 when Buhari started wooing us by using Okadigbo as his VP, yet we rejected him.

How is taking about Biafra mental daftness? Are you not ret.arded laidis? Catalonia also wants independence from Spain, likewise Quebec from Canada.
Grow up, unity cannot be by force.

You are mad. What did Zik put Ndiigbo in? Are you living in eldorado in PH, Abuja, Ibadan, Sokoto or Lagos?
Is it not the same rot and suffering? Are you buying your gas and food stuffs at different prize from Igbos?
Do you not see how daft you sound?
You can't keep a person on the ground without staying on that same ground with the person.
That's the situation NIGERIA is with Igbos since 1970.
To forcefully keep Igbos in Nigeria, Nigeria pressed a self destructive button it WILL never ever recover from again.
Is the dream of every Nigerian youth not to escape the hell fire Called Nigeria for better climes?

Una Mumu never do.

Igboid:


To forcefully keep Igbos in Nigeria, Nigeria pressed a self destructive button it WILL never ever recover from again.
Is the dream of every Nigerian youth not to escape the hell fire Called Nigeria for better climes?

Una Mumu never do.

Oga, shut up. Your Azikiwe has forced everybody to be part of Nigeria. You brought this upon yourselves. So, you go no where.

You are the cause of the problem and you are also the ones crying loudest about opression. Now Your Suffering Continues.

mybiz234:


Even the way your Ojukwu handled the civil war and the way you guys have been commenting on National issues indicate mental emptiness, not ingenuity.

You may be good in business, but you are daft when it comes to politics

and where have your ingenuity in politics taken Nigeria to??

mybiz234:


Oga, shut up. Your Azikiwe has forced everybody to be part of Nigeria. You brought this upon yourselves. So, you go no where.

You are the cause of the problem and you are also the ones crying loudest about opression. Now Your Suffering Continues.

Zik must have been a super human to be able to force everyone to be part of NIGERIA.
Mind explaining to me how Zik achieved this feat without a gun shot? Perhaps he could control people minds and make them agree to his opinions?
Mind explaining?

You are mentally not okay sha.
The suffering go round and is even worst in the North.

Igboid:


Zik must have been a super human to be able to force everyone to be part of NIGERIA.
Mind explaining to me how Zik achieved this feat without a gun shot? Perhaps he could control people minds and make them agree to his opinions?
Mind explaining?

You are mentally not okay sha.
The suffering go round and is even worst in the North.

Flaathead, go and read history. Zik was part of the representatives when Nigeria's constitution was being formed and he represented the entire eastern region.

Awolowo, representing the western region said people should be allowed to leave Nigeria if they want to, but Zik opposed him. Zik even said anyone who attempts to leave should be termed a traitor and the British backed him up since such an arrangement suits them.

It's strange I have to tell you all this. Do you read history at all? No?

So, boy, Zik has put your generation in bondage. You go no where. Now, your suffering Continues.

Goodlyhrt:
and where have your ingenuity in politics taken Nigeria to??

You are the ones laying claim to ingenuity, not me.

There is nothing ingenious about the Igbo tribe.

mybiz234:


Flaathead, go and read history. Zik was part of the representatives when Nigeria's constitution was being formed and he represented the entire eastern region.

Awolowo, representing the western region said people should be allowed to leave Nigeria if they want to, but Zik opposed him. Zik even said anyone who attempts to leave should be termed a traitor and the British backed him up since such an arrangement suits them.

It's strange I have to tell you all this. Do you read history at all? No?

So, boy, Zik has put your generation in bondage. You go no where. Now, your suffering Continues.

Can you provide the document where Zik said that anyone who wants to leave should be called a traitor during that secession clause conference.
I'm waiting.

Igboid:


Can you provide the document where Zik said that anyone who wants to leave should be called a traitor during that secession clause conference.
I'm waiting.

go through the content of the link and stop behaving like a fool.

It was Azikiwe that put your tribe in perpetual bondage to Nigeria.

The same Awolowo you people call a bad person was trying to save your tribe from bondage, but your own Igbo brother, out of stupidity, lack of foresight and mental blindness, insisted that you must be in bondage.

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/04/27/flashback-why-i-opposed-awolowo-on-secession-zik/

mybiz234:
go through the content of the link and stop behaving like a fool.

It was Azikiwe that put your tribe in perpetual bondage to Nigeria.

The same Awolowo you people call a bad person was trying to save your tribe from bondage, but your own Igbo brother, out of stupidity, lack of foresight and mental blindness, insisted that you must be in bondage.

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/04/27/flashback-why-i-opposed-awolowo-on-secession-zik/

You are talking nonsense.
Quote the part of that post where Awolowo tried to secede and was held back by Zik using military force.

Igboid:


You are talking nonsense.
Quote the part of that post where Awolowo tried to secede and was held back by Zik using military force.

Have you seen why I said you Igbos are daft?

Imagine how you are arguing. You argue like an idiot.

You are condemned to be bound to Nigeria by Azikiwe. So, enjoy your bondage

You guys are only good in business. Focus on your business and leave politics/governance for those who know how to use their heads.

mybiz234:


Have you seen why I said you Igbos are daft?

Imagine how you are arguing. You argue like an idiot.

You are condemned to be bound to Nigeria by Azikiwe. So, enjoy your bondage

You guys are only good in business. Focus on your business and leave politics/governance for those who know how to use their heads.

You are mad.
You claimed Zik stopped Awo from adding secession clause.
I asked you how Zik was able to achieve that? Did he have gun pointed at Awo? Did he have super power to get Awo and Balewa to agree to such.
You claimed Zik used the British. And I was wondering how Zik a single Individual could use the almighty British.
So I wondered maybe Awo declared Secession of Yorubaland and Zik galvanized army to invade Yorubaland.
But we know no such thing happened.

So basically, you are talking nonsense.

Zik a single man with no army to command, couldn't have forced Awo and Balewa to accept no Secession clause!

The least you can say is that he persuaded them on why it should be removed. Yet Awo and Balewa still had the option to decline.
If they accepted Zik opinion after persuasion by Zik, then they are responsible for their own actions as adults. ie they are as guilty as Zik in the clause removal because they agreed to it!

In essence, you actually have no talk. You are just a frustrated Yoruba man desperate to force Unity with Ndiigbo while making up illogical lies.

Secondarily.
If for any reason the secession clause was not removed before 1960.
It wouldn't have survived Gowon and Awolowo greed in 1967.
I mean Awolowo that backed and suggested the dissolution of the regions to create useless 12 states as a means to cripple BIAFRA to Gowon, and also helped Gowon remove the 50-50 sharing formula between regions and FG.
The same Awolowo that greedily facilitated the movement of oil companies headquarters from PH to Lagos.
This Awolowo wouldn't have let the Secession clause survive if it still existed when Gowon and Awolowo came to power.

So this whole secession clause thing is brainless, st.upid and redundant argument.
It has no basis.

Igboid:


You are mad.
You claimed Zik stopped Awo from adding secession clause.
I asked you how Zik was able to achieve that? Did he have gun pointed at Awo? Did he have super power to get Awo and Balewa to agree to such.
You claimed Zik used the British. And I was wondering how Zik a single Individual could use the almighty British.
So I wondered maybe Awo declared Secession of Yorubaland and Zik galvanized army to invade Yorubaland.
But we know no such thing happened.

So basically, you are talking nonsense.

Zik a single man with no army to command, couldn't have forced Awo and Balewa to accept no Secession clause!

The least you can say is that he persuaded them on why it should be removed. Yet Awo and Balewa still had the option to decline.
If they accepted Zik opinion after persuasion by Zik, then they are responsible for their own actions as adults. ie they are as guilty as Zik in the clause removal because they agreed to it!

In essence, you actually have no talk. You are just a frustrated Yoruba man desperate to force Unity with Ndiigbo while making up illogical lies.

Flaathead, read the content in the link I sent to you and stop conducting yourself as an idiot.

Thae problem with fools like you is that you don't read. Yet, you will be arguing in complete blindness

There is no iota of truth in his comment. You are even worse than the author for defending falsehood and fabrication. Let me ask you:

When and how did Zik abolish the regions?

Golan007:


Because he told the truth?

Bello and Awolowo supported the inclusiin of secession clause in the independent constitution but Zik was against it. The British colonist rejected Awo's idea.

ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!
So why didn't Awolowo insist on the separate independence for Western Region rather than staying in Nigeria with no option of seceding if post-independent Nigeria became suffocating for Yoruba?

Second, what specific force did Zik and his Igbo tribe deploy to make according to you" everyone to be together by force"

Third, which year and month was that force applied?

mybiz234:
The Igbo tribe can't lay claim to ingenuity.

If you are ingenious, your Azikiwe would have been able to see Nigeria's future and wouldn't oppose Awolowo about Nigeria's unity.

Awolowo, the real ingenious man, wanted a more flexible Nigeria that would give all constituents freedom of choice.

However, Azikiwe, the myopic one, opposed Awolowo and the British backed him up.

Ironically, the first tribe to want out of this rigid union is the same igbo tribe that wanted everyone to be together by force.

It is what you guys sowed that you are reaping.

Why are you insultive and abusive in a issue-driven discourse?

The content in the link you posted only highlights Zik rationale for opposing secession. It does not say Zik made the final decesion on the inclusion of secession in the independent constitution

mybiz234:



Flaathead, read the content in the link I sent to you and stop conducting yourself as an idiot.

Thae problem with fools like you is that you don't read. Yet, you will be arguing in complete blindness

Please how and when did ZIK eliminate the regions?

ba7man:
Most major step the so called ingenious tribe has taken resulted in near destruction of the nation and hardship that has transcended generations.

(1) Azikiwe abolished regions and eliminated the secession clause from our constitution.

(2) Ironsi introduced coup into the mindset of the millitary which set the nation back for decades.

(3) Ojukwu dragged the nation into a civil war.

(4) Importation which they excel in is actually the biggest killer of manufacturing and the economy in Nigeria, thus weakening our currency.

If say na better tins dem dey import, e for better. Fakest and lowest quality of everything down to fake pharmaceutical drugs for sick and dying people (Collect their money, even if it means killing the sick)........ well, at least they deal in the best quality hard drugs.

Uchek:
Why are you insultive and abusive in a issue-driven discourse?

The content in the link you posted only highlights Zik rationale for opposing secession. It does not say Zik made the final decesion on the inclusion of secession in the independent constitution

And who said he was the sole decider?

Do you know how to read at all?

Zik argued that Nigeria should perpetual and indivisible.

Have you paused for a while to better understand the meaning of that? It simply meant anyone who attempts to leave would be termed a traitor.

I guess you Igbos should quit arguing over national issues or politics.

Your reasoning is always daft in these areas. Just focus on your business.

Uchek:
Bello and Awolowo supported the inclusiin of secession clause in the independent constitution but Zik was against it. The British colonist rejected Awo's idea.

ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!
So why didn't Awolowo insist on the separate independence for Western Region rather than staying in Nigeria with no option of seceding if post-independent Nigeria became suffocating for Yoruba?

Second, what specific force did Zik and his Igbo tribe deploy to make according to you" everyone to be together by force"

Third, which year and month was that force applied?

You use your own hand to type that the British backed Zik.

May I ask you who was in charge of the military if not the British backing Zik? Did the southwest have military force to enforce its desires?

Stop being dumb.

Zik was responsible for putting your tribe in bondage. You go no where.

Uchek:
Bello and Awolowo supported the inclusiin of secession clause in the independent constitution but Zik was against it. The British colonist rejected Awo's idea.

ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS!
So why didn't Awolowo insist on the separate independence for Western Region rather than staying in Nigeria with no option of seceding if post-independent Nigeria became suffocating for Yoruba?

Second, what specific force did Zik and his Igbo tribe deploy to make according to you" everyone to be together by force"

Third, which year and month was that force applied?

The focus is on Zik opposing separation. So, he is the one that puts your tribe in bondage.

You go no where. Ojukwu and Zik have sold Igbos to Nigeria

Very brave indeed, that's why all your leaders always run away dressed as a female prostitute. Ojuwku ran away and left 5 million of your people to die and Nnamdi Kanu did the exact same thing.
Very brave indeed, that's why you can't fight your battles on your own,every day you beg the Niger Delta to join you.
Abeg just shut up, meth people are born cowards and will die as cowards.

Ekpeitit:
Very brave indeed, that's why all your leaders always run away dressed as a female prostitute. Ojuwku ran away and left 5 million of your people to die and Nnamdi Kanu did the exact same thing.
Very brave indeed, that's why you can't fight your battles on your own,every day you beg the Niger Delta to join you.
Abeg just shut up, meth people are born cowards and will die as cowards.

Are u just been a child or just a practical fool?? Why cant you be constructive in national issues for once

Uchek:
Why are you insultive and abusive in a issue-driven discourse?

The content in the link you posted only highlights Zik rationale for opposing secession. It does not say Zik made the final decesion on the inclusion of secession in the independent constitution

But he argued in support of the idea and his entire tribe is suffering from what he supported.

Can you deny that?

mybiz234:


But he argued in support of the idea and his entire tribe is suffering from what he supported.

Can you deny that?

And Yorubas whose leader Awo agreed to Zik idea, are living in eldorado today? You lots are funny.

Why didn't Awolowo stop Zik by declaring Western region independent, if indeed he was against secession clause removal?

Igboid:


And Yorubas whose leader Awo agreed to Zik idea, are living in eldorado today? You lots are funny.

Why didn't Awolowo stop Zik by declaring Western region independent, if indeed he was against secession clause removal?

Which Awolowo idea are you referring to? You should mention it now or keep shut.

Awolowo would declare independence because he is a military chief Abi? Or did anyone tell you that yorubas had their own military unit? Why are you so daft in your reasoning?

mybiz234:


Which Awolowo idea are you referring to? You should mention it now or keep shut.

Awolowo would declare independence because he is a military chief Abi? Or did anyone tell you that yorubas had their own military unit? Why are you so daft in your reasoning?

Exactly. Zik couldn't have stopped Awo from Secession, because Zik was never a military Chief.
Did that fact escape your brain too?
Who is daft now?
Zik suggested the secession clause stay. But he was never a military commander and never pointed guns at Awo to accept it.

Igboid:


Exactly. Zik couldn't have stopped Awo from Secession, because Zik was never a military Chief.
Did that fact escape your brain too?
Who is daft now?
Zik suggested the secession clause stay. But he was never a military commander and never pointed guns at Awo to accept it.

Yeah, he suggested it and that suggestion has put your cursed tribe in bondage to Nigeria.

Hope that fact didn't escape your foolish brain

Bonavi:
This have been transfered to the present generation of Igbo youths who have really surpassed the exploits of their fathers. Igbo youths have excelled in the midst of so many obstacles and prohibitions. They continue to break boundaries. They are initiators and master planners and I believe these extraordinary people will be precious In the emancipation and redemption of our dear nation.
As youths, we need to stand up now. This is our time, the old rogues in agbada cannot continue to divide and subjugate us,
Nigeria youths lets rise to the call of freedom for all nigerians

Bravery and Excell online

heniford2:
Which Nigeria we igbos are seeking to get biafra ur talking of Nigeria

Quit wailing.
The North will never give Biafra their independence.

ba7man:
Most major step the so called ingenious tribe has taken resulted in near destruction of the nation and hardship that has transcended generations.

(1) Azikiwe abolished regions and eliminated the secession clause from our constitution.

(2) Ironsi introduced coup into the mindset of the millitary which set the nation back for decades.

(3) Ojukwu dragged the nation into a civil war.

(4) Importation which they excel in is actually the biggest killer of manufacturing and the economy in Nigeria, thus weakening our currency.

If say na better tins dem dey import, e for better. Fakest and lowest quality of everything down to fake pharmaceutical drugs for sick and dying people (Collect their money, even if it means killing the sick)........ well, at least they deal in the best quality hard drugs.

You Igbo-haters are vile revisionists!

How did Zik 'abolish the regions and eliminate the secession clause from the constitution'? What kind of power are you attributing to Zik who was in effect just one part out of three...1/3? You infer that Zik didn't want the regions, so he unilaterally 'abolished' them while the other two out of three....2/3, who you infer wanted the regions, were sitting down looking at him while he was doing the 'abolishing'! And in which constitution was the secession clause that Zik removed? Also, as i stated earlier, when 1/3 was doing the 'removing' what were 2/3 doing.....looking on like lucozade?

So Ironsi carried out the 1966 coup, according to your revisionist self?

How TF can you sit on your bigoted ass and declare, even with the benefit of hindsight and history, that Ikemba 'started the uncivil' war? This shows you're nothing but a lying sack of shit and up to no good! You conveniently forget all the pogrom that went on for weeks in the north! Even after Ikemba told Easterners Dodan Barracks had assured him an end would be put to all the bloodletting, hence they should return to or remain in the north, you still make it sound like he was just itching for war? It was AFTER the gov't of Nigeria couldn't carry out its primary responsibility of protecting lives and properties of ALL Nigerians'.....and after agreements reached in Aburi, Ghana were reneged on, that Ikemba got the backing of ethnicities in the then Eastern Region to declare secession! Or did you expect us to carry on being sitting ducks for your depraved and bloodthirsty kinsmen that were out on an orgy of violence against eastern CIVILIANS in the north?

You see how two-faced and deceptive you are....now blaming the weakening of your useless naira not on clueless Buhari and his voodoo economcs, but on Ndigbo! Nigeria that had a thriving middle-class and was on an upward socio-economic trajectory, had everything nosedive like a plane in free-fall, with the coming of the bigot-in-chief, yet you wanna blame Igbos for his incompetence? Why don't you go and set up the factory that will mkae the importers to stop importing from abroad? You actually think there are more medium and small scale industries in the shithole state you come from than what can be found in say Anambra or Abia?

Fcking bigoted asshole!