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Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by bizzibodi(m): 8:12pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
samuelson06:Just like koran too....I get you. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by magicminister: 8:20pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
Grandmeister: Listen, please don’t ever tag me again if you’re not going to make sense! |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Grandmeister(m): 8:27pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
magicminister:OK keep screaming and putting up hastags on social media against rapists and ritualists see if that will do Jack shyt. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 8:29pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
derecho: |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by derecho(m): 8:34pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
[quote author=Alohaa post=109457510][/quote] I find it difficult to sift ur response. Every thing is within the quote. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 8:37pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
derecho: By the boldes i mean People have/can/will drift from good training regardless of what the passage says... Let me say something about your summary Smokers are likely to die young is written in every cigarette pack, they smokers see it but they don’t care... So let me apply it to your analogy, someone who eats shit does so cause he wants, not because he doesn’t know what’s right.... A sinner knows he is sinning But he does it anyways... |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 8:38pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
derecho: Yeah my bad Read through it, you’ll get it |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 8:39pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
derecho: oh my God are you serious So you’ve never heard of peer pressure or influence? So you’re saying that nobody doing yahoo Now was ever good? So everyone who steals now was always bad? Well, let me give you an instance, a lot of our popular musicians started singing in the church. (Ie, it is Considered a good character) Along the line they started doing secular music Do you have an answer to that? You said in the past “most Nigerians were honest” , No doubts Everything i have said so far is centered on the present society, i base what i say on the current situation not the past... You talked about the yahoo boy thing, It still brings you back to everything I’ve said earlier, you can train a child all you want, at the end of the day, the child might decide to dumb all your teachings and training... You said in the past people were honest Well i have a quick question, why do you think people are no longer that honest? is it that parents no longer train their children in the right part? They answer is they do, but the society is not what it used to be true or false. People have drifted from good teachings We have priests who rape church members We have ministers who use church members for rituals Some of these people started out with the right training and teachings True or false It’s a no brainer... the answer is true. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by chaloskyx: 8:53pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
she was into runs she knew the risks and was prepared to face the consequence unfortunately the consequence was death rip. to other runs girls out there be content with your lifestyle stop selling yourselves for money |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by derecho(m): 9:04pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
Alohaa: You raised many questions but they shouldn't be difficult if you are a Christian. Let me start this way, Why is your child not the one influencing his peers? I believe you know the answer about moral training now and in the past.No need to waste time on that. Singing in the church means nothing. There are people who sing in the church who will never veer into secular music BECAUSE they know what they are doing.By the way, going to church or working in church doesn't make you a Christian. Those turning Yahoo boys were not convinced it was bad, they only parroted it until the true test came.If you are convinced that killing humans for rituals is evil, for example, you'll not want to do it even if everyone is doing it.You'd rather opt for an alternative. Same thing with right teachings. It's about conviction. It's just like saying, I'll now come and say there's no God because of some unfavorable circumstance.Some things are settled from experience not because someone told you. Training helps you experience things.For example, I am more likely to believe prayers are useless if I HV never seen God intervene when I pray.If all I know is someone forcing me to pray, why won't I abandon prayers when I don't have a relationship with God. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Shalommy(f): 9:27pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
Wasted beauty. Chaiii.. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by derecho(m): 9:32pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
You seem to mix issues. So someone just wants to eat shit because he wants to eat shit? Funny u Every man is prone to immorality but some are know/understand the consequence better than others.Where they weak, they ask for grace and flee but the foolish one rages on and is destroyed. Let me ask you, If you are sure you'll die if you entered a car, will you enter it? Many of us misbehave because we believe there's a second chance. It's our level of understanding and knowledge that's shown when we are tested. The smoker ting don't believe what's written on those packs. Do you remember the days of Ebola or what's the name of that pandemic that the Liberian brought into Nigeria? How many Nigerians played with it like COVID-19? Nigerians don't fear COVID-19 because they are not convinced. That's what happens when the training you gave ur ward is not believable. If you as a parent are lying or having extramarital affairs, why would ur ward believe you? There's what gives authority to you as a parent-Leading by example A sinner that is sinning, still does so because he hasn't tasted of the grace that empowers him to say NO to sin. Some of those sins may be an avoidable addiction Alohaa: |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 9:48pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
derecho: So what you’re saying is people can’t go through proper training and then turn bad What I understand is, you’re trying to justify the unjustifiable... Good people can influence bad people And bad people can influence good people It’s vice versa Hahahahaha What do you mean by were not convinced? Even the pastors aren’t convinced ? Even the priest? C’mon who are we kidding? There’s a moral decadence in our society, it can eat through any form of training, except that child is strong and has the grace of God... No amount of parental guidance can tame a child that doesn’t want to be tamed... In the decades long gone, singing in the church was considered a good character Going to church was also considered good character But not any more, you can’t fault it. Decades ago dreadlocks was considered an abomination Today people are embracing it... Society changes, ours including... No matter how exposed someone is to “right teachings” They can chose not to follow it Children grow up and chose their own parts... Some were born in christian families When they grew up they became atheist etc Good teachings” even the earliest people where with Jesus Christ, but not all of them accepted him... So please, people can go through all the right teachings and training and still become whatever they want... |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by derecho(m): 10:01pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
There are somethings you've not grasped. For you to think every pastor/priest is convinced speaks volume. One thing is clear, that verse is inerrant. If you want to know what it means to be convinced, read and digest what Paul meant by "I am fully persuaded... That nothing can separate me from the love of Christ" You should have asked yourself why others are not yielding. Like I said, understanding matters. If you studied your Bible, you'll know that many not accepting Jesus then was foretold. Finally, if you train your child well, he'll turn out right.. Alohaa: |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by magicminister: 11:08pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
Grandmeister: Don’t worry! I’ll keep screaming with same energy when they come for your mother and sister and daughters and the people you love. Keep encouraging rubbish!!! On no account should they victims of such heinous crimes be blamed! If you don’t understand my perspective, then there’s no point having any conversation with you. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 11:16pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
derecho: Even peter denied Christ. Even John used a sword to cut someone’s ear off... Situation changes people, it’s as simple as it is. Answer my question please Are there people who have turned away from the teachings despite being trained and taught in the right part? |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 11:25pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
derecho: People that smoke, why do they smoke? People that steal, why do they do it? Lol You’re just throwing logic upandan... You do know that there are people who don’t believe in God? And things work out for them just fine... You’re the one mixing everything up Cause my argument still is The Bible passage you quoted is true, but not entirely true in our current society... There are people who after going through the best teachings and trainings, they go out and forge their own part... Judas at a point was a follower of Christ At the end of the day, he forged his own part despite everything he has seen... Stop making it sound like it doesn’t happen It does happen... |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Grandmeister(m): 11:57pm On Jan 17, 2022 |
magicminister:Calling my mother and sister in a failed attempt at emotional blackmail...you can as well relocate to sambisa and sing kumbaya with iswap..after all it is wrong for a terror victim to be blamed...if you can't still understand that it is a cruel world and you owe yourself to be cautious and careful then people like you will continue to be another statistics. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Grandmeister(m): 12:03am On Jan 18, 2022 |
chaloskyx:Don't mind them. We have become so averse to owning up to the consequences of our decision in today's world. Even as a grown asss man with well built muscles I still tell people were I'm going to...I try to always get back home before 9pm and I don't go to just anywhere because I want to have fun( even if that fun is free of charge). You cannot make contingencies for everything but you can TRY to minimise certain things from occurring. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Welcomme: 4:28am On Jan 18, 2022 |
Cokahot:This is another one. Jos is now a camp for ritualists |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by derecho(m): 10:20am On Jan 18, 2022 |
Fine is subjective friend.BTW we aren't talking about things working out fine, we are talking about deliberately training a child to live right. Why people smoke/steal isn't within the discuss. Except you are trying to suggest that proper home training is useless and it is the child who decidescwhat he likes. Alohaa: |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by derecho(m): 10:37am On Jan 18, 2022 |
Alohaa: I don't know how versed you are with scriptures. But let me assume you know the scriptures fairly well.Ever read of kings serving God but "not with a perfect heart"? The peter you mentioned, what happened to him when he repented? Change is normal but could mean improvements too. Humans are naturally inclined to evil but a good trainer with God's help prunes those inclinations. I asked why is it that everyone doesn't choose to change negatively? Why ? A person who fully understands the danger of going the wrong way, will never try it. For people to change negatively, something went wrong somewhere. That's why I obliged you less than 20% (for those who choose to become tearaway) and a possibility of over 90% for people that were properly trained. If training your child doesn't yeild good behavior/character why waste time? |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by codedguy1(m): 11:00am On Jan 18, 2022 |
iswallker: What is this one saying? As if its only runs girls that get killed by ritualist or ritual purposes. There are old women that were runs girls when they were young but nothing like this happened to them and there are those who just go to parties once in a while or decide to follow a guy home for the first time and they met their death. Stop talking like you know when something is going to go wrong. |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 1:24pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
derecho: Answer my question No dey whine me Does it mean that everyone who goes through the right training and teachings ends up good? Does it mean that SOME of the yahoo boys Ritualist Fornicators etc Weren’t trained or given proper teachings? You heard of the Catholic nun that left the convent to get married? Wasn’t she given proper training? Lol, guy you are just running in circles, I told you in our present society it takes Grace of God and how strong a child is to come out without negative influence.... And you’re repeating it... “ For people to change negatively, something went wrong somewhere.” These are your words... You just said everything I’ve said already... The verse is right, but not entirely right in our current society. The person in that your quote might have gone through the right training, but along the line changed, which brings us to the not “entirely right“ of the verse... And for what it is worth, i never said everybody can be influenced. All my words has always been SOME... |
Re: Plangnan Solomon's Mother Speaks On The Death Of Her Daughter by Alohaa: 1:42pm On Jan 18, 2022 |
derecho: Smoking was ones considered a bad thing, but now people do It regardless That’s why i used it... And what do you mean by stealing is not in the discuss? Have you ever seen a parent deliberately telling the child to steal? Deliberate training a child to live right means a child will not steal Will not murder Will not lie These are deliberate training or are they not? We come to our present society, we see people doing this things, despite going through all these teachings and trainings .... What is so hard to understand? |
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