tammyf:
You guys should get this straight .I'm in bonny island and work there.... LNG is the liquid state of our cooking gas which ofcourse we don't make use of . When they get to abroad they now convert it to gaseous state and sell to countries round the world including us ....we re buy it in gaseous state ....

Why can't they convert it to the gaseous state here? The ans is simple ...they carry iver 500% more quantity in a liquid state than in a gaseous state .savvy?

aribisala0:
Cooking gas (LPG) is also liquified

There is a fundamental difference between LPG and LNG

We use LPG in Nigeria to cook and it is also liquified NOT METHANE

LNG is mainly methane while LPG tends to be butane

LNG is stored at very low temperature minus 160 degrees Celsius enabling larger quantities to be squeezed into smaller spaces making it worthwhile as a business

The LNG is then transported by special ships and at the other end there has to be a REGASSIFICATION PLANT. These are all capital intensive infrastructure that has to be justified on commercial groundS
We use methane to power energy plants and this is delivered by pipeline
.
There is no need to liquefy methane for use in Nigeria
because there are pipelines

oz4real83:
this is what u should have said at the first instance instead of the insult. No matter what u say, we have almost all the raw materials here, we have the resources to buy the ones we don't have in order to produce what we need. Then what is stopping us, if not evil leadership.

aribisala0:
Guy there is no insult what you said was nonsense

Go and open a dictionary
and please

Stop talking

Nonsense

Anything that does not make sense is nonsense

Do not take it personal
If your ego is fragile or you do not understand English that is YOUR problem not mine

Do not make a habit of talking about things you know nothing about because it is very likely you will speak nonsense

LordFA:


Catching cruise right

enirock:
As na the only thing we get to export be that. We keep hearing diversification, but no Nigerian government wants to diversify because they believe they will continually earn from crude oil and its derivatives.

Biodun556:


https://leadership.ng/nigeria-exports-17-9mmt-of-lng-in-2021-tops-africas-chart/

otokx:
Qatar is doing over 80 whereas Nigeria is barely doing 20.

aribisala0:
Cooking gas (LPG) is also liquified

There is a fundamental difference between LPG and LNG

We use LPG in Nigeria to cook and it is also liquified NOT METHANE

LNG is mainly methane while LPG tends to be butane

LNG is stored at very low temperature minus 160 degrees Celsius enabling larger quantities to be squeezed into smaller spaces making it worthwhile as a business

The LNG is then transported by special ships and at the other end there has to be a REGASSIFICATION PLANT. These are all capital intensive infrastructure that has to be justified on commercial groundS
We use methane to power energy plants and this is delivered by pipeline
.
There is no need to liquefy methane for use in Nigeria
because there are pipelines

The main reason for liquefaction is to reduce cost of transportation . I know there has been talk of pipeline through the Sahara and the Mediterranean as an alternative which I believe would be commercially viable but the politics and security could be a challenge
I see how you have been battling to educate some folks here who clearly know next to nothing about hydrocarbon gas but won't admit it.
You are largely right that Nigeria does not consume its LNG, however, be aware there are pockets of few power plants that run on lng here, yes, I know in Kano. Their lng consumption is statistically insignificant (zero) when compared with those export figures, so you are somewhat right.
Ever heard of Greenvile lng in port harcourt? Very meagre production capacity but all utilised locally without export

oz4real83:
this is what u should have said at the first instance instead of the insult. No matter what u say, we have almost all the raw materials here, we have the resources to buy the ones we don't have in order to produce what we need. Then what is stopping us, if not evil leadership.

Tpharell:
I see how you have been battling to educate some folks here who clearly know next to nothing about hydrocarbon gas but won't admit it.
You are largely right that Nigeria does not consume its LNG, however, be aware there are pockets of few power plants that run on lng here, yes, I know in Kano. Their lng consumption is statistically insignificant (zero) when compared with those export figures, so you are somewhat right.
Ever heard of Greenvile lng in port harcourt? Very meagre production capacity but all utilised locally without export

aribisala0:


Sir before I start let me say I am not insulting anyone.

I think you are making a mistake

There is NO NEED for LNG in Nigeria

It is simply NOT NECESSARY
I am willing to learn so if there is a power plant that runs on LNG that you know please share the information
suspect that what Greenville is marketing as LNG is actually LPG
To the best of my knowledge there is no REGASIFICATION PLANT in Nigeria
Again if you know of any please share the information
Am actually on your side.
I see you have good knowledge of hydrocarbon gases and processing, and have decided to add to your knowledge bank.
Read and make some findings about Greenville LNG Rumuji port harcourt and you would thank me for this. There is always room to learn and know more my friend

Tpharell:
Am actually on your side.
I see you have good knowledge of hydrocarbon gases and processing, and have decided to add to your knowledge bank.
Read and make some findings about Greenville LNG Rumuji port harcourt and you would thank me for this. There is always room to learn and know more my friend

aribisala0:


Sir before I start let me say I am not insulting anyone.

I think you are making a mistake

There is NO NEED for LNG in Nigeria

It is simply NOT NECESSARY
I am willing to learn so if there is a power plant that runs on LNG that you know please share the information
suspect that what Greenville is marketing as LNG is actually LPG
To the best of my knowledge there is no REGASIFICATION PLANT in Nigeria
Again if you know of any please share the information

Tpharell:

Greenville LNG produces LNG (along with the other associated hydrocarbon gases) which is trucked out to be utilized by power plants without any export. There are also few industries (i know two) around the country that use LNG ( trucked from Greenville) to run their plants.
This is to bring your attention to the small upcoming local lng market aside the 100% export by NLNG Bonny

aribisala0:

Sir I have read up
Please if you want to quote me do not put your own comments inside the quote

I am just asking simple questions
1. Which power plant uses uses LNG
2. Do you know of any regasification plant in Nigeria

If you think about it

It does not make sense.
There is no need for LNG in Nigeria so I am not inclined to believe this without evidence
LNG is not cheap . The obvious sensible option for using methane close to source is pipelines which we have so why should we use LNG


Also you cannot use LNG without a regasification plant and finally

HOW IS LNG transported WITHIN Nigeria
It is not something you move in cylinders like cooking gas

This is not a matter of reading what Greenville says at their website
but JUST THINK ABOUT IT if you truly know what LNG is

Tpharell:

Now you're beginning to sound like the other guy you were arguing with here earlier. Be open to learn about what you don't know rather than sticking to only what you know.
From my writeup do I sound like i just readup on Greenville's website?
Just so you know, lng is transported in cryogenic tanker trucks from port harcourt to power plants in kaduna and kano daily, on Nigerian roads
Regasification is simply warming the gas to ambient temperature.

Tpharell:

Now you're beginning to sound like the other guy you were arguing with here earlier. Be open to learn about what you don't know rather than sticking to only what you know.
From my writeup do I sound like i just readup on Greenville's website?
Just so you know, lng is transported in cryogenic tanker trucks from port harcourt to power plants in kaduna and kano daily, on Nigerian roads
Regasification is simply warming the gas to ambient temperature.

aribisala0:
Regasification is not that
SIMPLE
It is very expensive
It would cost at least $ 1 billion to deliver a regassification plant with a capacity of 1 billion cubic feet of gas daily not to mention staff recruitment training and safety measures
You would need I billion cubic feet to produce 1000 MW/h of electricity

Tpharell:

You have clearly never heard about modular units. Not everything LNG is the size of NLNG Bonny. On greenvilles's website there are pictures of modular cryogenic storage tanks and regasification units which the company installs at any facility they intend to supply gas to.
A simple google search on greenville lng as i earlier recommended would have answered the questions you asked, but you seem to think you know everything there is to know. Newspaper links on google will show you that greenville lng is fully operational supplying lng to the north. So you know there are at least 4 lng refueling stations btw ph and kano which serves those trucks.
I see that you have potential but ignorantly destroying it with refusal to open the mind to build on the little knowledge

Tpharell:

So you know there are at least 4 lng refueling stations btw ph and kano which serves those trucks.

aribisala0:

I am saying that there is no power plant I know in Nigeria using LNG

Tpharell:

So, because you don't know about it then it does not exist and cannot be.
Anyway, i have pointed you to were you can find the answers you seek, but you seem to be unwilling to learn because of what you think you already know. At least, in my engagement with you today i have brought your attention to the existence of Greenville LNG in port harcourt, which you clearly never heard about until today, hence your ignorant back and forth. By the time you open your mind and realize that all what i have said here actually exists in Nigeria you will remember me!

Tpharell:

So, because you don't know about it then it does not exist and cannot be.
Anyway, i have pointed you to were you can find the answers you seek, but you seem to be unwilling to learn because of what you think you already know. At least, in my engagement with you today i have brought your attention to the existence of Greenville LNG in port harcourt, which you clearly never heard about until today, hence your ignorant back and forth. By the time you open your mind and realize that all what i have said here actually exists in Nigeria you will remember me!