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Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 5:39pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: Therefore, you Fear Not The Lord and even seek to subject Him to ridicule and insult. Thank God that He hath said "Behold, the day of the Lord is coming, Cruel, with fury and burning anger.. For that day belongs to the Lord God of hosts, A day of vengeance, so as to avenge Himself on His foes;" O Lord, Please Come Quickly and Bring Judgement to all evils.! |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 5:41pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:I once met a pastor like you who got angry when he couldn't answer my questions and he started fighting me. Thanks for your advice but no thanks I would keep asking questions to both God and man |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Steep(m): 5:41pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills:The first born used in colossians 1 vv15 means pre-eminence While the firstborn used for Israel means God first choice. Amos 3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities. Israel is the first nation God chosed to be his own |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 5:45pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: Now you want to bring in another topic when clearly everyone knows that Ishmael was an usurping bastard and therefore not the Legitimate First Born. |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 5:45pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Steep:Ok, thanks for your answer. It makes some sense. But why then use the word firstborn when actually trying to say something entirely different? |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by truespeak: 5:45pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Amen, brother, Amen. |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 5:47pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Forget about Ishmael. Let's not talk about Abrahams Children. We are talking of God calling Israel his firstborn not Abraham's firstborn. |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 5:49pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: Who would not be angry when you unprovokedly and wickedly seek to insult and ridicule a Friend who has done you no harm? O Lord God, Tarry Not, and let Judgement fall upon all thy enemies as Thou hath Said! |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 5:51pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
truespeak:Amen form me too |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 5:51pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: Israel is Abraham's son and therefore inseparable! He did not come down from heaven. |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 5:52pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:My brother, leave judgment for God. If you can't answer the question, I understand, most people can't |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by truespeak: 5:54pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills:SEALED! |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 5:54pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:God called Israel hi's firstborn that's the question I asked. If you choose to bring Abraham into this on problem but at least answer the question |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 5:55pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
truespeak:Now let's go back to the topic |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Steep(m): 5:55pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills:I believe the ise of the word firstborn is because the kind of relationship God desire to have with us is that of a family, that is why God is always describe as father and Jesus describe himself as a son, meaning even withing the trinity there is a kind of family relationship. |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 5:56pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Steep:Isn't God the actual Father of Jesus Christ? |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 5:58pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: I have already answered all and I add "O Lord, Please Tarry Not, Arise and Arrive and let thy enemies be destroyed forever with thy Judgements! |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 6:01pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Good 4 you. You clearly have no answer to the simple question. Anyway, I knew you wouldn't. It's not the kind of question your members ask you in church |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 6:02pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: I have answered and you asked other questions which I answered that brought you here. So now you are unable to proceed and have no other seemingly reasonable question to ask. So no road! |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Steep(m): 6:04pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills:Actual father in what sense? |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 6:05pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: Not after the thread clearly shows that I answered all the questions you asked till you have no more. That is why it is called a thread! |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 6:06pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Steep:the bible calls Jesus Christ his begotten son |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 6:08pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:You never answer. The question was simple, is Isreal's God's firstborn or is Jesus the Firstborn. You never even attempted it. Like I said you are not used to questions like this |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Steep(m): 6:13pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills:the only Begotten son of God because he only has a unique relationship with the Father, it has nothing to do with a literal birth. |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 6:14pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: The thread and its trail proves it already, you simply cannot believe that it has ended this abruptly and you are not able to perpetrate your evil. |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 6:14pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 6:16pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Steep:Begotten actually means literal birth. A child is either a begotten son or an adopted son |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 6:17pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: I answered at the beginning of my trail and thread and you ran out of questions, so no road! |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 6:18pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:It's fun to see you run from my question as always. Anyway thank. I enjoy doing this to you. We both know you are a smart guy so don't feign ignorance because we both know you're not a fool no need to pretend. |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by Dtruthspeaker: 6:22pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
tctrills: It was great to see you run out of questions after I had settled them all such that you have nothing left therefore, i am free to depart! |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by tctrills: 6:30pm On Jan 23, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Enjoy the rest of your day brother. One love |
Re: Who Is God's Firstborn, Jesus Christ Or Isreal by killyaselfie: 3:51am On Jan 24, 2022 |
Steep: Yes, you niggers are the last born bastards. Worthless weaklings who assent to their own alleged inferiority. Some Jews created a god, placed themselves above all humanity, and stupid niggers are busy venerating them. A wise man said by diet and education, people can be made fierce or meek, masterful or slavish, cowardly or brave. The steady diet of Christianity(and that Arab disease called islam) has definitely made you people slavish. Go ahead and tell me one more time about your Jew masters! Fucking niggers |
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