This story no just clear I no know if nah the loud or something abeg

Whazar:
This story no just clear I no know if nah the loud or something abeg

You did not come down from heaven, you were made from the earth.

We are not going to heaven, we are going to the new earth which God Shall Make.

This earth we know, will be destroyed.

And you guys don kukuma destroy am finish, so God will kuku do the K.O of it.

The talk about heaven comes from those who do not see (or the-evils) that heaven is a twin of the earth.

And it is the 2 of them that is Destroyed and the 2 of them that will be Re-made.

Why wont u fight....when u're looking into spiritual with physical eyes.and be blaming it on loud.

One would go mad if one took the Bible seriously; but to take it seriously one must be already mad.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

Wisesaying001:
One would go mad if one took the Bible seriously; but to take it seriously one must be already mad.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

Hmm this table you are shaking

Wisesaying001:
One would go mad if one took the Bible seriously; but to take it seriously one must be already mad.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

One can only go mad if you do not read your bible yourself and expect other people to interpret the bible for you.

For example what the op posted above there is nothing like that in the bible �

Yet he must he must heard it preached by his pastors all his life, never gone to search the bible if it's true.

God can't write the bible to save us and make it complicated. Prov 4:18,19

Where did you get the idea that man was created faulty?

ChocolateWine:



One can only go mad if you do not read your bible yourself and expect other people to interpret the bible for you.

For example what the op posted above there is nothing like that in the bible �

Yet he must he must heard it preached by his pastors all his life, never gone to search the bible if it's true.

God can't write the bible to save us and make it complicated. Prov 4:18,19

Where did you get the idea that man was created faulty?

Is there anyone on Earth who is perfect?

Wisesaying001:

Is there anyone on Earth who is perfect?

There used to be. Now there isn't.

God created us perfect but we lost our perfection by a deliberate choice of our first parent.

ChocolateWine:


There used to be. Now there isn't.

God created us perfect but we lost our perfection by a deliberate choice of our first parent.

Hence my word faulty
The fact that each human has his/her flaws proves my point right.

Wisesaying001:

Hence my word faulty
The fact that each human has his/her flaws proves my point right.

He did not create us faulty.

We choose to be.

Would you have like to come like a robot or an animal? Would that be perfect for you? He gave us the right to make choices.

The Great Delusion.

ChocolateWine:


He did not create us faulty.

We choose to be.

Would you have like to come like a robot or an animal? Would that be perfect for you? He gave us the right to make choices.

I am not talking about making choices,I am talking about having flaws in our life.
That was why I asked you the question "is there anyone on earth is perfect without any fault/flaws"?
Perfection is something that does not exist in reality. It is like a metaphysical concept that we, as limited beings, have created to justify our incessant thirst for developing ourselves. It is like the ultimate goal no one is ever going to achieve.
I follow the WABI SABI principle. To look for beauty in imperfections. Even various gods has been flawed. Nothing is in a straight line in nature. The curves and bends, is what makes it beautiful. Perfection is a myth. The yin and yang principle rules all areas of existence. Little bit of white in black, and little bit of black in white.

Wisesaying001:

I am not talking about making choices,I am talking about having flaws in our life.
That was why I asked you the question "is there anyone on earth is perfect without any fault/flaws"?
Perfection is something that does not exist in reality. It is like a metaphysical concept that we, as limited beings, have created to justify our incessant thirst for developing ourselves. It is like the ultimate goal no one is ever going to achieve.
I follow the WABI SABI principle. To look for beauty in imperfections. Even various gods has been flawed. Nothing is in a straight line in nature. The curves and bends, is what makes it beautiful. Perfection is a myth. The yin and yang principle rules all areas of existence. Little bit of white in black, and little bit of black in white

Yeah you're right. Nothing is perfect in absolute sense.


The statement you made was

.... who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

It's that bolded that directs me to the fact that we're created to make choices.

ChocolateWine:


Yeah you're right. Nothing is perfect in absolute sense.


The statement you made was



It's that bolded that directs me to the fact that we're created to make choices.

Understood?

Effect of weed!! That's why it is not clear.

Which book said we came from heaven?

I am sick of dumb people spreading stupid posts.

Wisesaying001:

Understood?

I understand your point.


Do you also understand my point that we can't blame God for our imperfection in the sense that you're referring to?

ChocolateWine:


I understand your point.


Do you also understand my point that we can't blame God for our imperfection in the sense that you're referring to?

Of course you were created that way.

Wisesaying001:

Of course you were created that way.

If you choose to have an open mind we can talk, if not we end it.

We're not perfect in the absolute sense, but we're perfect enough for what we require to be humans.

As humans the mistakes we made to become imperfect (from the "sense of perfect status" we were made from) was deliberate. It was not an imperfection.

You cannot assume because we are not completely perfect in the absolute sense then all our imperfections are as a result of a flaw.

We have perfection to a certain degree and he judges us based on that limit of our perfection. Psalm 103:14

Whazar:
This story no just clear I no know if nah the loud or something abeg

The post is from an unschooled mind.
Heaven is not a physical location but a spiritual reality my friend, or else you mean that Christ is in a particular location right now but that is not correct because even while he was on the earth he was also in heaven:
John 3:13
[13]And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

As I'm typing right now and as a believer I'm currently in heaven (not a location but a spiritual reality):
Ephesians 2:4-6
[4]But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
[5]Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
[6]And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
So most people have been confused by religion and they end up judging spiritual things with a religious mindset.

ChocolateWine:


If you choose to have an open mind we can talk, if not we end it.

We're not perfect in the absolute sense, but we're perfect enough for what we require to be humans.

As humans the mistakes we made to become imperfect (from the "sense of perfect status" we were made from) was deliberate. It was not an imperfection.

You cannot assume because we are not completely perfect in the absolute sense then all our imperfections are as a result of a flaw.

We have perfection to a certain degree and he judges us based on that limit of our perfection. Psalm 103:14

We are on the same page,just that you are taking it from a different angle.

Wisesaying001:
One would go mad if one took the Bible seriously; but to take it seriously one must be already mad.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.

Perfection is only in Christ!
God does not blame anyone for being imperfect!
Christ is God's plan for righteousness which you call perfection!
The only factor that robs you of the perfection plan of God is your unbelief against the gospel of Christ!
Take note: God inspired the scriptures but God did not inspire all the writing of the scripture!
Blessings!