me just dey think

My late grandma told me if u forbid goat meat u must also forbid the pot use in cooking it.

prodam:

in this issue,

the accused might not be guilty because the OP is not even sure he is just assuming, furthermore, the people involved are religious scholars and as such would have scrutinized the development or decision critically.
before passing such order, agreement would have been made and the guidelines are based on the Quran and sunnah of the Prophet(saw)
hope i didnt get it wrong muslim folks

No true Muslim scholar can jusify spending money that is associated with alcohol. I think during the first republic, the Northern region rejects any fund that is associated with alcohol, pork etc. They also reject any aid that comes from Israel, because they persecute Palestinians who are over 70% Muslims. The problem is that, today's Northern leaders are mostly hypocrites. They don't care where the money comes from as long as they missapropriate it.

Islam is CHICHIDODO, a Ganaian bird that detastes excreta

Islam is CHICHIDODO, a Ghanaian bird that dislikes excretar(shit), but cherishes a by-product of it(maggot)
U preach hell against Kai-kai(Sapele water), but don't have problem when it becomes concusion for the fight agaist Maleria.
I no fit shout for this hippocritical sort of religion.
Sorrryyyy!!!!

What does the govs of Sharia states use in entertaining their guest, water, hot tea in a hold weather abi na kulikuli? many of those govs have the most sophisticated foreign wines starched up in their domains. they r simply hypocrites, we saw same in the former gov turned pedophile from Zamfara. Its something the Southern govs should bring up because if sharia states are excluded from alcohol tax it means more money for southern states. I can see sharia states govs revising their position to 1 bottle per day per adult females excluded tho!

Probably because Nigerian Breweries and Guiness dont diferentiate between revenue from Alcoholic drinks and non alcoholic drinks

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Sad, people have to bend over-backwards to make excsuses for this hypocritical policy. The companies know exactly how to different their revenues sources, thank you. And even if they don't, the "holy" sharia states should demand it in order not to be contaminated by alcohol money

  ;DD
I can't help but laugh, so, u guys are just realising the hypocrisy of these islamic states in Nigeria. They are against alcohol but take burukutu, yoghourt, cheese, cakes preserved with alcohol and above all, collect monthly allocation accrued from tax collected from production and sales of alcohol, hypocrites,

naijaking1:

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Sad, people have to bend over-backwards to make excsuses for this hypocritical policy. The companies know exactly how to different their revenues sources, thank you. And even if they don't, the "holy" sharia states should demand it in order not to be contaminated by alcohol money

You be correct!

naijaking1:

^^^^
Sad, people have to bend over-backwards to make excsuses for this hypocritical policy. The companies know exactly how to different their revenues sources, thank you. And even if they don't, the "holy" sharia states should demand it in order not to be contaminated by alcohol money

How come Western countries dont hesitate to take money from such Islamic Sheiks?

Maybe England should have rejected all money from those Sheiks who invested in the country

dayokanu:

How come Western countries dont hesitate to take money from such Islamic Sheiks?

Maybe England should have rejected all money from those Sheiks who invested in the country

I don't get your point. Western countries don't follow any religous laws that say some sorts of money are 'haram.'

Why should England reject money when their beliefs don't require them to?

And conversely, why is Kano State eating money that comes from beer sales? Is that not forbidden under their Sharia law?

Economies that have Xtianity as a State religion dont also reject moneies coming in from Islamic Sources.

Religion dont discriminate against the sources of the money.

You can call it hypocrisy from both sides of the divide

Well, first of all, I don't think any Western country has Christianity as the law of the land.

But even if they did, Christianity doesn't require you to reject beer money. So even a hypothetical Christian state/country that received beer money would NOT be hypocritical, since no religious law of theirs forbids their actions.

Otoh, the 12 northern states which follow Sharia law DO have laws forbidding them from engaging in certain types of activities, do they not? If so, then they are hypocrites.

Do you not see the point here, DK?

There is no "hypocrisy from both sides of the divide", since (A) one side of the divide isn't even Christian (B) even for Christians their law doesn't forbid such.

The 12 Sharia states (Niger, Kano, Katsina, Sokoto, Jigawa, etc) are hypocrites.

Someone should in fact take them to court to force them to follow their laws fully.

Even Jesus turned water into wine. I am thankful that the Bible does not forbid liquor.

dayokanu:

How come Western countries dont hesitate to take money from such Islamic Sheiks?

Maybe England should have rejected all money from those Sheiks who invested in the country

Are you never tired of citing wrong examples? Or you just don't get it

@ Dapo,

I found a wikipedia link which states some countries that have state religions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion#Present_state_religions

dayokanu:

@ Dapo,

I found a wikipedia link which states some countries that have state religions

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_religion#Present_state_religions

I think most of those countries, what they mean by "state religion" is that there is some official state-sponsored church. Or some acknowledgement of a Christian faith in the constitution.

But this doesn't mean:

1) You MUST be a member of this state church
2) Other churches/religions are not permitted
3) The Bible (new and/or old testament) is the law of the land.

I doubt that there exists a country on the face of the earth that follows the Bible as the law of its land.

But anyway, that isn't really relevant, since as stated before, beer money is not "haram" under Christianity like it is under Islam.

ekt_bear:

I think most of those countries, what they mean by "state religion" is that there is some official state-sponsored church. Or some acknowledgement of a Christian faith in the constitution.

But this doesn't mean:

1) You MUST be a member of this state church
2) Other churches/religions are not permitted
3) The Bible (new and/or old testament) is the law of the land.

I doubt that there exists a country on the face of the earth that follows the Bible as the law of its land.

But anyway, that isn't really relevant, since as stated before, beer money is not "haram" under Christianity like it is under Islam.

I dont think Islamic countries also make it a MUST for you to be a member of the state religion, though it is strongly advised

I think other religions are also allowed except in extreme cases Like Taliban Afghanistan e.g Tariq Azeez the former iraqi Foreign minister was a Xtian

In most South American countries I dont think there are a significant Moslem Population also

dayokanu:

Economies that have Xtianity as a State religion dont also reject moneies coming in from Islamic Sources.

Religion dont discriminate against the sources of the money.

You can call it hypocrisy from both sides of the divide

Mr Man, what exactly are you trying to say cos i really dont understand

supported. They shouldn't benefit from such taxes.

There is nothing like sharia when it comes to alcohol, if u live in the north u will realise that they consume alcohol more than the rest of the country, find out from the breweries which zone they make more sales, then u will know what am talking about
it is only pretence to the public not sharia.

The same thing the sharia states are doing is what the christian pastors do. They say "thou shall not steal" but when you steal and bring tithes and offerings,they collect.No questions asked.lol


Hypocrisy seems to be a well established culture in our country.

I am sure Ashiwaju Tinubu with his increased horde of ACN legislators at the federal and state levels in coordination with APGA people should be able to strategise on how to ensure that this hypocrisy is no longer allowed.
This is the least we can look forward to from our master strategist SUPERman.
Otherwise the talk, talk about true federalism that he has been making noise about will be just that- NOISE

seguno2:

I am sure Ashiwaju Tinubu with his increased horde of ACN legislators at the federal and state levels in coordination with APGA people should be able to strategise on how to ensure that this hypocrisy is no longer allowed.
This is the least we can look forward to from our master strategist SUPERman.
Otherwise the talk, talk about true federalism that he has been making noise about will be just that- NOISE

Asiwaju Tinubu is also to blame for giving money from Brewries to Shariah State?

ROFLMAO

Even God said it in the bible that FEAR NORTH, lol

The poster has a very valid point!
This reminds me of the CBN governor shouting about Islamic Banking (zero interest banking) at this moment intead of facing more challenging and fruitful things, while as we speak the banks are commiting usury under his watch by accepting deposits at 2% or less and lending at up to 24% in an economy with double digit inflation. I am yet to know the country operating with such wide margin, and a blind eye is turned to this trend by the regulatory authorities, perhaps to enable the banks to make profits when the CBN appointed managements could not deliver.
Little wonder a lot of the banks are now doing "kalukalu" for customers to win "prizes" for depositing their hard earned money which will become seriously eroded in value by the time the come to collect it thanks to inflation!

Am so happy that this issue was finally raised on nairaland. i remember sometimes ago in my office during some intellectual talk, my boss mentioned it that all the VAT that were paid (for instance the Lagos state) were remitted to the general purse of the FGN and a non- contributing state (Like Zamfara ) will be given from such allocation, i think there is  a great injustice in the Federal system of Nigeria Government or what would u say of all the tax generated by lagos state only fo it to be  shared by  one redundant 'shari[i]a [/i] ing' lovinf state. turlly there is no true federalism in this country, how i had wished that, how i had wish.

the Revenue Allocation Committe,FIRS,Min of Finance should create a template to map the revenue from each source and share accordingly,states running sharia should not enjoy revenue from haram source. also, since pepper,tomatoes,onions,cows,goats,rams,beans etc from the North are sold in the South directly by the producers and the cash collected from us,likewise stated producing petroluem products in the south should sell directly to them and collect the cash directly, only proceeds from oil exports should be shared by all. Since CBN is introducing Islamic Banking, there is urgent need to introduce Haram Accounting for Revenue to determine which states get what. Kolanut,Tobacco,bittercola is common to all, Pork meat is restricted to the South/Middlebelt,

It is this issue of true federalism that the guys in the legislature should be ironing out and not talking of jumbo take home package! True Federalism that the thing, so everyone will be contributing for national good. Not this set-up where folks contributing the least get the most and not being grateful, are so violent to attack, kill and maim at the drop of a hat!

Message for southern muslims:
To the northern muslims, you are all infidels. That is why try hard as you can (Adegbite and Co.) you can never be head of islam in Nigeria
You see your moon differently, they see theirs differently
In the last election, Buhari, a northern muslim, refused to yield to the requests of Tinubu, a southern muslim: all because they feel superior to you.
Yet, you dey fall mugu for their antics

I was in Kano in 2001 when I visited a friend serving there
Suddenly riot broke out
Yoruba muslims, Yoruba christians, Igbos and other southern and northern christians were killed
They say you live peaceably with christians in your midst, hence you are not good muslims
They say you southern muslims drink beer and patronize asha-wos, like christians do, so you are for those reasons, not true muslims.
But please take a trip to a place called Trailer Park along the Port Harcourt-Onne Highway in River State. They come from the North to load fertilizers from NAFCON and petroleum products from the nearby NNPC. There you will see these northern muslims in hundreds who empty beer bottles into their washing kettles used for ablution and drink from it, in deceit of the unwary. You find them sleeping with southern asha-wos on the back of their trailers at night. Ask them, they tell you ''this is southern nigeria, sharia will not catch us here''. They then go back north and pretend all is well and continue with their holier-than-thou attitude.
Did Abacha not die atop Indian asha-wos, as we hear? Yet, to a northern muslim, Abacha is more important than even the holiest of southern muslims.

I pity all these southern muslims who do not want to see beyond their noses.
Sharia Bank? Hm!! They go throw bomb inside the banking hall. Guess who the most bankers in Nigeria are, and thus, who the potential victims would be
They go use your savings buy bomb wey dey go use kill you.
The emphasis on islamic banking is a red flag that should not be ignored
We have had Habib Bank etc; no one cared, because the name does not suggest anything of security interest
From the grapevine, one of the conditions given by the Mullahs in the Middle East to pump in cash is that the name must be ISLAMIC BANK to stamp in the IOC angle to it.

Even the deceit by Sanusi in mentioning that an Igbo man is a shareholder of his sharia bank is lost on so many.
Ask him why he specifically singled out that Igbo man, among 10-15 other shareholders.

Hold your ears and listen up; Sharia is on its way to Ibadan. A word is enough for the wise.