Outside of state policing, what’s next. People shouting for federalism federalism, what else is needed if state policing is adopted by NASS? I would say federalism would be fully accomplished by then.

At that point people need to face their own governors to do the needful for their own regions.

Other items moved to concurrent list:
- Railways moved to concurrent list.
- Airports moved to concurrent list.

Not yet other things still needed

jyz200:
Not yet other things still needed

Like what (outside of state police)? Please give specifics. Don’t let federalism be a buzzword with no meaning.

MrMaestro:

Like what? Please give specifics. Don’t let federalism be a buzzword with no meaning.

There’s what we called devolution of power

jyz200:

There’s what we called devolution of power

you replaced one word with another phrase.

Federalism is devolution of power. Next it’s Devolution of power is “State Autonomy”. Then it’s State Autonomy is “Regionalism”.

What does devolution of power give states that they cannot do currently? Outside of state policing?

MrMaestro:
you replaced one word with another phrase. What does devolution of power give states that they cannot do currently? Outside of state policing?

A lot some things need to be removed from the exclusive list to the concurrent list

jyz200:

A lot some things need to be removed from the exclusive list to the concurrent list

ok What specific things do you think needs to be moved from exclusive list to concurrent list?

True federalism is LAYE which simply means Live As You Earn. Then contributes whatever percentage the federating units agreed on to the center.

Resources control.States should contribute to the federal.That is true federalism

Nwaide01:
True federalism is LAYE which simply means Live As You Earn. Then contributes whatever percentage the federating units agreed on to the center.

With the current VAT bill passing to go into effect, what exactly is the difference? As it currently stands, federal govt only gets percentage of those taxes, and NOT VAT. How is this new current situation with the VAT passing any different from LAYE? Specifics please.

MrMaestro:
ok What specific things do you think needs to be moved from exclusive list to concurrent list?

A lot
I told you

Nwaide01:
True federalism is LAYE which simply means Live As You Earn. Then contributes whatever percentage the federating units agreed on to the center.

Don’t mind the OP! He’s being clever by half and must think he’s dealing with kids!

I’ve noticed these people have been all over the media since yesterday, waxing lyrical about how…with this half-hearted constitution amendment, that Nigeria is getting ‘restructuring’! When in actual fact they’re just leaving the substance and chasing shadows!

For free, i can tell all reading this that the seismic shift in the political-economy and structure of the polity that will finally free up the regions/ethnicities to determine the right cause to their own destiny, develop at their own pace, and use their own resources (human and natural)….all efforts to achieve this will be truncated by the actions of the core north, and the inactions of the lily-livered, greedy and self-seeking political actors from the south and middle-belt!

These smartass commentators are now trying to argue that since Nigeria is undergoing the ‘restructuring’ agitators were asking for, there’s no more any need for Biafra, Oduduwa, and Ijaw/Niger-Delta republics!

jyz200:

A lot
I told you

Definitely not. Procurement of ammunition and explosives, creation of states, creation of currency, nuclear energy, are all things that should continue to be handled by the federal government. We aren’t running a banana republic. Why on earth should states create their own currency? Or nuclear energy research (which eventually leads to nuclear bombs), or buy weapons from russia/ Pakistan on their own without the federal government’s approval? That’s mad.

IGBOSON1:


Don’t mind the OP! He’s being clever by half and must think he’s dealing with kids!

I’ve noticed these people have been all over the media since yesterday, waxing lyrical about how…with this half-hearted constitution amendment, that Nigeria is getting ‘restructuring’! When in actual fact they’re just leaving the substance and chasing shadows!

For free, i can tell all reading this that the seismic shift in the political-economy and structure of the polity that will finally free up the regions/ethnicities to determine the right cause to their own destiny, develop at their own pace, and use their own resources (human and natural)….all efforts to achieve this will be truncated by the actions of the core north, and the inactions of the lily-livered, greedy and self-seeking political actors from the south and middle-belt!

These smartass commentators are now trying to argue that since Nigeria is undergoing the ‘restructuring’ agitators were asking for, there’s no more any need for Biafra, Oduduwa, and Ijaw/Niger-Delta republics!

What exactly differentiates LAYE from the current revenue allocation setup?

MrMaestro:
Outside of state policing, what’s next. People shouting for federalism federalism, what else is needed if state policing is adopted by NASS? I would say federalism would be fully accomplished by then.

At that point people need to face their own governors to do the needful for their own regions.

Resource control sir

mrvitalis:

Resource control sir

Norway exports oil. And they don’t allow states to collect the revenue for the endeavor. They put aside a small percentage of that revenue for oil into their sovereign wealth fund, and after decades of investments of that fund, social services for the entire country can be financed for the next 100 years. 4-Day work week, free healthcare, free education. Etc. Tell me, is the lack of resource allocation preventing those states in Norway from having roads? Factories? Clean water? Electricity? High living standard all around?


My point is, we will continue to make excuses for the next thousand years and will go NO WHERE. It’s time to hold leaders accountable and vote for people who deliver, and cast out those that don’t. Or accept mediocrity and get left behind. The choice is yours. I’m just glad other regions don’t have to be held back as much any longer.

MrMaestro:

Norway exports oil. And they don’t allow states to collect the revenue for the endeavor. They put aside a small percentage of that revenue for oil into their sovereign wealth fund, and after decades of investments of that fund, social services for the entire country can be financed for the next 100 years. 4-Day work week, free healthcare, free education. Etc. Tell me, is the lack of resource allocation preventing those states in Norway from having roads? Factories? Clean water? Electricity? High living standard all around?


My point is, we will continue to make excuses for the next thousand years and will go NO WHERE. It’s time to hold leaders accountable and vote for people who deliver, and cast out those that don’t. Or accept mediocrity and get left behind. The choice is yours. I’m just glad other regions don’t have to be held back as much any longer.

Norway is a nation ...Nigeria is a mere country with many nations

Stop comparing a country to a nation they are not the same

mrvitalis:

Norway is a nation ...Nigeria is a mere country with many nations

Stop comparing a country to a nation they are not the same

Yet another excuse. It’s exactly the same. What about the United Kingdom? Is that not a country with many nations? Comprised of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland. Should I compare Nigeria to UK instead? That might be worse.


Black people need to STOP MAKING EXCUSES!

MrMaestro:
Yet another excuse. It’s exactly the same. What about the United Kingdom? Is that not a country with many nations? Comprised of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland. Should I compare Nigeria to UK instead? That might be worse.


Blank people need to STOP MAKING EXCUSES!

Reason why everyone wants to leave UK ...even tho UK gave each region autonomy

Listen to the people that own the land why is it hard for your likes to understand


People want to control their land and security why is it difficult ?
Nigerian structure has never worked anywhere in the world with similar characteristics ..every country that's not a nation use weak center strong regions every single one

Italy , Germany , Russia ,every single on

Why are you bent on controlling others ?

Restructure is transpiring step by step........

God Bless Nigeria.

mrvitalis:

Reason why everyone wants to leave UK ...even tho UK gave each region autonomy

Listen to the people that own the land why is it hard for your likes to understand


People want to control their land and security why is it difficult ?
Nigerian structure has never worked anywhere in the world with similar characteristics ..every country that's not a nation use weak center strong regions every single one

Italy , Germany , Russia ,every single on

Why are you bent on controlling others ?

I’ve already conceded state policing should be next up on the docket. Outside of that states already have control over their regions. They now have control over building railroads, they have control over building and modernizing airports. They have control over building roads, collecting state taxes, procuring investors, building train lines, building bus systems. Of all of these things they have control over, which of the states you are talking about have completed half of these things? Or is another excuse incoming?

This NASS is doing what Saraki lead NASS and all PDP lead NASS could not do. Now, we know who are working and who were just doing propaganda.

Anyway, there is still many more to do.

I thank God for these bill passings by NASS. It will outright expose LAZY brain dead governors and their sympathizers who love defending mediocrity.

MrMaestro:

I’ve already conceded state policing should be next up on the docket. Outside of that states already have control over their regions. They now have control over building railroads, they have control over building and modernizing airports. They have control over building roads, collecting state taxes, procuring investors, building train lines, building bus systems. Of all of these things they have control over, which of the states you are talking about have completed half of these things? Or is another excuse incoming?

What state are you talking about ? The states that are mere mini Nigeria ? ...we should have states and regions that are relative to our ethnic nations

How can u have tiv in tarraba and Benue ...tiv should be a state ,idoma should be a state if an ethic group is too small then they look for people similar form an agreement then form a state

Egebema in imo and rivers
ASA in abia and rivers
Ndoki in abia and rivers

Those are fundamental to the progress of Nigeria first of all
That's what people mean by restructuring

Let tiv control give resource and police tiv

What's Benue ?

What's tarraba ...

MrMaestro:

What exactly differentiates LAYE from the current revenue allocation setup?

The people you are arguing with cannot think. They just shout Restructuring because they heard their parents shouting it.

mrvitalis:

What state are you talking about ? The states that are mere mini Nigeria ? ...we should have states and regions that are relative to our ethnic nations

How can u have tiv in tarraba and Benue ...tiv should be a state ,idoma should be a state if an ethic group is too small then they look for people similar form an agreement then form a state

Egebema in imo and rivers
ASA in abia and rivers
Ndoki in abia and rivers

Those are fundamental to the progress of Nigeria first of all
That's what people mean by restructuring

Let tiv control give resource and police tiv

What's Benue ?

What's tarraba ...

So that we will have 1,000 states in Nigeria

In Ogun state alone, we have Ijebus, Egbas, Aworis, Owus, Eguns, Oyos, e.t.c. yet you will not hear each of the sub-ethnics saying they want a state of their own.

Go and learn how to live in peace with your neighbours.

naija4life247:


So that we will have 1,000 states in Nigeria

In Ogun state alone, we have Ijebus, Egbas, Aworis, Owus, Eguns, Oyos, e.t.c. yet you will not hear each of the sub-ethnics saying they want a state of their own.

Go and learn how to live in peace with your neighbours.

That's the business if egbas have the means to be a state fine why not

People like u made Europe fight for 100s of years till the realized ethnic nations are the way to go

What's wrong with having 1000 states if it brings peace , healthy competition and development ?

State policing should only come to Nigeria when we have an excellent justice system. When an ordinary Nigerian can sue the police and win. If not state policing will cause more harm than good Nigeria.

Well I would want it to be possible that not just state should be involved in the building of infrastructures and electricity. It should be possible for rich private individuals to construct roads, railways and gencos if they have the money to do so. The government should only supervise and set the standards of these works.

mrvitalis:

That's the business if egbas have the means to be a state fine why not

People like u made Europe fight for 100s of years till the realized ethnic nations are the way to go

What's wrong with having 1000 states if it brings peace , healthy competition and development ?

That’s not even the point! The fella you’re responding to knew exactly what you meant, but tried to twist it to something else!

States or regional groupings should be formed based on homogeneity, esp’ for the three major ethnic groups! Of course there’d be situations where there are a number of smaller ethnic groups contiguous with one another, and in this case state/regional setups should be done by willing partners who have similar values and worldview! For instance, i doubt anyone would argue against Southern Kaduna having their own state!

MrMaestro:
I thank God for these bill passings by NASS. It will outright expose LAZY brain dead governors and their sympathizers who love defending mediocrity.

It will also start exposing LAZY brain dead Local Government Chairman.

The days of caretaker committee is far gone.

My question on this Local Government issue now is that, will INEC start conducting Local Government election? Since the Local Government is no more under the state Government.

IGBOSON1:


That’s not even the point! The fella you’re responding to knew exactly what you meant, but tried to twist it to something else!

States or regional groupings should be formed based on homogeneity, esp’ for the three major ethnic groups! Of course there’d be situations where there are a number of smaller ethnic groups contiguous with one another, and in this case state/regional setups should be done by willing partners who have similar values and worldview! For instance, i doubt anyone would argue against Southern Kaduna having their own state!

Bless you brother ...they know exactly the truth but nah would never accept it because they want to dominate others

mrvitalis:

Bless you brother ...they know exactly the truth but nah would never accept it because they want to dominate others

I agree more needs to be done concerning achieving the kind of federalism you talk about.

But I don't think it can be achieve at once, is a step by step process.