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Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by Ojiofor: 3:36pm On Mar 11, 2022
seunny4lif:

The territories have changed hands many times, I think.

Now, it’s operation take back my land.
Mexico can take back CA, TX and FL
Hawaii can take back their land from USA
Russia can take back Kyiv since its part of Russia empire
Turkey must leave N.Cyrus
Russia can return Kaliningrad to Germany
Romania can take back Modolva

Nations lost territories during wars and its hard to get it back.
Its like Greece wanting to get back Istanbul/Constantinople from Tıurkey.
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by seunny4lif(m): 3:37pm On Mar 11, 2022
If Russia is decimated then be sure there will be no USA or Germany or France.

tempest01:


Lands are conquered during wars and a lot of lands are disputed.

It's all optics. Japan cannot take the land from Russia. But if it happens that NATO gets involved in the fight and Russia is decimated, be rest assured that Japan will make a move.

All these are just preparing the ground work and making claims in case conditions are right to make the move.

Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by seunny4lif(m): 3:37pm On Mar 11, 2022
Ojiofor:


Nations lost territories during wars and its hard to get it back.
Its like Greece wanting to get back Istanbul/Constantinople from Tıurkey.
Reason I said only way is war
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by Ojiofor: 3:41pm On Mar 11, 2022
seunny4lif:

Reason I said only way is war

You are right.
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by WhatCanIsay(m): 3:48pm On Mar 11, 2022
Macelliot:


How Japan still became a strong U.S ally after Hirosima and Nagasaki's bombing still battles me..

U.S really dealt with Japan then...

Sincerely speaking, U.S cured Japan madness then.

Same way Russia is doing now. U.S will cured their madness.

But, truth be told. If there is United States of America in this world, Every country will just be bombing each other every day...

That's why they will be no country like America. America dismantled Japan, and also in the same breath helped to build her up in all ramifications; industrially, economically, infrastructural and otherwise. The same was done to Western Germany. Compare Western Germany to Eastern Germany that Russia held then.

America has done a lot of evil, but no living nation has done more good than them. Even that Russia survived Germany was slightly thanks to American military support. It's funny to see people hating them because maybe it's the "cool" thing for them to do.

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Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by WhatCanIsay(m): 3:49pm On Mar 11, 2022
Blackfire:
All this small small countries sef ... Nigeria will flog you all

Japan has once trashed Russia, has trampled on China. When did they become small?
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by isokomarine: 4:01pm On Mar 11, 2022
BKayy:
So this is the card that the West want to play. They want to introduce the Antidote of Russia. The only country that knows how to beat Russia blue-black-green.

For those that don't know much about history, Japan is the only country that have a divine gift of beating Russia and Britain wherever they see them. At the Zenithh of Russian empire power, this small island managed to beat senseless tears out of Russia.

But they (West) forget one thing, in recent history the West have committed an unforgiven atrocity to the good people of Japan. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bomb. Japan can't do their bidding with full commitment.

So nothing spoil. Ride on Russia.
your comment just that you don't have any military knowledge
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by emmyclassic(m): 4:02pm On Mar 11, 2022
WhatCanIsay:


Japan has once trashed Russia, has trampled on China. When did they become small?
Don’t mind most people who thinks strength is by landmass or size
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by sunboy(m): 4:56pm On Mar 11, 2022
tamdun:

I know US and Japan are allie but on question keeps coming up in my mind, "how will Japan get the hroshima and nagaski bombing off their minds"?

Japan started the war… a surprise attack on American forces in Pearl Habour. The US did what it had to do to win that war quick. They would blame their leaders who started the war not the US that responded.

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Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by tempest01(m): 5:13pm On Mar 11, 2022
seunny4lif:
If Russia is decimated then be sure there will be no USA or Germany or France.


Nuclear bomb is not something you just use. Also know that there are missiles that can shoot down inter continental missiles
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by seunny4lif(m): 5:38pm On Mar 11, 2022
tempest01:


Nuclear bomb is not something you just use. Also know that there are missiles that can shoot down inter continental missiles
Any war that involves Russia and NATO is going to be nuclear war nothing else
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by tamdun: 5:39pm On Mar 11, 2022
sunboy:


Japan started the war… a surprise attack on American forces in Pearl Habour. The US did what it had to do to win that war quick. They would blame their leaders who started the war not the US that responded.
We know Japan started the war but they lost and already retreating then America drop atomic bomb on them, the question here is why did they drop atomic bomb on a conquered Japan?
According to Nelson Mandela,he said it was a message from the US to Soviet union, to show how powerful they are...
Many people may no believe this but some Japanese deep down are yet to forget that incident

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Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by BKayy: 5:52pm On Mar 11, 2022
isokomarine:
your comment just that you don't have any military knowledge
Proof? If you have any
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by SUPERPACK: 7:12pm On Mar 11, 2022
tempest01:


Nuclear bomb is not something you just use. Also know that there are missiles that can shoot down inter continental missiles
shooting down a nuclear bomb is adding fuel to fire. Also why will any sensible person attempt to shoot down a hydrogen bomb warhead, no be express be that so.
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by MangekyoAlt: 7:30pm On Mar 11, 2022
BKayy:
So this is the card that the West want to play. They want to introduce the Antidote of Russia. The only country that knows how to beat Russia blue-black-green.

For those that don't know much about history, Japan is the only country that have a divine gift of beating Russia and Britain wherever they see them. At the Zenithh of Russian empire power, this small island managed to beat senseless tears out of Russia.

Stop posting trash on this forum, you monkey.
I just don't know how there are so many illterates who think they know shit on this forum undecided. Where are you guys popping out from? SHUT THE FŰCK UP! You don't know shit.
You're claiming Japan knows how to defeat Russia. Is it because of one war they won against Russia? They've won once against Russia while Russia beat them twice before the WW2 and during the end of WW2, forcing their asses to surrender to the USA.
Did you know how the Japanese generals almost shit in their pants when the soviets declared war on them in 1945? Yh, the answer is no. So because of a single win against the russians, they're now the country that beats Russia "black and blue". Sure, they beat Russia once. But we all know how russia handed their asses to them when they tried to grab lands from Russia before the WW2. Infact, all the troops that Japanese sent to the USSR were all annihilated! Read here and educate your thick skull

The russians gave the Japanese a very hot defeat that they were forced to sign a ceasefire and agreement with the Russians.
This defeat was the main reason why they didn't simultaneously attack the soviets with the Germans. They hoped the russians would honor their ceasire but after the russians finishes dealing with the Germans, they declared war on Japan. Attacked them and the Japanese immediately surrendered to the USA because they knew the russians would Anne's all their lands they manage to conquer. you can read about the declaration of war here


But they (West) forget one thing, in recent history the West have committed an unforgiven atrocity to the good people of Japan. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bomb. Japan can't do their bidding with full commitment.

So nothing spoil. Ride on Russia.
Ogbeni sharap! You just dey yarn dust since!
Japan remains the only country that has been nuked in history. They have that experience. They will NEVER attack another nuclear country talkless the most powerful nuclear country in the world. You do realize that Russia does have the capability ATM to turn Japan into a nuclear wasteland? If you don't realize that, then the Japanese definitely do. Imagine thinking a country that doesn't have Nukes or even ICBM'S that small north Korea have in their arsenal would attack Russia that has missiles that could reach their mainland in minutes. How dumb do you think the Japanese are?
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by Svlla: 7:31pm On Mar 11, 2022
Japan beat almost everybody in WW2 even the USA had difficulty and if not for USA industrial complex and its ability to quickly replace bombers and Pilot Japan would have whooped their ass too

The Asia Pacific wars theater was Japan's domain, they beat everybody their not only Russia

BTW they started beating Russia long before the ww1......heard of the devastating siege of Port Authur? That's was even before the world War 1 and Bolshevik revolution and Russia was not at its strongest this period.....too many internal strive

Russia had the last laugh at the end of WWII

BKayy:

If USA can beat Russia, they would have done it decades ago.
The only reason USA forces Japan into her sphere of influence is for scenarios like this.

USA is a very tricky modafuka. They knew what they where doing from the start. Soviet Union was just myopic. They shouldn't have allowed USA arm twist Japan into their sphere of influence. They should have forgotten that uninhabitable volcanic Island but pride didn't allow them.

Japan knows how to beat Russia. It is like their birth right. Same as Britain. Do you remember what they did to Britain in Australia during WW2? A beating so ruthless that it was termed "humiliating defeat". They disgraced Britain at the Asian theatre.

Japan involvement in this conflict is just USA telling Russia "look, we have your antidote at our side" but God pass them. Japan will be reminded who their real enemy is. Who destroyed their reputation in 1945.
Re: Japan Says Kuril Islands 'primordially Japanese, Russia's Occupation Is Illegal by MangekyoAlt: 7:49pm On Mar 11, 2022
Svlla:
Japan beat almost everybody in WW2 even the USA had difficulty and if not for USA industrial complex and its ability to quickly replace bombers and Pilot Japan would have whooped their ass too

The Asia Pacific wars theater was Japan's domain, they beat everybody their not only Russia

BTW they started beating Russia long before the ww1......heard of the devastating siege of Port Authur? That's was even before the world War 1 and Bolshevik revolution and Russia was not at its strongest this period.....too many internal strive

Russia had the last laugh at the end of WWII

The Japanese very much hoped the Soviet union woundnt attack them in WW2.
Meanwhile, Churchill and Roosevelt told Stalin that they needed his help to deal with Japan since the Japanese didn't want to surrender to them. Stalin then told them that he would help them deal with Japan appropriately after he's done with Hitler and Germany. And that once he finished with them, withing 90 days, which is 3 months, he would attack Japan. Stalin kept to his words. After he finished with Germany, he attacked Japan with more than 1 million troops. Meanwhile, the Japanese were still willing to keep fighting even after they had been nuked twice by the USA.
But once Stalin attacked them. Their generals almost shit in their pants. Fear gripped them and immediately ran to the USA to surrender because they knew the russians would annex all their lands that they manage to get their hands on.
Read here. So many people don't even know of this fact. The Japanese really feared the USSR

https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/education/008/expertclips/010#:~:text=Nuclear%20weapons%20shocked%20Japan%20into,defeated%20by%20a%20miracle%20weapon.


https://www.indepthnews.net/index.php/opinion/3758-soviet-advance-not-u-s-atomic-bombings-forced-japan-to-surrender

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