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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by sangresan(m): 8:03am On Mar 12, 2022
And we have a bunch of mumus in Africa who will always accept whatever they're told. Some mofos even believe that Western countries can conquer Russia on an all-out war. For your info, Russia hasn't committed 1/10 of her military assets into this peacekeeping operation. Why is the West afraid of Russia using thermobaric weapons in Ukraine? Sebi the hypocrites used them in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Have you seen Russia carpet bombing Ukraine? NO.

They're simply trying to protect the civilians.

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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Techguy96(m): 8:08am On Mar 12, 2022
blaise26abj:

How long did it take US to defeat Sadam ? Could they have truly defeated Japan without the atomic bombs ? They ran out of Vietnam and Afghanistan . Russia WILL defeating Ukraine . There is no doubt about it no matter how long it takes . The invasion would have been swifter if the commanders had credible intelligence though. Any leader would be furious with his intelligence agency .
I don’t support the invasion . But in my opinion the west , nato and ultimately Ukraine provoked Russia
It was Russia who provoked Ukraine.

So Ukraine applied to join NATO in 2008 but nothing much was done, infact there was no talk of Ukraine joining NATO till Russia decided to invade crimea in 2014.

If Russian hadn't invaded crimea the talk of Ukraine joining NATO would have even come up.

So it was Russia that triggered everything again.

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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by blaise26abj(m): 8:09am On Mar 12, 2022
d142475:
Without nuclear weapons, Russia won’t stand a chance against NATO or even America.

Without Nuclear weapons , USA cannot stand a chance against a determined enemy . USA has sustained defeats despite being involved in some major conflicts in the 21st century . They would rather arm rebels than get directly involved so as to minimize these losses .
In Syria , the USA backed Kurds while Russia backed Syria and the US had to withdrawal .
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by techWriter3: 8:11am On Mar 12, 2022
Mainstream press doin their Western publicity way as usual
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by sangresan(m): 8:11am On Mar 12, 2022
Techguy96:

It was Russia who provoked Ukraine.

So Ukraine applied to join NATO in 2008 but nothing much was done, infact there was no talk of Ukraine joining NATO till Russia decided to invade crimea in 2014.

If Russian hadn't invaded crimea the talk of Ukraine joining NATO would have even come up.

So it was Russia that triggered everything again.

Blah blah blah. Go and watch the video of Senator Biden in 1997 warning the West not to provoke Russia with Ukraine.
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Powersurge: 8:11am On Mar 12, 2022
ChangetheChange:

where are the Putin Nairaland zombies, they should call these a propaganda again, it is clear that the hungry and malnourished Russian troops alongside their outdated Soviet union warplanes and outdated Soviet union weapons are being decimated heavily in Ukraine.
Putin has lost it, the invasion is not going according to plan, he has become paranoid, pissed off, insane and isolated.
It's just a matter of weeks before one of Putin's own inner circle assassinate him


D fear of internal regime change by Putin is driving him to be more isolated. Is making him to make isolated and unilateral decisions devoid of expert opinions and intelligence, which in most cases fall flat on his face. He's becoming paranoia and unstable, which is dangerous for a leader with massive lethal weapons. The Oligarchs are losing their money. Nobody wants to lose his money. And that is dangerous for Putin.

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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by masix11(m): 8:12am On Mar 12, 2022
Shoodboi:
I don't understand when tabloids like Sun, Dailymail, and Metro became verifiable news sources. And we've seen this happen a lot over the past few days, especially regarding this war.

Mainstream media are clearly biased, but they still put a bit more effort into posting verifiable news or at least well-crafted lies that take some work to debunk, and not these baseless sensational headlines from tabloids.

Please Nairaland should do better.

Copy from BBC / Guardian for the US/EU version of the story.

And copy from RT for the Russian version and CGTN (of China) to balance things up.

Read at least one from either side and then read along the lines to see the truth.

CC: Lalasticlala Seun
That is exactly what I do. After watching one side I will switch to know what the other party is saying. I can't be deceived by listening to one side of a story

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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by pafo(m): 8:13am On Mar 12, 2022
OhBritannia:
Putin will soon be disgraced, no leader with such character has ever lived through it.

History will repeat itself.
Unfortunately for Putin, he never learns from history.
He was fighting a just cause but he went overboard and now his people are now against him. No man fights against his own family.
Imaging a situation where about 99% of the people you rule are against you.

All he had to do was set up a very very strong military attack base in Crimean
That would have sent a strong message to NATO and Ukraine would have backed out.

Sometimes war is prevented when you use logic.

Oshey eyan Sun Tzu!
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by sangresan(m): 8:13am On Mar 12, 2022
Techguy96:

It was Russia who provoked Ukraine.

So Ukraine applied to join NATO in 2008 but nothing much was done, infact there was no talk of Ukraine joining NATO till Russia decided to invade crimea in 2014.

If Russian hadn't invaded crimea the talk of Ukraine joining NATO would have even come up.

So it was Russia that triggered everything again.

For many of you, your history of the world is limited to what you pick up on Whatsapp messages.
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Techguy96(m): 8:13am On Mar 12, 2022
sangresan:


Blah blah blah. Go and watch the video of Senator Biden in 1997 warning the West not to provoke Russia with Ukraine.
What does this have to do with 2022
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Techguy96(m): 8:15am On Mar 12, 2022
sangresan:


For many of you, your history of the world is limited to what you pick up on Whatsapp messages.
What does this have to do with history?

Since 2008 has Ukraine made any new move to join NATO?
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Toktee(m): 8:16am On Mar 12, 2022
bluefilm:
Mainstream media doing their Western propaganda thing as usual.
You watch too much pornography that is why you have no time to reseach but is not too late. grin

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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by NoFucksToGive: 8:20am On Mar 12, 2022
Mondayisaac:
Aro Mate! Putin Na Idiot
Seems your stupidity is still plenty ?
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by kingjizz: 8:21am On Mar 12, 2022
foryourmindlol:
Before reading this thread, some zombies will write "Western Propaganda". cheesy

Zombies like your parents
Lol
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Toktee(m): 8:22am On Mar 12, 2022
sangresan:


For many of you, your history of the world is limited to what you pick up on Whatsapp messages.
wht he said is nothing but the truth...russia signed àn accord guaranteed ukrain security but when putin wanted crimea for his black sea fleets that was no longer considered....that is not enough he went ahead to invade eastern ukrain using russian speaking terrorist.

After this and more ukrain felt alone hence the need to seek alliance.
If anyone tell you putin invade ukrain because the later want to join nato such a person is a liar.

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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by blaise26abj(m): 8:23am On Mar 12, 2022
Techguy96:

It was Russia who provoked Ukraine.

So Ukraine applied to join NATO in 2008 but nothing much was done, infact there was no talk of Ukraine joining NATO till Russia decided to invade crimea in 2014.

If Russian hadn't invaded crimea the talk of Ukraine joining NATO would have even come up.

So it was Russia that triggered everything again.
Nope . US triggered all this .Crimea was given to Ukraine by Russia in 1956 or so . It is mostly populated Russians . The West ousted the then president of Ukraine and installed this puppet leader ( note that trump’s impeachment was because of a call he had with this same president ) . Crimea wanted to leave and Russia helped to claiming them back . There was a referendum .
To add to the tensions , this same ukrainian president wants to join nato . NATO is a coalition with nuclear capabilities . By joining NATO , Ukraine will become a country with all of Russia’s enemies right at their border.
Let’s say US or Uk decides to attack Russia navy without provocation and Russia wants to fire missiles at UK , with ukraine as a NATO member, Russia will be attacked immediately and swiftly . No super power wants that . Same thing US did during the Cuba missile crisis
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Banhammy717: 8:25am On Mar 12, 2022
"Embezzlement of funds allocated for subversive and undercover work in Ukraine, as well as false information, is said to be the reason for the arrests".....

I taught this can never happen in Europe, so this corruption issue is everywhere
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Techguy96(m): 8:30am On Mar 12, 2022
blaise26abj:

Nope . US triggered all this .Crimea was given to Ukraine by Russia in 1956 or so . It is mostly populated Russians . The West ousted the then president of Ukraine and installed this puppet leader ( note that trump’s impeachment was because of a call he had with this same president ) . Crimea wanted to leave and Russia helped to claiming them back . There was a referendum .
To add to the tensions , this same ukrainian president wants to join nato . NATO is a coalition with nuclear capabilities . By joining NATO , Ukraine will become a country with all of Russia’s enemies right at their border.
Let’s say US or Uk decides to attack Russia navy without provocation and Russia wants to fire missiles at UK , with ukraine as a NATO member, Russia will be attacked immediately and swiftly . No super power wants that . Same thing US did during the Cuba missile crisis
I understand they wanted to join NATO but the bid to join NATO all started after the invasion of crimea.
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by creatorsverse(m): 8:31am On Mar 12, 2022
It took America 20 years to try to conquer Afghanistan yet they failed and u think Putin doesn't know Ukraine will resist strongly?? If u look at Putin advancement, he is on the winning side in just 3 weeks. Wait till it gets to one month or two month and watch what happens
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by slowice(m): 8:32am On Mar 12, 2022
The only thing Russia have succeeded in doing is show the west how weak and less strategic they really are.

Nothing matters anymore, see finish ve set in already.

Empty barrels with large cache of nuclear weapons.... That's Russia.

If dem use this kind hand war with US e go be massacre on their part... If not for war heads, nothing gum dem

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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by mvem(m): 8:32am On Mar 12, 2022
posty56:
nairaland Russia zombies will start to shout propaganda cheesy, bunch of clowns thinking shouting propaganda makes them sounds learned,in reality they're just letting their emotions cloud their sense,it is obvious Russia army is overhyped ,NATO is just avoiding nuclear bomb conflict if not they would have used this opportunity to being the fight at Russia's doorstep, Ukraine sef they Bleep up their guerrila warfare is weak if not Russia army would have smoked for very long time,they should learn from Vietnam and Taliban.
how did US fair in Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan ?
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by tiswell(m): 8:32am On Mar 12, 2022
posty56:
bro you know where Kremlin dey lol, Kremlin is in Russia not Ukraine .
allow him wallow in ignorance

Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by sterlingD(m): 8:36am On Mar 12, 2022
Make Putin no come respond Nuclearly
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Svoboda(m): 8:39am On Mar 12, 2022
Techguy96:

It was Russia who provoked Ukraine.

So Ukraine applied to join NATO in 2008 but nothing much was done, infact there was no talk of Ukraine joining NATO till Russia decided to invade crimea in 2014.

If Russian hadn't invaded crimea the talk of Ukraine joining NATO would have even come up.

So it was Russia that triggered everything again.


Pls, look at the preceding events before the liberation of Crimea. Before then, in that same year, there was a coup against a democratically elected pro Russian govt. That coup was hatched and organized by the US, and implemented by rabid neo nazi anti Russia elements from Western Ukraine. The less said, the better, but i would want to agree with those who declare this war as a war of survival for Russia.
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Airboom: 8:40am On Mar 12, 2022
Russia zombie spotted cheesy e pain am[/quote]
Na propaganda so recorded the news mad people
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by mauchiz: 8:42am On Mar 12, 2022
Is a lie, they told PUTIN what he wants to hear, moreover he has always wanted to take over Ukraine, he shouldnt blame anyone.
God will always frustrate his plans, 140 nations voted against the invasion in UN, so how does he want to win. Did he not know what Americans and its allies can do?
The devil wants to use Putin to cause ww3, but we are praying.
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by wizseller: 9:03am On Mar 12, 2022
His military and infrastructure are been destroyed..YES

Who says they wont be


But has Putin taken over Ukraine and installed his puppet governtment..NO

Can he do that..NO


Can Putin fight the west and win..NO


So take a chill pill


Even if everything in Ukraine is razed to the ground, go back there 5 years after this invasion, they will rebuild everything and better

Thats Europe for you


Caseless:
Americans that couldn't win in Vietnam, Iraq and defeat taliban in years can't even underrate anyone for not winning in matter of days.

The source is daily mail UK , what were you expecting them to write?

Even to a toddler, it's clear that it won't be an easy ride for Russia. Why won't Putin with all the intelligence know?

This is purely western propaganda to put Ukraine in more danger. We saw attack videos of Russian attacks. Bro, you people should stop goading Zelensky. His military is being destroyed and he thinks it's a comedy.
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Kelvin3476: 9:03am On Mar 12, 2022
Caseless:
Americans that couldn't win in Vietnam, Iraq and defeat taliban in years can't even underrate anyone for not winning in matter of days.

The source is daily mail UK , what were you expecting them to write?

Even to a toddler, it's clear that it won't be an easy ride for Russia. Why won't Putin with all the intelligence know?

This is purely western propaganda to put Ukraine in more danger. We saw attack videos of Russian attacks. Bro, you people should stop goading Zelensky. His military is being destroyed and he thinks it's a comedy.
WHAT TYPE OF INVASION AMERICA DO 4 VIETNAM AND SYRIA ? DID AMERICA SIGN WITH AFGHAN PEOPLE TO WIPE THEIR CITIZENS ? STOP CRYING BOY
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Ijaya123: 9:03am On Mar 12, 2022
SarkinYarki:
Silly western propaganda

Share with us the eastern version.
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Hoodnigga123: 9:08am On Mar 12, 2022
Russia military capacity is overrated

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Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Nobody: 9:08am On Mar 12, 2022
ArmaniUhuru:
You’re calling the news western media propaganda, and 2 weeks on your Lord Putin hasn’t been able to conquer Ukraine.



Your Lord Putin is overrated abeg! grin cheesy grin
Lol, after 20 years, your almighty Amelika could not subdue taliban with just AK 47 and knives and no air defenses, support or nations pouring in manpower and ammunitions. Is this not a fallacy. Calm down. Either way, like a WION analyst said, the social media heroism will die down after Ukraine is utterly destroyed and zelensky takes a more difficult deal than was offered before the war. Ukraine used to be the third largest nuclear power, it’s not as weak as made to look, and sorry to say, with all the western armory poured in to shore it up, I beg to say that it has performed poorly. Lastly, Daily mail UK? Seriously, that’s your source? Kindly use WION, it’s Indian and not politically aligned to either side of the divide, or balance up what you get from the west with what you get from the East. It’s common sense.
Re: Putin Places Sergey Beseda Under House Arrest by Kelvin3476: 9:11am On Mar 12, 2022
juman:
Fake news.

Russia is really been gentle with the military operation. The whole world can see that.
If not, it would have been over after few days.
hype man

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