NATO's decision to not close the sky over Ukraine is correct. A shooting war between Russia and NATO should be avoided as much as possible and the way the US has been evading that confrontation is simply the right thing to do.If you think it is cowardice, it is because you don't know and this post will brief you.
Let me set it out in a very brief way.
There are three types of wars:
1. Conventional war - which is fought according to the rules of war: Don't kill civilians and children, don't hit civilian infrastructure, don't shoot surrendering enemy soldiers and PoWs, etc.
2. Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way.
3. Nuclear war.
On a normal day, Russia will fall quickly of NATO engages it in a conventional or a total war and Putin has admitted that much in a speech recently. There is no contest in that. NATO's firepower is extensive and its generals are top level.
However, the mismatch will force Russia to quickly resort to 'final-solution' tactics while it can - it will launch its arsenal of nuclear weapons. Lets be quickly reminded that since the 1970s, both the West and Russia have thousands of nuclear tipped missiles already programmed to hit targets in all major cities on each other's soil. With just the press of a button, those missiles will fly out and head for their targets.
But there are difficulties. Both sides have watchmen that are not sleeping. Every inch of Russian territory is under a 24/7 scan for missile launch by the West, using flare and heat detection satellites. Russia has the same system.
The moment a rocket motor ignites (most missiles are powered by rocket motors. Cruise missiles use air-breathing jet engines - pretty much the same used by aeroplanes, but they could be ramjets or jets with afterburners. Cruise missiles are usually called precision guided weapons), they know in the West. These missile scouts will start to track the missile or missiles and note their number, velocity and heading. They have about 10 minutes to confirm and reconfirm that missiles are being launched against the West. In this case they will mostly be ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles). Well, despite the heavy name, they are actually simple orbital rockets that can get into orbit and then re-enter the earth at the appropriate location - above their targets. At this point, they will release their thermonuclear warheads or bombs (all modern nuclear bombs carry thermonuclear warheads, that is, warheads that uses a small hydrogen bomb to initiate a chain reaction in its main fission bomb of Plutonium or Uranium). These warheads are shaped like cones and they are about 1.2m in height with a base diameter of about 800mm. The real active ingredient, Uranium or Plutonium inside the conical device is not bigger than a football but they are packed with the horrendous power of creation itself, the power of the nucleus of an atom called the Strong Force.
Two things will then happen in line with strictly established procedures it call it Battle Order.
Once a missile attack is detected, the US will immediately move it's president, his family, Pentagon chiefs and a few citizens into a bunker that is about 2 kilometers below the ground and under a mountain. It is suspended upon springs so it can withstand tectonic forces from a nuclear blast on the surface. The bunker contains provisions for two years to sustain the occupants. (I have seen the image somewhere about 25 years ago in maybe Times Magazine). Reporters taken there were blindfolded and flown for hours so they will not have a clear sense of direction. The location is totally secret but it is suspected that it is Nevada. It was not dug out directly but a lateral tunnel was created several miles away to this subterranean site.
1. The West will launch countermeasures at these warheads. (Usually, they will be 13 to 17 on each ICBM and at this stage, they are in their terminal altitude in space). This is the threat level the American THAAD anti-missile system is designed to contain. It will fly into space and try to steer kill vehicles into those warheads and of course, the success rate will understandably only be partial. Some will end up successfully re-entering the earth and dive (under zero power) for their targets. At this point, the Patriot system will come into action and try to swat the warheads. The Patriot complex deals with missiles within the atmosphere.
2. Simultaneously NATO will give orders for its own missile launches and within minutes, you will see missiles rise from silos and from submarines heading East to attack preset targets. B-52s ('Stratofortress'), B1, ('Spirit') and B2 ('Bones') -all long range bombers will take off from the US, Germany and probably Japan armed with hydrogen and Plutonium bombs and head for Russia. There are also about 1,500 nuclear weapons on each side that are currently in the field, mingled with conventional weapons but known to commanders. Those are probably the most dangerous of all these arsenal of nuclear weapons because they are already and permanently dispersed in the field. All - everything will be launched within just about 30 minutes in this make or break final combat.
Everything described above from the moment one side launches its nuclear weapons will not take more than 45 to 60 minutes and it is all over. If the attack takes place at night, right here in Nigeria, if you look northwest towards Europe or east northwest towards the United States, or northeast towards Russia, you will actually see a dull glow in your night sky though you won't hear the thunder of the explosions.
The next three days or even a week will be normal although wind patterns may have become suspect. Thereafter, you will observe that the sky is getting darker and midday seems like dusk. That is the cloud of a global thermonuclear warfare.
The sun will be screened out for months and plants will die off. This will lead to global famine, first step. Of course, global trade is already gone and the world has reverted to primitive levels. The Internet is no more and telephone services have become epileptic.
Next will come the global outbreak of all forms of cancers from radiation carried around the world by the cloud earlier described. Death will become so much more desirable than life that those alive will curse their lot.
There will be survivors of course: those who have been hidden away in military grade silos and have ample supplies to carry them for about two years.
Those who just manage to go through about three years of life as foragers and scavengers and somehow have not been killed by skin cancer, blood cancer and other forms of metastasis. They are the ones that will populate the new world and begin to try to establish a new civilization.
Now you have an idea why NATO keeps avoiding fighting with Russia. It is simply to keep YOU alive.

Excuses is all I see here. NATO can't do jack because they know fully well that Russia is right to defend her security status in eastern Europe.

Ammishaddai:
Excuses is all I see here. NATO can't do jack because they know fully well that Russia is right to defend her security status in eastern Europe.

Sense is far from you my friend. Cant your just read and understand?

Mods this deserves front page pls

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hybrid77:


Sense is far from you my friend. Cant your just read and understand?

Mods this deserves front page pls

[/s] Don't ever quote me with your biased stupidity

I am not scared

Inag:

NATO's decision to not close the sky over Ukraine is correct. A shooting war between Russia and NATO should be avoided as much as possible and the way the US has been evading that confrontation is simply the right thing to do.If you think it is cowardice, it is because you don't know and this post will brief you.
Let me set it out in a very brief way.
There are three types of wars:
1. Conventional war - which is fought according to the rules of war: Don't kill civilians and children, don't hit civilian infrastructure, don't shoot surrendering enemy soldiers and PoWs, etc.
2. Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way.
3. Nuclear war.
On a normal day, Russia will fall quickly of NATO engages it in a conventional or a total war and Putin has admitted that much in a speech recently. There is no contest in that. NATO's firepower is extensive and its generals are top level.
However, the mismatch will force Russia to quickly resort to 'final-solution' tactics while it can - it will launch its arsenal of nuclear weapons. Lets be quickly reminded that since the 1970s, both the West and Russia have thousands of nuclear tipped missiles already programmed to hit targets in all major cities on each other's soil. With just the press of a button, those missiles will fly out and head for their targets.
But there are difficulties. Both sides have watchmen that are not sleeping. Every inch of Russian territory is under a 24/7 scan for missile launch by the West, using flare and heat detection satellites. Russia has the same system.
The moment a rocket motor ignites (most missiles are powered by rocket motors. Cruise missiles use air-breathing jet engines - pretty much the same used by aeroplanes, but they could be ramjets or jets with afterburners. Cruise missiles are usually called precision guided weapons), they know in the West. These missile scouts will start to track the missile or missiles and note their number, velocity and heading. They have about 10 minutes to confirm and reconfirm that missiles are being launched against the West. In this case they will mostly be ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles). Well, despite the heavy name, they are actually simple orbital rockets that can get into orbit and then re-enter the earth at the appropriate location - above their targets. At this point, they will release their thermonuclear warheads or bombs (all modern nuclear bombs carry thermonuclear warheads, that is, warheads that uses a small hydrogen bomb to initiate a chain reaction in its main fission bomb of Plutonium or Uranium). These warheads are shaped like cones and they are about 1.2m in height with a base diameter of about 800mm. The real active ingredient, Uranium or Plutonium inside the conical device is not bigger than a football but they are packed with the horrendous power of creation itself, the power of the nucleus of an atom called the Strong Force.
Two things will then happen in line with strictly established procedures it call it Battle Order.
Once a missile attack is detected, the US will immediately move it's president, his family, Pentagon chiefs and a few citizens into a bunker that is about 2 kilometers below the ground and under a mountain. It is suspended upon springs so it can withstand tectonic forces from a nuclear blast on the surface. The bunker contains provisions for two years to sustain the occupants. (I have seen the image somewhere about 25 years ago in maybe Times Magazine). Reporters taken there were blindfolded and flown for hours so they will not have a clear sense of direction. The location is totally secret but it is suspected that it is Nevada. It was not dug out directly but a lateral tunnel was created several miles away to this subterranean site.
1. The West will launch countermeasures at these warheads. (Usually, they will be 13 to 17 on each ICBM and at this stage, they are in their terminal altitude in space). This is the threat level the American THAAD anti-missile system is designed to contain. It will fly into space and try to steer kill vehicles into those warheads and of course, the success rate will understandably only be partial. Some will end up successfully re-entering the earth and dive (under zero power) for their targets. At this point, the Patriot system will come into action and try to swat the warheads. The Patriot complex deals with missiles within the atmosphere.
2. Simultaneously NATO will give orders for its own missile launches and within minutes, you will see missiles rise from silos and from submarines heading East to attack preset targets. B-52s ('Stratofortress'), B1, ('Spirit') and B2 ('Bones') -all long range bombers will take off from the US, Germany and probably Japan armed with hydrogen and Plutonium bombs and head for Russia. There are also about 1,500 nuclear weapons on each side that are currently in the field, mingled with conventional weapons but known to commanders. Those are probably the most dangerous of all these arsenal of nuclear weapons because they are already and permanently dispersed in the field. All - everything will be launched within just about 30 minutes in this make or break final combat.
Everything described above from the moment one side launches its nuclear weapons will not take more than 45 to 60 minutes and it is all over. If the attack takes place at night, right here in Nigeria, if you look northwest towards Europe or east northwest towards the United States, or northeast towards Russia, you will actually see a dull glow in your night sky though you won't hear the thunder of the explosions.
The next three days or even a week will be normal although wind patterns may have become suspect. Thereafter, you will observe that the sky is getting darker and midday seems like dusk. That is the cloud of a global thermonuclear warfare.
The sun will be screened out for months and plants will die off. This will lead to global famine, first step. Of course, global trade is already gone and the world has reverted to primitive levels. The Internet is no more and telephone services have become epileptic.
Next will come the global outbreak of all forms of cancers from radiation carried around the world by the cloud earlier described. Death will become so much more desirable than life that those alive will curse their lot.
There will be survivors of course: those who have been hidden away in military grade silos and have ample supplies to carry them for about two years.
Those who just manage to go through about three years of life as foragers and scavengers and somehow have not been killed by skin cancer, blood cancer and other forms of metastasis. They are the ones that will populate the new world and begin to try to establish a new civilization.
Now you have an idea why NATO keeps avoiding fighting with Russia. It is simply to keep YOU alive.

Thanks for the info. Appreciated

Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way.

You are a clown ..never speak about things you know nothing about ..there is nothing like Total war you wrote here and even if there was this is not the definition

My happiness is that me and Dangote and bill gate will become the same. A total factory reset. That will be a joker of our time.

You're a fool if you think the people capable of making war with Russia refrain from doing so because they give a sh1t about you.

Ammishaddai:
Excuses is all I see here. NATO can't do jack because they know fully well that Russia is right to defend her security status in eastern Europe.

I know ur brain is demented hence comprehension is far from u.

SarkinYarki:


You are a clown ..never speak about things you know nothing about ..there is nothing like Total war you wrote here and even if there was this is not the definition

Am very sure that u don't know what is called radioactive fallout. Its effects is catastrophic disaster that is what op meant by ''Total war''
So speaking like educated idiot.

"2. Total war - which Russia seems to be fighting in Ukraine right now and which it fought against Chechnya in Grozny. In a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way."

The above is absolute nonsense. If Russia was fighting "...a total war, you just kill everybody you see and destroy everything on your way" there would not have been Ukraine by now.
Anyway, you added the phrase "seems to"

Very informative

seunowa:

Am very sure that u don't know what is called radioactive fallout. Its effects is catastrophic disaster that is what op meant by ''Total war''
So speaking like educated idiot.

I will school you on anything warfare and the military for decades so shut up. I could already give lectures or on radio active fallouts when I was 6 years old.... OP is a typical empty Nigerian clown like you that always want to mimic and bandy terms

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seunowa:

I know ur brain is demented hence comprehension is far from u.

[/s] Another idiòt that supports western propaganda and one-sided stupidity

This thread has been invaded by Putin's zombies.

@OP thanks for the apt information.


Joe Biden and the West are not senseless like Putin who doesn't care if the whold world burns.

Very foolish naive ones still feeding under their parents think war is action movie watched from the screen without direct effect on them.
America and Russia can both destroy each other but America isn't prepare to sacrifice the peace and prosperity it's citizens are enjoying.
It's not yet a global war yet we are buying diesel at N750 and wheat price has soared.
For a continent that relies on the Western countries for even the basic necessities of life and drugs, the west and china would channel their resources into war effort and sustainance of their people and Nigeria would be worst hit than the warring countries.
Imagine the scarcity and inflation of the available ones. Most of you waiting for NATO to escalate it would live miserably than you could ever imagine.
I reckon NATO would destroy Russia even though I don't fancy their hypocrisy but Russia too would cause damages the superior intelligent people know would happen and can't afford to risk..
World war 1 and 2 has already shown the countries are capable of global conflict and if Russia mistakenly attacks a NATO country, the NATO would be left with no choice but to go to war. It's a matter of principle. Principled people don't shy away from commitment.
It's in our best interest for the conflict to be resolved as soon as possible.
I would really be surprised and disappointed if any matured person with responsibility is calling one side a coward or looking forward to global conflict.

hybrid77:


Sense is far from you my friend. Cant your just read and understand?

Mods this deserves front page pls

You would be surprised you are responding to a teenager. It's all fun to him and he thinks he would be reading the outcome safely online.

Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Another idiòt that supports western propaganda and one-sided stupidity

Ur stupidity knows no bound

SarkinYarki:


I will school you on anything warfare and the military for decades so shut up. I could already give lectures or on radio active fallouts when I was 6 years old.... OP is a typical empty Nigerian clown like you that always want to mimic and bandy terms

look at one educated illiterate oozing emptiness.

seunowa:

look at one educated illiterate oozing emptiness.

Typical Low IQed NIGERIAN , I meet your type all the time mumu

SarkinYarki:


Typical Low IQed NIGERIAN , I meet your type all the time mumu

Sorry I don't know that u are suffering from brain defects

Good. And NATO is very sensible for doing just that.

NATO vs Russia war means Nigeria won't survive for 1week.

Àwọn Analyst Leleyi,
Gbogbo Analysis ni wọn ti ṣe sókè bayi

They're actually avoiding a direct confrontation and war with Russia for the sake of THEIR citizens first and foremost. It just so happens that what is good for their citizens also benefits smaller and less powerful countries.

Russia and the key NATO powers have nuclear weapons pointing DIRECTLY at each other. The effect will, of course, spill to every corner of the globe, but they will be the first casualties.

I strongly believe if the nukes had no way to hit no NATO country, they would have intervened. It is them also being casualties of the nuclear fallout that may occur that is holding them back, not because they just loooove Africans, Asians, and humanity so much.

Bro! Always do your findings before posting information online.

The US has two defense systems that are
primarily designed to neutralise ICBM (strategic missile).

They are:-

1. Ship based AEGIS defense system
2. Ground-Based Midcourse Defense

Russia answer to ICBM are A-135 anti-ballistic missile system, A-35 anti-ballistic missile system and the S-550. Israel has Arrow 3, and Indian has Prithvi Defence Vehicle Mark-II.

The Patriot and THAAD are designed primarily to neutralise tactical missile. Likewise the david sling, S-300, S-400 e.t.c

I think, comparing NATO with Russia make no sense. Thirty countries to just one country. But individually all NATO members lack the capacity to invade Russia.

NATO & it allies does not have monopoly of violence & manipulation. Russia & it allies are strong fit & can withstand NATO, US & it allies any day anytime. This have been proven more than 30 years & they've all live through isolation & came out stronger & getting more stronger & emboldened.

I don't pray for war or a nuclear war of any kind. Third WWIII will not be brought forward by Russian & it allies but rather by US & it allies, as time have proven it to be again & again. Those who thinks US & it allies are stronger as they were in 1990 are wrong & more countries have more deadly weapons {biological weapons that if fitted into ICBM & other war heads & if or when lunch, will or might be end of human race).

War is never the solution. Only the dead have seen the end of war.

I bet anyone to quote me... If Russia streak any NATO nation today, The US, NATO & it allies will only bark & threatened sanctions or imposed it.

US will not risk Washington DC, Germany will not risk Berlin, France will not risk Rome for any nation just in the name of one alliance. Poland & it likes are just so inexperienced baby in the midst of brave nations with killer armies & arsenals.

NOTE... Most weapons Russians are using to prosecute the war in Ukraine are mild & baby weapons, even the US acknowledge that recently in a press conference.

But if it was Iraq, Somalia, Panama, Libya and Vietnam, USA(NATO) will go there to bomb them but when USA( NATO ) saw a country that can strike her back to back then suddenly USA( NATO) is defend military pact.

All NATO members are nothing without the head(USA) and since the head don’t want to put her own citizens at risk, the rest lapdogs can only bark .

Reason Russia said they will strike the head of the snake not the body.

olugabbie:
I think, comparing NATO with Russia make no sense. Thirty countries to just one country. But individually all NATO members lack the capacity to invade Russia.

Are you talking of Russia that is been stressed by a country that is probably not as militarily as strong as Nigeria?

edosignature:
NATO & it allies does not have monopoly of violence & manipulation. Russia & it allies are strong fit & can withstand NATO, US & it allies any day anytime. This have been proven more than 30 years & they've all live through isolation & came out stronger & getting more stronger & emboldened.

I don't pray for war or a nuclear war of any kind. Third WWIII will not be brought forward by Russian & it allies but rather by US & it allies, as time have proven it to be again & again. Those who thinks US & it allies are stronger as they were in 1990 are wrong & more countries have more deadly weapons {biological weapons that if fitted into ICBM & other war heads & if or when lunch, will or might be end of human race).

War is never the solution. Only the dead have seen the end of war.

I bet anyone to quote me... If Russia streak any NATO nation today, The US, NATO & it allies will only bark & threatened sanctions or imposed it.

US will not risk Washington DC, Germany will not risk Berlin, France will not risk Rome for any nation just in the name of one alliance. Poland & it likes are just so inexperienced baby in the midst of brave nations with killer armies & arsenals.

NOTE... Most weapons Russians are using to prosecute the war in Ukraine are mild & baby weapons, even the US acknowledge that recently in a press conference.

You are the wisest one here.