My Prayer is that God himself will open your eyes to see and your heart to understand.
The fact that you are confused is a starting poing in your life. You will understand soon.

God cannot open your eyes as God is a figment of weak peoples imaginations. Only you can open your eyes, nobody else can.

If you feel praying helps then go ahead. You might just as well talk to yourself though as at least one person will be listening.

First of all GEEGEE my comment was to blkraven.   

Second, what the freak are you talking about? I never "wished you anything." 

Third, I never commented in my one sentence post that I had a problem with you not being a Christian. Do what you do, sweetie. Don't see what you want to see, see what I posted, please.

Fourth, You know nothing about my heart, nor me for that matter. 

The heart WILL lead you astray b/c it is emotional (figuratively speaking). A certain percentage of crimes are committed in the HEAT OF PASSION.  Ex. A lover, husband or wife caught cheating, anger, hurt, hate, spite.  All of these emotions (from the heart) can cause you to kill or harm a person.  Basically, when these emotions are experienced you don't tend to think too clearly until later. 

In essence, the heart (if you let it) can lead you astray.  If you would've searched deeper before you attacked me you'd know what I was referring to. Obviously not. 

It's cool beans though, sweetie!!! 

Hi Analyt82

Since you were referring to me. I would like to respond. You say the heart will lead you astray. It appears you took my statement literally. By saying that she should do what she knows in her heart is right, I'm not referring to emotions. I mean that she should be led by her conscience.

Life is a journey of self-discovery and enlightenment. We may all take different routes (some longer than others) but we'll get to our destination in the end. I think the OP should be allowed to go on her journey as she pleases without judgement being passed on her. She does not have to belong to a religious group unless that is her choice.

That's just my opinion.

Once again, I could care less if she was religious or not. How can you get me judging her and religion out of six words? Someone please answer me that. N E way. . . . you gave your opinion and I gave mine. That's what some threats are about. Yall don't have to defend each other, I wasn't attacking anyone. As a matter of fact yall sound a little too defensive. You want opinion, but get defensive if it doesn't sit well

It's not that serious sweetie!!

It's cool beans with you to

Analyt82

Whoa! Whoa! Where did all that come from?

The second paragraph was just a general comment and was not directly aimed at you. Don't take it personally.

PMSL

Oh, I didn't. It's still cool beans!!!

"I am a free thinker, does that mean I wont go to heaven?"

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You wont go because it does not exist

Geegee I want you to look up the sky, can you detect any pillar? Now look again can you see anything holding the havens? Of course you will continue to look till your eyes go wary. DO you think God has created everything perfectly including you for you to stand up one day and say hey "i am a free thinker" . God has not created you and me and every other creatures for nothing but worship him. so how do you worship him? is obviously thorough the ordained way. remember all creatures Even the trees bow down in adoration. SO madam I don’t think you are too special to worship him.
In Essence , he has created you for no reason but to worship him and he has laid down the procedures which you'll take. Ignorance is not an excuse please,
    Free thinking won’t take you anywhere you just have to follow what God has ordained for you, The revelation (Through the scriptures).

Have it in mind that religion is an Obligation not a necessity

Religion is the root of all evil and should be banned.

Religion is the root of all evil and should be banned.

Sometimes I wonder some people think like this…, Religion should be banned? Did you create you? Will you honor who has created you and provided you with your needs. Consider the water you drink is it you that brings it down from the sky or God, what about the seed which you grow? Is it you that make it God or God? If he wishes, he will turn your Harvest into Chaff then you’ll be filled with wonderment shouting about that you’re deprived. He has given you all this favors without really struggling for it, and all you can say is …

Religion is the root of all evil and should be banned.

Reverend I think you should really seek for forgiveness from God
By the way reverend, can you sincerely point out that evil that Religion has caused? I know that the Evil you are talking about is caused by us Human and not our religion.
We should be blamed and Go to trial not our religions

Why should I seek forgivness from a pretend being?

The whole fairy story about the loving, perfect being, living above the clouds, watching everything we do is insane and absolute nonsense.

If the perfect God supposedly made us in his image, then it stands to reason that he too must be evil?

People should get a life and stop looking for something is not out there

GOD ID DEAD BECAUSE GOD NEVER LIVED

and the "Reverend" continues his endless, albeit hateful, search for the Living God.
One day, you'd find Him. Keep on looking

twixstars:



Sometimes I wonder some people think like this…, Religion should be banned? Did you create you? Will you honor who has created you and provided you with your needs. Consider the water you drink is it you that brings it down from the sky or God, what about the seed which you grow? Is it you that make it God or God? If he wishes, he will turn your Harvest into Chaff then you’ll be filled with wonderment shouting about that you’re deprived. He has given you all this favors without really struggling for it, and all you can say is …
Reverend I think you should really seek for forgiveness from God
By the way reverend, can you sincerely point out that evil that Religion has caused? I know that the Evil you are talking about is caused by us Human and not our religion.
We should be blamed and Go to trial not our religions

Please which God are you alluding to?

Please which God are you alluding to?

Do you know anyother God? well i think i am talkin about the same God me and you worship. dosnt really matter how we do it or the procedures which we follow.
whether christenity, Islam or any other religion

There are thousands of God's worshiped on this planet, only the Hindu's have more than 28,000 different ones

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  I'm A Free Thinker: Does That Mean I Won't Go To Heaven?
« on: August 04, 2007, 01:10 AM » 

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I do not belong to any religion, neither do I worship anywhere but I believe there is God.

And I try to keep his commandments, I'm not hypocritical neither am I jugdmental.

I treat everyone fairly, Christian and Muslims inclusive with respect for their beliefs.

Yet I'm being criticised for not having a religion and a place of worship.

Please I want your opinion on this thanks.

Here is the thing. Why do you expect to go to heaven?? Whose heaven?? I mean the muslim heaven?? the Christian heaven?? The hindu idea?? the satanist heaven??Buddhist idea Since your God has commandments for you to live by, you might as well ask him right now if he at least owns a heaven you can go to as reward of serving him with your life and time now. Be sure he has a heaven for you to go to at least. By the way, how did you get the commandments of your God?? Did he whisper this information to you and you alone??

PTH:


Not really, that you reap what you sow is not synonymous with being given the choice to choose between good and evil. Obviously no one chooses to reap evil even when that is what they sow.



This is a classic example of the muddled thinking of he who considers himself a "freethinker". Is it possible to NOT have to pick a father but merely acknowledge that a father exists?
1. Every "God" has clearly distinct conditions and requirements; how do you know which one to follow?

2. Is merely treating someone the way they wish to be treated the general criteria demanded by all "gods"?

3. There is no middle road between right or wrong. You either choose a "god" to follow or you choose not to follow any. That is the real beauty of free thinking.



God is not a mysterious spiritual phenomenon. Depending on what "religion" you believe in, God is indeed real, with specific concepts of how to reach Him and how He speaks to us.
Like every appliance we use in everyday life, God has His own manual. To pretend to have a relationship with Him outside that manual is to decieve yourself. Even witches and devils can also claim to be reaching out to "God" through their own experiences.

PTH/Davidylan, I assume you're christian. There's this part of the Bible(can't remember though) that says that the laws of God shall no more be written on tablets of stone but in the HEARTS of men. Does that not refer to the conscience as God's voice in us?

Waiting for your scholarly answer.


Thank you.

gbadex1:
gee, and it's the same ol' Rev that would quote scriptures from the Bible trying to validate his "Jesus and Mary had an affair", "God encourages and allows masturbation" BS. disgusting hypocrites, most of the so-called "freethinkers" here are. If God doesn't exist Rev, why use the Bible to validate the crap you brought up a year or two ago? Oh i forgot, u were exposed for the fraud you truly are. I guess Kinky church and Fletcher Snr must be paying you peanuts. better go fry and sell some akara in the UK. As for Horus, ROFL - you are simply pathetic IQ wise. Since u don't believe in Heaven, then the Amun-Re abi na Ra of the bla bla Tamareans that you've been touting on these boards for months automatically doesn't exist. Better yet go call the sorry excuse of an alter ego Kuns to serve the already programmed BS u keep sprouting. . .

Are you a Christian? For there's a huge discrepancy between you and the CHRISTIANS I read about in the Bible. They aren't as caustic and insultive as you've proven to be.

Religion indeed was created by man.
However i'm still at a loss as to how you expect to reach a "god" you dont know. Merely knowing a god exists is not enough. The question is which one? How and to whom does "he" reach out to? Which is the way to "him"?