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| Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 2:00pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
Muhammad’s Quraysh tribe was said to be of idol worshippers Abdulmuttalib, Muhammad’s grandfather was a pagan Muhammad’a father, Abdullah was a pagan because Muhammad confirmed that his father was in Hellfire
The Quran says that Muhammad was lost and misguided before he became a prophet: Muhammad was misguided and lost before Allah claimed to have sent him but Muslims always lie that Allah doesn't send the misguided.
Jesus’ earthly parents took him to the temple as a child, he served the only true God, he was never lost or misguided
Jesus continued to serve the only true God and he commanded his disciples to preach the gospel to the whole world. Muhammad also continued to serve his tribal god, Allah whom his pagan grandfather also served and named Abdullah after! Which religion did Muhammad practice before being named prophet by Waraqa? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by Rashduct4luv(m): 5:24pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
advocatejare: The Arabian tribes were idol worshiper but he never believed in their idols. You can't even find one even fabricated narration on this. The Qur'an verse of 93:7 is similar to Allah's saying: (And thus We have sent to you a Ruh from Our command. you knew not what is the Book, nor what is Faith. But We have made it a light wherewith We guide whosoever of our servants We will...) (42:52) The word daallan as used in the original is derived from dalalat, which has several meanings in Arabic. Its one meaning is to be lost in error and deviation; another, to be unaware of the way and to be bewildered at the crossroads as to which way one should choose; still another meaning is of being lost and astray. The tree also is daallah which stands alone and lonely in the desert; the word dalal is also used for a thing which is wasting in unfavorable and uncongenial condition and climate, and also for heedlessness, of which there is an example in the Qur'an itself: La yadillu Rabbi wa la yansa:. "My Lord is neither heedless nor He forgets." ('Ta Ha: 52). Out of these different meanings. The first meaning does not apply here, for in the historical accounts of the Holy Prophet's life, from childhood till just before Prophethood, there is no trace that he ever might have been involved in idolatry, polytheism or atheism, or in any of the acts, customs and practices of paganism prevalent among his people. Therefore, inevitably wa wa. jadaka daallan cannot mean that Allah had found him erring and astray in respect of creed or deed. The other meanings, however, can be applicable here in one or other aspect, and possibly all are applicable in their own particular aspect. Before Prophethood the Holy Prophet was certainly a believer in the existence of Allah and His Unity, and his life was free from sin and reflected excellent morals, yet he was unaware of true Faith, its principles and injunctions. Jesus’ earthly parents took him to the temple as a child, he served the only true God, he was never lost or misguided Jesus was learned unlike the Prophet. Can you share his life story from infancy to adulthood like 1-29 yrs in details from the Bible? Muhammad also continued to serve his tribal god, Allah whom his pagan grandfather also served and named Abdullah after!Where can we find this in the Islamic text? Which religion did Muhammad practice before being named prophet by Waraqa?Did Waraqa named him a Prophet? Emphasis on the named! Muhammad was clearly a Muslim as it is widely known he visits the cave Hira to ponder! Before his mission began, Allah, may He be exalted, protected him from prostrating to idols and worshipping them, as his people used to do. ·Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, also protected him from drinking alcohol even before Prophethood. Al-Haafiz al-‘Alaa’i (may Allah have mercy on him) said: What should be noted definitively is that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) did not drink any intoxicating fermented drinks at the time when they were permissible, and this is not found in any report whatsoever, whether with a saheeh or da‘eef isnaad. End quote from Fataawa al-‘Alaa’i (75) ·A rock used to greet him (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) with salaam before his mission began. Muslim (2277) narrated that Jaabir ibn Samurah said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “I know a rock in Makkah that used to greet me before I was sent. I would recognize it even now.” ·Jibreel (peace be upon him) opened his chest when he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was small, and took out (from his heart) the share of the Shaytaan. ·It was narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allah be pleased with him) that Jibreel came to the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) when he was playing with the other boys. He took hold of him and threw him to the ground, then he opened his chest and took out his heart, from which he took a clot of blood and said: “This was the Shaytaan’s share of you.” Then he washed it in a vessel of gold that was filled with Zamzam. Then he put it back together and returned it to its place. The boys went running to his mother – meaning his nurse – and said: Muhammad has been killed! They went to him and his colour had changed. Anas said: I used to see the mark of that stitching on his chest. Narrated by Muslim (162). Before his mission began, he (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) never saw any dream but it came true like the light of dawn. Al-Bukhaari (3) and Muslim (160) narrated that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) did not see any dream but it came true like the light of dawn. ·It was narrated by at-Tirmidhi (3620) – who classed it as hasan – and by al-Bayhaqi in Dalaa’il an-Nubuwwah (2/24) that Abu Moosa said: Abu Taalib set out for Syria, and the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) set out with him, along with some elders from Quraysh. When they drew near to the monk they dismounted and unloaded their baggage. The monk came out to them, but before that when they passed by him he did not come out to them or pay any attention to them. As they were unloading their baggage and he went to them and walked among them until he came and took the hand of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and said: This is the leader of the worlds; this is the Messenger of the Lord of the Worlds; Allah has sent him as a mercy to the worlds. The elders of Quraysh said to him: How do you know? He said: When you came from al-‘Aqabah, he did not pass any tree or rock but it fell down in prostration, and they do not prostrate except for a Prophet. I recognised him; the Seal of Prophethood is below his shoulder-blade, like an apple. Then he went back and made some food for them, and when he came, [the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)] was tending the camels, so he said: Send for him. He came, with a cloud shading him, and [the monk] said: Look at him; there is a cloud shading him. When he came to the people, he found that they had already taken up the shaded area beneath the tree, but when he sat down, the shadow of the tree moved to cover him. [The monk] said: Look at how the shadow of the tree has moved to cover him. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh at-Tirmidhi So stop comparing your Jesus with Muhammad! Jesus was unknown from 1 year old to 29 years in the Bible except for a few times around 12. |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 6:57pm On Mar 23, 2022 |
Rashduct4luv:His grandfather was an idol worshipper and named Muhammad’s father after his idol, Allah: Abd Allah His father was an idol worshipper and that was why Muhammad himself said that his father was inside hellfire Muhammad was said to have become a prophet at the age of 40 years and he was said to have been lost till then, lost doing what? Following his family tradition Muhammad was lost and misguided, your Quran states it You have said it all, I’ve emboldened them for you! Abdulmuttalib the pagan also believed his pagan Allah and even wanted to sacrifice Abdullahi to the same Allah Jesus was learned unlike the Prophet.Which school did Jesus attend? Muhammad could read and write, it was documented in the ahadith Muhammad used to go and worship his idol in the cave when while he was lost and misguided until one day when he had encounter with the jinn that pinned him down Waraqa was the one that lied to Muhammad that what he saw was Jibreel thereby saying that Muhammad was receiving divine message (a prophet) When Khadija was calming muhammad down, she mentioned Allah which was the tribal god of Quraysh which Khadijah is also from! Sahih al-Bukhari 3 Narrated 'Aisha (the mother of the faithful believers): The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright daylight, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship continuously for many days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey food for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food likewise again till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "I do not know how to read." The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists), created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous." (96.1, 96.2, 96.3) Then Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something may happen to me." Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving calamity-afflicted ones." Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the pre-Islamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight. Khadija said to Waraqa, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqa asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) described whatever he had seen. Waraqa said, "This is the same one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live up to the time when your people would turn you out." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) asked, "Will they drive me out?" Waraqa replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with something similar to what you have brought was treated with hostility; and if I should remain alive till the day when you will be turned out then I would support you strongly." But after a few days Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was also paused for a while. Who was Muhammad worshipping in seclusion in Hira cave? 4 Likes |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 6:37am On Mar 24, 2022 |
Chai! See plenty falsehood from this Christian liar! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 6:58am On Mar 24, 2022 |
AntiChristian:  So your Sahih Bukhari, Muslim and Quran are now falsehoods? Sahih Muslim 203 Anas reported: Verily, a person said: Messenger of Allah, where is my father? He said: (He) is in the Fire. When he turned away, he (the Holy Prophet) called him and said: Verily my father and your father are in the Fire. Quran 93:7 "We found you lost and guided [you]" “wawajadaka ḍāllan fahad The word used is ضَالًّا dallan, which means lost, astray, misguided. Was Abdulmuttalib not an idol worshipper? Did he not name Muhammad’s father after Allah his idol? Was Muhammed not in the cave of Hira for many days worshipping (?who) before he had an encountered with the entity that pressed him down? Stop doing Taqiyya Mr. Man! 3 Likes |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 8:16am On Mar 24, 2022 |
Rash4ductluv deliberately didn’t paste the complete Ibn Kathir Tafsir for us but chose Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi. Ibn Kathir made us know that people knew that it was a devil that was revealing things to Muhammad: “ The Reason for the Revelation of Surat Ad-Duha Imam Ahmad recorded from Jundub that he said, "The Prophet became ill, so he did not stand for prayer for a night or two. Then a woman came and said, `O Muhammad! I think that your devil has finally left you.' So Allah revealed, Surah 93;3 “ Your Lord has not taken leave of you, [O Muḥammad], nor has He detested [you]. We now know whom Muhammad’a Lord was! 1 Like |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 8:30am On Mar 24, 2022 |
advocatejare:This is correct! His father was not a Muslim. The Minimum criteria for Jannah is being a Muslim. Quran 93:7 Does lost means he was not a Muslim? No! Most Prophets were in this state before being guided! The state of being lost but yet not worshipping idols! As Rashduct4luv quoted above The Qur'an verse of 93:7 is similar to Allah's saying: (And thus We have sent to you a Ruh from Our command. you knew not what is the Book, nor what is Faith. But We have made it a light wherewith We guide whosoever of our servants We will...)(42:52) That's why you don't know much about Jesus throughout much of his infancy, puberty to adulthood till about 30 years! Which hadith specifically says Allah was ever represented by an idol? Which texts states that Muhammad's father was named after an Idol? These is the evidence that you are a liar! Was Muhammed not in the cave of Hira for many days worshipping (?who) before he had an encountered with the entity that pressed him down? It is reported in al-Saheehayn from ‘Urwah ibn al-Zubayr that ‘Aa’ishah the wife of the Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The beginning of the Revelation that came to the Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was good dreams; he never saw a dream but it came true like bright daylight. Then seclusion was made dear to him, and he used to go to the cave of Hiraa’ and worship there, which means that he went and devoted himself to worship for a number of nights before coming back to his family to collect more provisions, then he would go back again. Then he would go back to Khadeejah to collect more provisions. (This went on) until the truth came to him suddenly when he was in the cave of Hiraa’. The angel came and said, ‘Read!’ The Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘I am not a reader.’ He said, Then he took hold of me and squeezed me until I could not bear it any more then he released me and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘I am not a reader.’ He took hold of me and squeezed me a second time until I could not bear it any more, then he released me and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘I am not a reader.’ He took hold of me and squeezed me a third time until I could not bear it any more, then he released me and said, ‘Read! In the Name of your Lord Who has created (all that exists). He has created man from a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood). Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous. Who has taught (the writing) by the pen. He has taught man that which he knew not.’ [al-‘Alaq 96:1-5 – interpretation of the meaning] Then the Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went back with his heart beating wildly, until he came to Khadeejah and said, ‘Cover me! Cover me!’ They covered him till his fear went away. Then he said to Khadeejah, ‘O Khadeejah, I fear for myself,’ and he told her what had happened. Khadeejah said, ‘Nay, be of good cheer, for by Allaah, Allaah will never disgrace you. You uphold the ties of kinship, speak truthfully, help the poor and destitute, serve your guests generously and assist those who are stricken by calamity.’ Then Khadeejah took him to Waraqah ibn Nawfal, the son of her paternal uncle. He was a man who had become a Christian during the jaahiliyyah. He used to write Arabic script and he used to write from the Gospel in Arabic as much as Allaah willed he should write. He was an old man who had become blind. Khadeejah said, ‘O son of my uncle, listen to what your nephew says.’ Waraqah said: ‘O son of my brother, what have you seen?’ [The Prophet SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)] told him what he had seen. Waraqah said: ‘This is the Naamoos [Jibreel] who came down to Moosa. Would that I were young and could live until the time when your people will drive you out.’ The Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘Will they really drive me out?’ Waraqah said, ‘Yes. Never has there come a man with that which you have brought, but he was persecuted. If I should live to see that day, I will support you strongly.’ But a few days later, Waraqah died, and the Revelation also ceased for a while, until the Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was filled with grief. Muhammad ibn Shihaab said: Abu Salamah ibn ‘Abd al-Rahmaan told me that Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah al-Ansaari said: “The Messenger of Allaah SAWS (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, speaking of that period when the revelation ceased: ‘Whilst I was walking, I heard a voice from the sky. I looked up and saw the angel who had come to me in Hiraa’, sitting on a chair between the heavens and the earth. I felt scared of him, so I came home and said, “Cover me, cover me [with blankets]!” So they did, then Allaah revealed the words: “O you (Muhammad) enveloped in garments! Arise and warn! And magnify your Lord (Allaah)! And purify your garments! And keep away from Ar-Rujz (the idols)!” [al-Muddathir 74:1-5].’” Abu Salamah said: al-rujz were the idols which the people of the Jaahiliyyah used to worship. Then the revelation came frequently after that. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4572; Muslim, 231) Stop doing Taqiyya Mr. Man! Where is the Taqiyya? You'll bring lies and then accuse people of telling lies? 1 Like 2 Shares |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by Antiislaam(m): 9:35am On Mar 24, 2022 |
AntiChristian: If his father was not a Muslim, how come Adam, Abraham, Moses, etc are all Muslims? 5 Likes |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 9:45am On Mar 24, 2022 |
Antiislaam: Because they submitted to the will of Allah! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 10:18am On Mar 24, 2022 |
AntiChristian:If his father who was named after their tribal god, Allah was not a muslim, how did Muhammad become a muslim? List those prophets and your proofs from your Quran We know things about Jesus’ childhood The naming and circumcision of Jesus were known Luke 2:21 And when eight days were completed for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb. Can you tell us When Abu Qasim was named Muhammad? Was Muhammad circumcised according to the law of Moses? When was he circumcised and give us your reference Also, at 12 years old, as stated in Luke 2: 41 “Every year Jesus’ parents went to Jerusalem for the Festival of the Passover.42 When he was twelve years old, they went up to the festival, according to the custom.” Which hadith specifically says Allah was ever represented by an idol? Which texts states that Muhammad's father was named after an Idol? These is the evidence that you are a liar!The pagans have been worshipping Allah even before Muhammad was born, Abdulmuttalib wanted to sacrifice Abdullah to his idol Allah. Abdullah means Abd Allah, slave of Allah. Allah was worshipped by pagan Abdulmuttalib 1 Like |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 10:33am On Mar 24, 2022 |
advocatejare:Where is the evidence that Allah was the tribal God? List those prophets and your proofs from your QuranYou are the one in need of proof against what i said! We know things about Jesus’ childhoodWhat happened when Jesus was 15 years -25 years? Did he learn carpentry from Joseph? Did he study from famous Rabi in the temple? Was he involved in any sort of activity that made him different during those period? We are talking about meaningful thing not circumcision and killing doves for Jesus ceremony! The pagans have been worshipping Allah even before Muhammad was born, Abdulmuttalib wanted to sacrifice Abdullah to his idol Allah. Give evidence that Allah was the idol they worship? The onus is on you to provide the evidence! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 11:00am On Mar 24, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Abdulmuttalib wanted to sacrifice Abdullah to Allah and the Quraysh were all there Who named muhammad? Was he circumcised? Was he dedicated to God? What happened in his first 12 years of life? Pagan Abdulmuttalib wanted to sacrifice Abdullah to Allah. Can a pagan sacrifice to another god? Can a pagan name his child after another god? Abdulmuttalib named his child Abdullah after Allah : Abd Allah just like Waraqa’s father was named after one of the daughters of Allah Al-Uzza : Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, 1 Like |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by Antiislaam(m): 11:01pm On Mar 24, 2022 |
AntiChristian: So muhammad's father didn't submitted to the will of allah right? |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 8:36am On Mar 25, 2022 |
Antiislaam: He was not a Muslim Just as Joseph/Mary never believed in the trinity nor Jesus as Lord and savior! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by GreatAxeMan: 9:02am On Mar 25, 2022 |
Mary was a Christian and she regularly supervised Christian prayer meetings at her home: Acts 12 : 12 And when he had considered the thing, he came to the house of Mary the mother of John, whose surname was Mark; where many were gathered together praying Meanwhile Muhammad's parents according to Muhammad himself are being boiled in hellfire as we speak: Anas narrated that a man asked, ‘O Messenger of Allah, where is my father?’ The Prophet said, ‘In Hell.’ When he turned away the Prophet called him back and said, My father and your father are in Hell.’” (Sahih Muslim 203, Book 1, #408 AntiChristian: 3 Likes |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 10:06am On Mar 25, 2022 |
GreatAxeMan: Stop this kind of subtle lies! Mary didn't knew she was a Christian. Just because she prayed does not mean she was a Christian. What about Joseph? Was he antiChristian because he didn't pray like Mary?Mary & Joseph never accept Jesus as their Lord and savior! Meanwhile Muhammad's parents according to Muhammad himself are being boiled in hellfire as we speak: I agree totally that anyone who is not Muslim will not enter Jannah! The Hadith says his father is in hell and that's it. Where will Jesus's father be? Was he a Christian? Does he believed Jesus was God or in the trinity? All these questions no get network at all for Bible! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by GreatAxeMan: 11:27am On Mar 25, 2022 |
Lol, this is the best you can come up with? The Atonement of Jesus on the Cross was once and for all, past, present and future. The righteous people who lived before Jesus were saved based on the fact that they believed on the promise of the coming Messiah. Later, Paul wrote that “Abraham believed God, and God credited it to him as righteousness.” Paul also said this applies to the Old Testament patriarchs and prophets: Hebrews 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. Joseph is described as a righteous man so it stands to reason that just like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob etc, he will be in heaven too. Meanwhile we already know that your "prophet's" parents are in hell, but do you also know that your "prophet" himself will also be in hell? It's in your own Hadith: Narrated Ibn Abbas: The Prophet said, "If anyone of you on having sexual relations with his wife said (and he must say it before starting) 'In the name of Allah. O Allah! Protect us from Satan and also protect what you bestow upon us (i.e. the coming offspring) from Satan, and if it is destined that they should have a child then, Satan will never be able to harm that offspring." Sahih Muslim 1434a MOOhaMAD's father was a pagan who is in hell, so of course he did not say the pre sexual prayer before he impregnated MOOhaMAD's mother. This means that MOOhaMAD was conceived and born under the influence of Satan! Do you know the only person who wasn't born under the influence of Satan? I'll let you find out from reading your Hadith! Sahih Muslim: Book 30: Hadith 5837 Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: No child is born but he is pricked by the satan and he begins to weep because of the pricking of the satan except the son of Mary and his mother So even in his own man made religion, allah bestowed more favour on Jesus than on poor MOOhaMAD! Don't you feel sorry for the poor guy? AntiChristian: |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by Antiislaam(m): 12:52am On Mar 26, 2022 |
AntiChristian: So muhammad inherited an idol from his father which he turns to allah for you guys, that's lovely.. Thought your alfa told you Joseph/Mary were Muslims abi confusion is affecting you again? |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 12:19pm On Mar 26, 2022 |
Antiislaam: Where is the proof he inherited anything from his father? Thought your alfa told you Joseph/Mary were Muslims abi confusion is affecting you again?Where did i claim they were Muslims? Anyone who submits to the will of Allah is a Muslim. So if they did that during their time, then they are Muslims! Say what i say and don't lie that i said what i never said! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by Antiislaam(m): 11:00pm On Mar 26, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Do I need to tell you that the Quraysh tribe which muhammad came from are idol worshippers? Also, do I need to tell you that Muhammad’s father, Abdullah was a pagan roasted in hellfire? Which proof did you still need again? AntiChristian: It is now if they did that during that time, you and your fellow slaves from the religion of allah are as confused as a chameleon. It is here on NL we told you that none of these people recognized allah as the true God, none of them worshipped allah, none of them submitted to allah. Your god allah was brought by muhammad the founder of Islam and the first Muslim on earth If according to allah Adam, Moses, Abraham, Jacob, etc are all Muslims why is Abdullah's case diffrent? Why did allah allow Muhammad's father roasted in hell? Muhammad cannot solicited for his father, is that not a big slap on Muhammad for his god allah to have allowed his father burnt in hell fire? |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 5:50am On Mar 27, 2022 |
Antiislaam:Oh! Are you saying your parents too inherit some idols from their ancestors since idol worship was here before the missionaries brought Christianity? You must have inherited some idols too! That's how illogical you sound!
Whoever dies as a non-muslim will end in hell. Abdullah was not a Muslim. Muslims can't solicit for non-muslims to be saved from hell. Even your Jesus was asked to put someone on his left and right in heaven but he said it is for those his father prepared it for. What you sow you reap! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by Antiislaam(m): 7:52am On Mar 27, 2022 |
AntiChristian: Muhammad's father a pagan and an idol worshipper shared the same name with the god muhammad brought for you that he called "allah" do I need to tell you this? Or you are expecting me to tell you the story of ʿAbd allāh muhammad's father? Is that not enough to tell you that allah is an idol that he (muhammad) inherited from his father? AntiChristian: If everyone according to your ignoramus in Islam from the very first day of Adam were Muslims and anobi, why is ʿAbd allāh muhammad's father that even share a name with your god allah own case different? Shey no one could took jihad to his door step to accept Islam by fire by force when he was alive? You need to tell the league of your alfas to address this your confusion Jesus Christ solicited for the sinners, it is written in the Bible which you are aware of Mr man.. The atrocities of Muhammad can't make him solicited for his father that was roasted in hell fire according to allah |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 1:49pm On Mar 27, 2022 |
Antiislaam:Don’t mind Antichristian the liar, he and his likes lie that everyone is born a Muslim and yet he’s now saying that Abdullah the father of Muhammad is in hellfire because he was not a Muslim |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 3:49pm On Mar 27, 2022 |
advocatejare: The liar is clear between us. Quote the Hadith that says everyone is born a Muslim in full here! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 6:54pm On Mar 27, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Oh. So everyone is not born a muslim again? |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by Antiislaam(m): 4:54am On Mar 28, 2022 |
advocatejare: I was so surprised that Abd Allãh the father of Muhammad a pagan and an idol worshipper that shared same name with allah the god brought by muhammad was not a Muslim whereas Adam, Moses, Noah, Jacob, Abraham, Issac, etc are born as Muslims. I've sent him back home to tell the league of their alfas to address this confusion affecting them in islam |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 6:04am On Mar 28, 2022 |
advocatejare: Where did I say anything about that? You make claims which you later help us deny. I wonder what type of Holy spirit dey run your life. Quote Hadith and you're saying nonsense! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 7:30am On Mar 28, 2022 |
AntiChristian:Stop wailing and answer a simple question: According to Islamic teachings, Is everyone born a muslim or not? |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 7:41am On Mar 28, 2022 |
Antiislaam:Antichristian and his likes including their scholars are liars, they even say that Abdullah had light shining on his head that he transferred to Muhammad: “It was said that a light shone out of his forehead and that this light was the promise of a Prophet as offspring. Many women approached 'Abdullāh, who is reported to have been a handsome man, so that they might gain the honor of producing his offspring. However it is believed that, as decided by God, the light was destined to be transferred to Āminah through 'Abdullāh after consummating the marriage” -Ibn Kathīr The Life of the Prophet Muḥammad : Volume 1. Trans. Prof. Trevor Le Gassick. Garnet Publishing: Lebanon, 1998. ISBN 1-85964-142-3. So it’s not funny that the same Abdullah that had the light on his head that he transferred to Muhammad is the same Abdullah that they now refer to as a pagan who is burning in hellfire! If the transferrer of the light is in hell, no wonder the receiver of the light said that he didn’t know what would be done to him (surah 46:9), he obviously had a hint! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 8:02am On Mar 28, 2022 |
Antiislaam: See chest beating upon error! Seems you are having fun here like this. Alhamdulillah you can't quote any text that Allah is worshipped as an idol. All the jargons you've been peddling are just even illogical. Anyone can bear any name and worship things that is against his name. For example, who is Jesus Barabbas in the Bible? He was a criminal that shared same name with your lord. And that doesn't define him or Jesus! Dey think before you type! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by AntiChristian: 8:28am On Mar 28, 2022 |
advocatejare: You said it before so bring evidence for what you said! Liar! |
| Re: Which God Did Muhammad Serve Before He Became A Prophet? by advocatejare(m): 3:50pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
AntiChristian:I’m not a liar, you’re the one who is deficient in your religion. Muhammad said that everyone is born a muslim Sunan Abi Dawud 4714 Abu Hurairah reported the Messenger of Allah (May peace be upon him) as saying : Every child is born on Islam, but his parents make him a Jew and a Christian, just as a beast is born whole. Do you find some among them (born) maimed? The people asked : Messenger of Allah! What do you think about the one who died while he was young? He replied : Allah knows best what he was going to do. Mishkat al-Masabih 90 Abu Huraira reported God’s messenger as saying, “Everyone is born a Muslim, but his parents make him a Jew, a Christian, or a Magian; just as a beast is born whole. Do you find some among them [born] maimed?” Then he was saying, “God’s pattern on which He formed mankind. There is no alteration of God’s creation. That is the true religion.” So if Abdullah is born a muslim and his parent never made him a Jew or Christian and he was said to have had light on his forehead that he transferred to his wife and then to Muhammad, how come Muhammad said that the same Abdullah is in hellfire? |
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