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Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 6:32pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:See how you treat this issue: it is Ukraine who needs security guarantee from Russia not the other way round. Russia is at least 8 times bigger than Ukraine in EVERYTHING! Ukraine isn't even a nuclear power. Russia doesn't have a single bio-lab abi? Most of you pro Russia sees anyone who doesn't agree with you as pro USA. No sir! In this case, I support only Ukraine. Both USA and Russia want exactly the same thing from Ukraine and that is CONTROL! USA is not a saint in matters like this BUT that doesn't mean one should seek the destruction of Ukraine because you don't like USA's interference. Would you have supported Iraq against Kuwait during the gulf war? Putin gave Ukraine a bad name to justify an invasion: it's the way thinks work. Did Ukraine do anything DIRECTLY against Russia? No! 2 Likes |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 6:36pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:Check out the volume of market and that that flows into the West. Sorry sir. The whole of Africa bought less than 50 armoured tanks and 10 SU-fighter jets from Russia in the last five years. Volume of trade doesn't lie! |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 6:36pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: Go and watch Nato russia summit that took place in germany on youtube 8 years ago ,and listen to what he told them that time,he was always stressing and telling them 8 years ago 1 Like |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 6:39pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: when you buy russian weapons,you get sanctioned ,no african country will want to get sanctioned ,india got sanction for buying s400,any country tat buys s400 get sanctioned.with time the trade improves ,when you are free to deal with countries you like |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 6:39pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:Some of the Baltic States are like Africa (very poor): Ukraine even without Oil and gas is far much richer than even those with oil and gas. Can we agree that: All Putin want is that Ukraine should be like Belarus and then there could be peace. Is the above false? |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 6:44pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: there is what we call Finlandization in finland ,japan are all buffer zones ,japan does not engage in any war or buy ware fare infrastructure ,they signed it with America and America as troops in japan till today ,same in korea ,finland ,sweden all share border and maintain peace |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 6:44pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:No sir. Any country in Africa can buy from Russia. In fact, with respect to military hardwares Nigeria's arsenals come MAINLY from Russia. All our tanks, most of our airframes (except the super tucanos) are from Russia. The problem of Africa is poverty not restrictions from purchase of military Hardwares! |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 6:46pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: they order specific weapon light weapons but not defence systems ,am sure you want to talk about ak47 |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 6:46pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:NATO-Russia summit NOT Russia -Ukraine summit! The issue here is not about NATO and Russia: it is about Ukraine and Russia! |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 6:48pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: go and watch it ,he spoke about nato expansion to the east and to whom th expansion is meant for or against ,they ignored him |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 6:48pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:It is the big guns and big hardwares that bring in the money not AK-47. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by Appleyard(m): 6:51pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: The Ukrainians are the ones blowing bridges, not Russia. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 6:52pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: no african country has s300 how much more s400 ,s500 ,s600, ,any african country with that has power and Europe and America prefers weak Africans and not a strong one.it is the best defence system in the world ,it can detect like 300 attacks on its way and can also give information about the types of weapons near by,sukuo35 helicopter and the rest are not in africa ,very cheap to maintain and low budget good for africa,but they cannot try it. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 6:54pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:No country ever make itself a buffer zone for another nation my dear. Japan signed the non militerization law as a result of their terms of surrender to the USA. Even Germany signed the same law (which has now been relaxed because of their involvement in NATO) Finland and Sweden willingly constitutionally decided to be neutral to any war of their neighbours. (No one compelled them to take such a posture). Should Nigeria decide to be a buffer zone to Cameroon, Niger or Benin Republic? Why would that be a good reason? |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 6:57pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: hypersonic Khinzal, Zircon, Kalibr, Yars ICBMs, Iskander and Sineva ,they are not in africa ,nigeria can afford them |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 6:59pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: its all agreement, is that not normal |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by olas24u(f): 7:03pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
TenQ: Russian TU-22M3,S-32 anti-ship missiles ,supersonic Mach 4.3 with a range of 1,000 km,Mig-31Ks, |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by Appleyard(m): 7:29pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
1stGenAmerican:Read this truth piece, straight from US intelligence experts, not the ediots you have working for the Lamestream media: https://www.newsweek.com/putins-bombers-could-devastate-ukraine-hes-holding-back-heres-why-1690494 Ukraine does not even come close in comparison to Russia in military might and superiority. Most of you are so used to the American shock and awe style of victory (which only ends up killing thousands upon thousands of citizens with whole cities leveled to the ground) as such that you guys find it difficult to come to terms with nations using methodical style of fighting. Oh, so the 134,000 conscripted were sent to Ukraine, or were just being prepared for a worst case scenario vis the NATO threat? If the country decide to give a few real field experience (which honestly I think is unnecessary) is their cup of tea. Glad you admitted that w superpower like the US have also used conscripts in time past against a third-world rated army (Vietnam). In fact, the US have used conscripts 6 times in its history. Fact is, the Russians made mistakes in Ukraine (everyone does) but describing their adventure as a failure or losing the war is not only myopic but delusional. 1 Like |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by Demolakay: 8:01pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
GardenOfGod:ur d mumu here! av u nt heard abt compromise nd retreat bfor during wars? wat did d USA did in Afghanistan? convention? western simpletons! |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by useni1: 8:12pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
1stGenAmerican:so what is bastard America and NATO waiting for? They should enter the war let's see if all their shiithole cities won't be razed to the ground. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 9:11pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:Yes these make money but useless for african market. Countries like Iran may be interested though |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 9:14pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:Exactly this was the initial demand of Russia from Ukraine and no wonder Ukraine refused. Its a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea: Ukraine didn't have much choice. If you were Zelesky, what would have been your response? |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 9:17pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:Nigeria can afford them but it is NOT cost effective to a nation whose major enemy is not her neighbours but Bokoharam. These kind of military hardware also expire with time (you can't keep them for more than 6 years unused, they become unstable and unpredictable) ....not cost efficient at all. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 9:25pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:African countries are not expansionists and thus are generally safe from each other: hence they don't need to invest in long range armaments. Nigeria as a whole may not even have up to 50 working armoured tanks (soldiers complained so much about this in their assault against Bokoharam). Africa is weak because of multi tribal related issues and self induced poverty caused by technological backwardness. We have never been a threat to the western powers because we refused to develop and act sensibly. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 9:28pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
Appleyard:They needed to blow up bridges to slow to slow down the advancement of the superior and the vastly numerous Russian army. It is a standard procedure in a defensive war. And for the Ukrainians, it worked, The bridges can always be repaired but lives are impossible to restore |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 9:29pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
olas24u:NATO-Russia summit NOT Russia -Ukraine summit! Ukraine was NOT expanding to the east. The culprit of eastwards expansion is NATO. Russia should have faced NATO (the violator ) and not Ukraine. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by 1stGenAmerican(f): 2:13am On Apr 03, 2022 |
useni1: It’s not America or the NATO country’s war but I’m curious, who would raze America’s cities to the ground? It’s really funny that you call them shithole cities but I understand that you’re projecting the reality of your surroundings onto other places. Your history shows that you’re really obsessed with America. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by 1stGenAmerican(f): 2:23am On Apr 03, 2022 |
Appleyard: Funny that you cited a Western Media news source that you call propaganda if it doesn’t praise Russia. I live in the US and although I appreciate your futile attempts to teach me US history you really need to channel that passion towards something that’ll benefit you. Since you are praising the fabled but debunked might and superiority of the Russian Army maybe your idol Putin send them to fight the insecurity issues in parts of Nigeria. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by useni1: 4:44am On Apr 03, 2022 |
1stGenAmerican:watch your mouth make them nor go find you do you 404. Jobless dirty thing |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by Appleyard(m): 11:06am On Apr 03, 2022 |
1stGenAmerican: That you live in the US doesn't make you infallible in knowledge. I don't praise the might or superiority of the Russian army; I simply stated the obvious just like those US intelligence experts said in their analysis of the war in Ukraine. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by Appleyard(m): 12:45pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
TenQ: How could you just sit tight and type this outright lie? Or were you honestly being misled? Russia is the largest arm seller to Africa. Algeria alone bought around 200 aircraft items from Russia from 2000 to2019, ranging from transporter helicopters to combat helicopters, bomber and fighter ground aircrafts. Various models of surface-to-air missiles (SAM) that are designed for destroying aircrafts or other missiles have been ordered from Algeria (several orders through 2000-2019), Burkina Faso, Egypt (several orders), Ethiopia, Libya and Morocco. Algeria also ordered tanks (more than 500 items in total), as did Uganda (67 items). As at 2020, Russia's trade volume in Africa amounted to about 14.7 billion dollars, which is even a decrease compared to the figures in 2013 and 2018. So I don't know from where you got your figures. |
Re: Ukrainians Have Retaken Irpin From Russian Invaders by TenQ: 4:19pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
Appleyard:In the last five years!? |
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