Lagos is a major city in the world and we are all know that Lagos is most populated area in Nigeria at any time in a year. With the abundance of water, skilled people, tech savvy businesses and revenues I wonder why Lagos state cannot create its own electricity. The money generated from Lagos can start a project because Lagos state is a revenue making state. If you look at any major city in the world e.g. Shanghai, London, Tokyo, electricity is a constant. For Nigeria to move forward, those who are in power or who are running the affairs of Lagos state should see the bigger picture that constant electricity is good for the nation but Lagos must jumpstart and be the center of excellence like Lagos claim. So my question is what is stopping Lagos from creating a couple of hydroelectric dams, electricity from nuclear and so forth. Scientist in the forum - these question is for you- Is it impossible to create a hydroelectric dam in Lagos Lagoon or is it possible? Politicians in the forum- Why is an impossible task or why is it a possible task. We all pray for a better Nigeria
We are all pray for a better Nigeria but Nigeria cannot improve if the electricity is not constant in all parts. A strong economy will need a constant electricity, I heard some good news that some parts in Nigeria are beginning to have constant electricity. With the upcoming presidential election, a serious presidential should put the electrification of the most major cities in Nigeria as a priority

Lagos state has already initiated the process of producing its own electricity.


As we speak there are almost three electric production plans all undergoing different production phase.

DoctorOlasDesk:
Lagos state has already initiated the process of producing its own electricity.


As we speak there are almost three electric production plans all undergoing different production phase.

Good to hear, hopefully the plans become a reality

The money generated from Lagos yenyenyen........very soon una go talk sey make Lagos carry una go space

cooltola:


Good to hear, hopefully the plans become a reality

It will. I can guarantee it cause I saw detailed schematics on this

Why not have nuclear energy in Nigeria ? this is the least damaging for local resources and health I think . This way Nigeria can even produce energy for other nations

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SolMaximus:
Why not have nuclear energy in Nigeria ? this is the least damaging for local resources and health I think . This way Nigeria can even produce energy for other nations

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I doubt you know the precautions in the use of nuclear energy for electricity generation and how unpracticable it is vis-a-vis its dire consequences for a country like Nigeria.

In few months Aba and 7 LGAs in abia will start having uninterrupted electricity courtsey of their own 141 mw gas power plant, substations and distribution lines

nzeobi:
In few months Aba and 7 LGAs in abia will start having uninterrupted electricity courtsey of their own 141 mw gas power plant, substations and distribution lines

a welcome development- is there any possibility that aba state will able to export to other Eastern states ?

DoctorOlasDesk:



It will. I can guarantee it cause I saw detailed schematics on this

Please can you share such schematics or send a link on a public forum such as nairaland.

cooltola:

a welcome development- is there any possibility that aba state will able to export to other Eastern states ?

It was designed to serve them and will be designed for other SE states by Barth nnaji

As it is today there is no motivation for any state to generate electricity because whatever your state generated would be send to national grid for national use. The implication of this is that such state would not have better electricity than other states who do not invest in it.

However, the law allows individual, corporation and state can generate electricity to meet some peculiar needs such as power plant at Alausa, Unilag and Redeemed Camp.

The right to generate power is in exclusive list of 1999 Constitution and in situation where a state generate more than the above allocated kwh, the excess would be transfer to national grid for national use.

Coming to your concern about Lagos state generating power because of it need and financial buoyancy, Tinubu took the bold step during his first tenure when he embarked on Enron Project in conjunction with Egbin Power Station that presently supply national greed. The frustration experienced by that government made Fashola to narrow his power generation agenda to certain institutions like Secretariat ,Lagos Teaching Hospital and other few sections of the state.

In summary, Nigeria problem largely lies on wicked constitution given to us by the military and supported by the north at the detriment of the entire country. The recent ongoing bill to move power generation, transmission and distribution to the states is yet to reach the 3rd reading at both chambers, passing it at the first reading doesn't mean it would scale through other readings as Nigeria politicians always take national development from the point of ethnic and tribe. Even when it is passed we hope the president would accent it and hope to see him accent a version that has not been watered down by ethnic and corrupt legislators

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/pioneering-role-of-lagos-in-power-projects/75222/

This link may further reveal answers to the OP question

Ttalk:
As it is today there is no motivation for any state to generate electricity because whatever your state generated would be send to national grid for national use. The implication of this is that such state would not have better electricity than other states who do not invest in it.

However, the law allows individual, corporation and state can generate electricity to meet some peculiar needs such as power plant at Alausa, Unilag and Redeemed Camp.

The right to generate power is in exclusive list of 1999 Constitution and in situation where a state generate more than the above allocated kwh, the excess would be transfer to national grid for national use.

It is better not to talk ignorantly in public with so much confidence

First there is a difference between "right" and "power" or "authority"

States or governments have powers not rights

The authority to generate electricity is very different from the authority TO LEGISLATE on electricity

The exclusive list is simply a list of things which THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY has exclusive authority to legislate on. There is nothing anywhere that says states cannot generate electricity even If it were on the exclusive list

HOWEVER THAT CLAIM IS FALSE> IT IS ON THE CONCURRENT LIST AND THIS IS WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS
14. A House of Assembly may make laws for the State with respect to -

(a) electricity and the establishment in that State of electric power stations;

(b) the generation, transmission and distribution of electricity to areas not covered by a national grid system within that State; and

(c) the establishment within that State of any authority for the promotion and management of electric power stations established by the State.


The law in Nigeria today is that if YOU HAVE the capacity and means you can generate electricity . A private business or company can generate electricity, a local government or state government can generate electricity .
All the GENCOs we have in Nigeria today are what Are they government owned?

The only thing is they must do so with the legislative and policy framework authorized by the National Assembly .

However there is a proposed constitutional change to give states even more legislative power

As things stand TODAY. any entity business or subnational government can form a GENCO within the extant framework

Every state suppose generate their own electricity and sell the excess to federal government.

LeoDeKing:
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I doubt you know the precautions in the use of nuclear energy for electricity generation and how unpracticable it is vis-a-vis its dire consequences for a country like Nigeria.

False concerns. Nuclear is in fact the safest form of generating electricity. With the number of nuclear power plants in the world, how many major accidents had been reported? Just 2. Even the Fukushima incident was that was as a result of a tsunami was largely contained and resulted in no direct death.
The Chernobyl disaster is the only devastating nuclear accident in history.

Nuclear power plants have many safety measures.
I also believe that better power plant designs and research can further reduce risks of meltdowns.

wirinet:


False concerns. Nuclear is in fact the safest form of generating electricity. With the number of nuclear power plants in the world, how many major accidents had been reported? Just 2. Even the Fukushima incident was that was as a result of a tsunami was largely contained and resulted in no direct death.
The Chernobyl disaster is the only devastating nuclear accident in history.

Nuclear power plants have many safety measures.
I also believe that better power plant designs and research can further reduce risks of meltdowns.

Rubbish
BY WHAT CRITERIA is it safest

Chernobyl is ENOUGH so when you say ONLY it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about

You say there have been just two major accidents( By what criteria do you DEFINE MAJOR?) Are you the IAEA. There have been several more

The person you quoted stated concerns based on a "country like Nigeria" . That is a very legitimate and valid concern. We do not have the capacity and can only have a plant run by foreigners. That would be a strategic mistake.
Nigeria right now where bandits break into prisons at will is not the place to locate any kind of nuclear activity. We do not have the safety or governance culture for that right now

Lagos state that is surrounded with water but cannot provide water for its citizens

aribisala0:
Rubbish
BY WHAT CRITERIA is it safest

Chernobyl is ENOUGH so when you say ONLY it is clear you have no idea what you are talking about

You say there have been just two major accidents( By what criteria do you DEFINE MAJOR?) Are you the IAEA. There have been several more

The person you quoted stated concerns based on a "country like Nigeria" . That is a very legitimate and valid concern. We do not have the capacity and can only have a plant run by foreigners. That would be a strategic mistake.
Nigeria right now where bandits break into prisons at will is not the place to locate any kind of nuclear activity. We do not have the safety or governance culture for that right now

No need of getting emotional, the statistics speak for itself. See the picture below.

Yes there had been many minor accidents (about 97 in number) like radiation leaks and minor fires, but there had only been two major accidents, by major accidents I mean reactor meltdowns and explosion.

Mind you, there are 441 nuclear reactors in the world today and nuclear reactors had been used to generate electricity since 1952. This cannot be compared to accidents in other types of power plants. A hydro dam accident is devastating. Gas power plant accidents wont even make the news as it happens everyday.

wirinet:


No need of getting emotional, the statistics speak for itself. See the picture below.

Yes there had been many minor accidents (about 97 in number) like radiation leaks and minor fires, but there had only been two major accidents, by major accidents I mean reactor meltdowns and explosion.

Mind you, there are 441 nuclear reactors in the world today and nuclear reactors had been used to generate electricity since 1952. This cannot be compared to accidents in other types of power plants. A hydro dam accident is devastating. Gas power plant accidents wont even make the news as it happens everyday.

Yes no need to get emotional so don't.
I asked you questions?

It is not down to YOU to define what is minor. Radiation leaks are NOT MINOR ACCIDENTS .They kill people who have not yet been born.. The concern is environmental impact when radioactive material enters the ocean and other ecosystems far away from the site with impact for centuries

The key issue is whether Nigeria has the competence we DO NOT
We do not have basic fire stations to put out simple fires in markets
I mentioned our security challenges now with terrorism those are the issues not some pseudo-statistical sleight of hand. The number of road accidents is not a direct function of the number of cars on the road but the underlying culture down to who gets a driving licence and HOW.
All countries are not the same
So you cannot just say there are X number of nuclear plants around the world and conclude that safety is the same in each country. We are not ready for that in Nigeria

I do not know if you were even born when Chernobyl happened. One is enough

An area of 1000 square kilometres was sealed off as an exclusion zone still in force now

huptin:
Lagos state that is surrounded with water but cannot provide water for its citizens

if you are talking about fresh water , then Lagos state should be able to produce water , I am not sure if the Lagos Lagoon is too salty to drink. But a water treatment plant on a large scale can only happen if Lagos can produce constant electricity. Most of the water purification machine use electricity a lot. I do not know even if the Lagos state government have plans to do such projects

Ttalk:
As it is today there is no motivation for any state to generate electricity because whatever your state generated would be send to national grid for national use. The implication of this is that such state would not have better electricity than other states who do not invest in it.

However, the law allows individual, corporation and state can generate electricity to meet some peculiar needs such as power plant at Alausa, Unilag and Redeemed Camp.

The right to generate power is in exclusive list of 1999 Constitution and in situation where a state generate more than the above allocated kwh, the excess would be transfer to national grid for national use.

Coming to your concern about Lagos state generating power because of it need and financial buoyancy, Tinubu took the bold step during his first tenure when he embarked on Enron Project in conjunction with Egbin Power Station that presently supply national greed. The frustration experienced by that government made Fashola to narrow his power generation agenda to certain institutions like Secretariat ,Lagos Teaching Hospital and other few sections of the state.

In summary, Nigeria problem largely lies on wicked constitution given to us by the military and supported by the north at the detriment of the entire country. The recent ongoing bill to move power generation, transmission and distribution to the states is yet to reach the 3rd reading at both chambers, passing it at the first reading doesn't mean it would scale through other readings as Nigeria politicians always take national development from the point of ethnic and tribe. Even when it is passed we hope the president would accent it and hope to see him accent a version that has not been watered down by ethnic and corrupt legislators

Thank you very much Sir for your input, at least they should try.

aribisala0:


It is better not to talk ignorantly in public with so much confidence

First there is a difference between "right" and "power" or "authority"

States or governments have powers not rights

The authority to generate electricity is very different from the authority TO LEGISLATE on electricity

The exclusive list is simply a list of things which THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY has exclusive authority to legislate on. There is nothing anywhere that says states cannot generate electricity even If it were on the exclusive list

HOWEVER THAT CLAIM IS FALSE> IT IS ON THE CONCURRENT LIST AND THIS IS WHAT THE CONSTITUTION SAYS
14. A House of Assembly may make laws for the State with respect to -

(a) electricity and the establishment in that State of electric power stations;

(b) the generation, transmission and distribution of electricity to areas not covered by a national grid system within that State; and

(c) the establishment within that State of any authority for the promotion and management of electric power stations established by the State.


The law in Nigeria today is that if YOU HAVE the capacity and means you can generate electricity . A private business or company can generate electricity, a local government or state government can generate electricity .
All the GENCOs we have in Nigeria today are what Are they government owned?

The only thing is they must do so with the legislative and policy framework authorized by the National Assembly .

However there is a proposed constitutional change to give states even more legislative power

As things stand TODAY. any entity business or subnational government can form a GENCO within the extant framework

Excellent point Sir

DoctorOlasDesk:
Lagos state has already initiated the process of producing its own electricity.


As we speak there are almost three electric production plans all undergoing different production phase.

Yeah. I listened to the Commissioner for Power earlier in the year and their plans were impressive. They had legal hurdles to overcome before going full throttle this year. It should come onboard before Sanwo-Olu's 2nd term. We can't wait!

Siwel25:


Yeah. I listened to the Commissioner for Power earlier in the year and their plans were impressive. They had legal hurdles to overcome before going full throttle this year. It should come onboard before Sanwo-Olu's 2nd term. We can't wait!

We cannot wait, the suffering is too much.