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Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity by selfemployed(m): 5:56pm On Apr 10, 2022
Re: Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity by Nobody: 5:58pm On Apr 10, 2022
selfemployed:
Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity

Not the Church. Just the false ones.
Re: Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity by selfemployed(m): 6:01pm On Apr 10, 2022
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/education/at-least-200-people-were-enslaved-by-the-jesuits-in-st-louis-descendants-are-now-telling-their-stories

At least 70 people were enslaved by the Jesuits in St. Louis. Descendants are now telling their stories

By — Gabrielle Hays
Education Updated on Mar 31, 2022 5:58 PM EDT — Published on Dec 8, 2021 6:02 PM EDT
Correction: The original version of this story used an estimate for the number of enslaved people in St. Louis provided by the Slavery, History, Memory and Reconciliation Project. After this story was published, the project clarified that the number it provided captured the number of people enslaved across the Missouri Province, which includes not only the city of St. Louis but also other states, including Louisiana, Kentucky, Alabama, Illinois and Kansas, and smaller parts of others. We've updated the story to reflect that distinction, and also add a number specific to the number of enslaved people in the city of St. Louis based on research from Dr. Kelly Schmidt, postdoctoral research associate at Washington University. The headline has also been changed to reflect this number. These updates provide a more accurate range of people known to be enslaved by the Jesuits in this area. These numbers will continue to change over time as research continues and we will continue to update this story accordingly.

ST. LOUIS – Against their wills, Thomas and Mary Brown, Moses and Nancy Queen, and Isaac and Susan Hawkins were taken from a White Marsh, Maryland, plantation in 1823, forced to leave their families and children 800 miles behind to help the Jesuits in their founding of the Missouri Mission.

Enslaved people were essential to what Jesuit institutions in St. Louis would become. The Jesuits moved another 16 to 18 enslaved people to St. Louis from Maryland in 1829, the same year the Society of Jesus took over St. Louis College, known today as St. Louis University.

Nearly 200 years later, descendants of people the Jesuits enslaved are learning and reclaiming the stories of their ancestors and pushing the institutions around them to tell a complete story, one that includes their families and the harm that was done.

"I believe souls can't rest until fundamental wrongs are done right," said Rashonda Alexander, one of the descendants.

"I believe souls can't rest until fundamental wrongs are done right," said Rashonda Alexander, one of the descendants.
Alexander is a descendant of Jack and Sally Queen, who were a part of that second group that relocated to St. Louis. Up until 2020, Alexander, like many Black Americans, was not able to trace her family earlier than a certain point in time.

"I kept hitting a brick wall with my great-great-grandfather," she said. After years of searching, a visit from a stranger would bring her many of the answers she was seeking.

"A reporter knocked on my door, at the house, and he said, 'I believe that you are a descendant of persons owned by the Jesuits.'"

For Alexander, this revelation inspired more investigation. She not only now knew she was a descendant of enslaved people owned by Jesuits; she also had to reckon with her own history as a 2002 graduate of St. Louis University – which benefited from owning human chattel, including her ancestors.

"I attended the university my ancestors built for free," said Alexander, who also identifies as a "cradle catholic," essentially meaning she had practiced the Catholic faith since birth. "I kept thinking, 'Are we walking on their bones?', 'Are we walking on their blood?', 'Did I walk past somewhere where they were beaten?'"

Across the country, other people have come to discover and question the church's role in their families' stories, as the Society of Jesus, a Roman Catholic order of priests and brothers, and affiliated organizations inside and outside of St. Louis have started to examine its history more closely.

Some institutions have launched research initiatives to explore their beginnings more deeply, while others have created foundations to further the work. Still, some descendants say, there is more work to be done; acknowledgement is only the beginning
Re: Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity by selfemployed(m): 6:09pm On Apr 10, 2022
https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-14/selling-forgiveness-how-money-sparked-protestant.html

Selling Forgiveness: How Money Sparked the Protestant Reformation
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Nowadays the papers might call it ‘Indulgence-gate’, but at the time corruption was common in the church’s highest offices. Leo X was Pope in Rome, a member of the high-living de Medici family. He dished out bishoprics to his favorite relatives and tapped the Vatican treasury to support his extravagant lifestyle. When the money ran out, he made use of a fairly new fundraising scheme—selling forgiveness of sins. For a fee, bereaved relatives could get a deceased loved one out of Purgatory. At the right price, they could also save up for their own future sins—sort of a spiritual IRA. Indulgences, they called them.

Meanwhile, in Germany, Albert of Brandenburg was a young professional on the fast track of church success. At age 23, he was archbishop of Magdeburg and administrator of Halberstadt. It was against canon law to hold more than one office, but everyone was doing it. It was a great way to play politics. So when the archbishopric of Mainz became available, Prince Albert sought to add a third office to his resume—this the most politically powerful of all. The problem was, Albert was low on cash. Seems he had spent his liquid assets in getting the posts he already held, and Pope Leo was asking a colossal sum to consider him for the job in Mainz. The normal strategy, passing the cost on to the common folk in the form of taxes or fees, was impractical, since Mainz had gone through four archbishops in ten years and was nearly bankrupt from supporting all those pay-offs. But Albert had a good credit rating, and was able to borrow from the bank of Jacob Fugger, an Austrian merchant who was the money mogul of Europe at the time. How to pay back the loan? Indulgences. Pope Leo authorized the sale of indulgences in Germany, with ...
Re: Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity by immortalcrown(m): 6:15pm On Apr 10, 2022
To balance this judgment, how many of the things the Church got right ages ago do you properly maintain today?

The Church might have laid the foundations for some bad things happening today. But what about the good foundations the Church laid and we have rejected those foundations? What about the good things the church preaches now and we refuse to do those things?

The Church has repented from most or all its past atrocities. The Church is now against greed, treachery, sexual immorality, ritual killing of humans and etcetera. But the youths of today are doing these things.

This post is similar to what African youths of today say. The youths say their forefathers were stupid for being deceived by colonizers. But the same youths are bleaching their skins. You are currently doing the same things your forefathers did and you sound as if you are wiser than your forefathers.
Re: Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity by selfemployed(m): 6:27pm On Apr 10, 2022
immortalcrown:
To balance this judgment, how many of the things the Church got right ages ago do you properly maintain today?

Let the leaders apologize for the things they got wrong first
Re: Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity by xproducer: 6:39pm On Apr 10, 2022
"The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being examples to the flock." - 1 Peter 5:1-3 (Also 1 Samuel 8:3, 1 Timothy 3:3-8 and Titus 1:7-11)

Lucre = "monetary gain : profit; also : money."

"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" - 1 Peter 4:17-18
Re: Why The Church Should Apologize To Humanity by Dtruthspeaker: 10:27pm On Apr 10, 2022
selfemployed:
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At least 70 people were enslaved by the Jesuits in St. Louis. Descendants are now telling their stories...

No different from todays slavery by banks, private companies, Universities, one man business, marriage etc

So before Roman church, people have already been very evil!

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