Time don reach for another thing

samuelgodson:
Russia's actions only brought NATO closer

so after everybody joins NATO who will be their enemy...USA have always project Russia as the bad dog cos of the cold war and I can recall sometimes in 2008 Russia want to join NATO and was rejected cos USA see them as a only equal threat but without someone to fight then NATO seem useless

Biodun556:


Russia action brought NATO closer to destroy Europe

Don’t mind them, US sit on another continent to make decisions while Europe burn

Cmanforall:

Putin should not take more than he can chew

He is chewing and swallowing quickly. Once he crosses Mariupol he’ll gather momentum and start gobbling up the smaller countries and it will be time for Ekpa to look for another country! He will get to know who really is a Finn. Ask Nigerians who thought they were Ukrainian!

Kingsnairaland:
EU fell right into US trap!
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.

The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.

All of the hysterical war propaganda is created with the intention of manufacturing a crisis that can be used to isolate, demonize and, ultimately, splinter Russia into smaller units. The real target, however, is not Russia, but Germany. Check out this excerpt from an article by Michael Hudson at The Unz Review:

“The only way left for U.S. diplomats to block European purchases is to goad Russia into a military response and then claim that avenging this response outweighs any purely national economic interest. As hawkish Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, explained in a State Department press briefing on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” (“America’s Real Adversaries Are Its European and Other Allies”, The Unz Review)

There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi

Thunder strike you down for this copy and paste.

Russia's actions were the reason Ukraine wanted to join NATO. Scaring people and asking them not to seek help is preposterous.

Botlord:

Having ties with Russia is the main reason Ukraine is still standing, Russia is taking them with kid glove... There are many ethnic Russia in Ukraine which is making it difficult to do some high level attack but that won't applies to Sweden and Finland...

I hope someone tell them this, I don't want to hear Russia is destroying Finland or Sweden later...

With both countries having a population of less than 17 million and land mass a little above Ukraine's, I hope someone is advising them thoughtfully... Bombing them to Oblivion will be a walk over, don't poke sleeping Lion...

#Advice
Ciao

Nairaland war analyst. Una weldone o.

Kingsnairaland:
EU fell right into US trap!
The Ukrainian crisis has nothing to do with Ukraine. It’s about Germany and, in particular, a pipeline that connects Germany to Russia called Nord Stream 2. Washington sees the pipeline as a threat to its primacy in Europe and has tried to sabotage the project at every turn. Even so, Nord Stream has pushed ahead and is now fully-operational and ready-to-go. Once German regulators provide the final certification, the gas deliveries will begin. German homeowners and businesses will have a reliable source of clean and inexpensive energy while Russia will see a significant boost to their gas revenues. It’s a win-win situation for both parties.

The US Foreign Policy establishment is not happy about these developments. They don’t want Germany to become more dependent on Russian gas because commerce builds trust and trust leads to the expansion of trade. As relations grow warmer, more trade barriers are lifted, regulations are eased, travel and tourism increase, and a new security architecture evolves. In a world where Germany and Russia are friends and trading partners, there is no need for US military bases, no need for expensive US-made weapons and missile systems, and no need for NATO. There’s also no need to transact energy deals in US Dollars or to stockpile US Treasuries to balance accounts. Transactions between business partners can be conducted in their own currencies which is bound to precipitate a sharp decline in the value of the dollar and a dramatic shift in economic power. This is why the Biden administration opposes Nord Stream. It’s not just a pipeline, it’s a window into the future; a future in which Europe and Asia are drawn closer together into a massive free trade zone that increases their mutual power and prosperity while leaving the US on the outside looking in. Warmer relations between Germany and Russia signal an end to the “unipolar” world order the US has overseen for the last 75 years. A German-Russo alliance threatens to hasten the decline of the Superpower that is presently inching closer to the abyss. This is why Washington is determined to do everything it can to sabotage Nord Stream and keep Germany within its orbit. It’s a matter of survival.

That’s where Ukraine comes into the picture. Ukraine is Washington’s ‘weapon of choice’ for torpedoing Nord Stream and putting a wedge between Germany and Russia. The strategy is taken from page one of the US Foreign Policy Handbook under the rubric: Divide and Rule. Washington needs to create the perception that Russia poses a security threat to Europe. That’s the goal. They need to show that Putin is a bloodthirsty aggressor with a hair-trigger temper who cannot be trusted. To that end, the media has been given the assignment of reiterating over and over again, “Russia is planning to invade Ukraine.” What’s left unsaid is that Russia has not invaded any country since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, and that the US has invaded or toppled regimes in more than 50 countries in the same period of time, and that the US maintains over 800 military bases in countries around the world. None of this is reported by the media, instead the focus is on “evil Putin” who has amassed an estimated 100,000 troops along the Ukrainian border threatening to plunge all of Europe into another bloody war.

All of the hysterical war propaganda is created with the intention of manufacturing a crisis that can be used to isolate, demonize and, ultimately, splinter Russia into smaller units. The real target, however, is not Russia, but Germany. Check out this excerpt from an article by Michael Hudson at The Unz Review:

“The only way left for U.S. diplomats to block European purchases is to goad Russia into a military response and then claim that avenging this response outweighs any purely national economic interest. As hawkish Under-Secretary of State for Political Affairs, Victoria Nuland, explained in a State Department press briefing on January 27: “If Russia invades Ukraine one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.” (“America’s Real Adversaries Are Its European and Other Allies”, The Unz Review)

There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi

Your write-up is too skewed in one direction and also have lots of false narrative but will just point out @bolded

The link shows Russian invassion post Soviet Union and a total false narrative as you have asserted a above .

It's necessary to dish out accurate information while educating the public

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion

Elvictor:
Please join.

I love it, Europe should destroy itself, let them feel the brute of suffering they inflicted on Africans.

What a miserable soul. I pray you heal.
Are they responsible for Ganduje awarding 110M naira road rehabilitation contract to a non-existing company?
Did they elect legislators that requires a reasonable fraction of your annual budget to run? Clueless politicians worshipped by folks like you, politicians who steal and do all it takes to impoverish the people they are supposed to lead.
The west have their ish......but Africa is a major cause of their present day reality.
EU will heal, they are smart, not selfish and they are logical in their reasoning.
Face your internal maladies and leave EU to sort themselves out.

Biodun556:


Let them join and keep sacrificing themselves to US stupidity

What is the business of the United States in this.
C'mon, elevate your thinking.

chronique:
Let's see what the outcome is but I hope they don't join. It would not be a good thing to see another Ukraine happen to both countries.

That is the best thing for to join of not they will leave under a dictatorship government all their life and their is no way Russia caan defect nato

Botlord:

Having ties with Russia is the main reason Ukraine is still standing, Russia is taking them with kid glove... There are many ethnic Russia in Ukraine which is making it difficult to do some high level attack but that won't applies to Sweden and Finland...

I hope someone tell them this, I don't want to hear Russia is destroying Finland or Sweden later...

With both countries having a population of less than 17 million and land mass a little above Ukraine's, I hope someone is advising them thoughtfully... Bombing them to Oblivion will be a walk over, don't poke sleeping Lion...

#Advice
Ciao

Your points are pointless

What happens if Russia joins NATO?

chronique:
Let's see what the outcome is but I hope they don't join. It would not be a good thing to see another Ukraine happen to both countries.

So you believe after they join NATO Putin will attack them..
You are in dream Land, Putin ain't stupid to attack NATO country

sanpipita:


We warned but they say Putin knows it all, Putin has succeeded in making Russia like Nazi Germany that was isolated, lots nations will take their chance with NATO and USA than Russia.

Once again.
It is not USA's business.
NATO was not formed to protect the United States.

NATO was formed first of all to unify the militaries of western Europe so that incidents of the second world war will no longer be possible and secondly to counter the threat from the Soviet Union.

The United States can take care of itself.
If the threat from 'the East' is now being rekindled it is up to countries of Europe to unify against it,

The United States does not have to go around 'persuading' countries to join for the situation right now is clear. Russia is a totalitarian regime that can threaten without cause and act without notice whether 'provoked' or not. Just like Nazi Germany invaded Poland, Austria and Czechoslovakia without warning, Finland knows its history and will preempt any involuntary action by Russia.

Once again. Russia is not a democracy so is not predictable. No one likes unpredictable, dangerous neighbors.

Good, Putin has shut himself in the hands, Putin has been shouting that NATO is expanding close to it's borders, but when you start behaving aggressively against your smaller neighbours they will seek protection..
All the things Putin feared are all coming, NATO is more united, country like Germany has started rearmament, they also increase their defense spending, adede two battle groups in eastern Europe and now two Finland and Sweden will join NATO all because a mad man wants to flex it power.

Original slay Queens prime ministers of Finland and Sweden

Biodun556:


Let them join and keep sacrificing themselves to US stupidity

Exactly.Russia and China are the reason,the stupid US hasn't been able to dominate and exploit the entire world

Putin would launch an attack on Finland ��.

Botlord:

Having ties with Russia is the main reason Ukraine is still standing, Russia is taking them with kid glove... There are many ethnic Russia in Ukraine which is making it difficult to do some high level attack but that won't applies to Sweden and Finland...

I hope someone tell them this, I don't want to hear Russia is destroying Finland or Sweden later...

With both countries having a population of less than 17 million and land mass a little above Ukraine's, I hope someone is advising them thoughtfully... Bombing them to Oblivion will be a walk over, don't poke sleeping Lion...

#Advice
Ciao

So you believe that if Finland and Sweden were to join NATO Putin will attack them

Botlord:

Having ties with Russia is the main reason Ukraine is still standing, Russia is taking them with kid glove... There are many ethnic Russia in Ukraine which is making it difficult to do some high level attack but that won't applies to Sweden and Finland...

I hope someone tell them this, I don't want to hear Russia is destroying Finland or Sweden later...

With both countries having a population of less than 17 million and land mass a little above Ukraine's, I hope someone is advising them thoughtfully... Bombing them to Oblivion will be a walk over, don't poke sleeping Lion...

#Advice
Ciao

Russia is being held by Ukraine and struggling with staggering casualties. Not on their life will they try anything with Finland and Sweden, especially when they join NATO.

Attack them as NATO members and their forces outside Russia will be wiped out.

samuelgodson:
Russia's actions only brought NATO closer

Exactly.

Z

Not true, this is the best time to join NATO as Russia can't sustain two wars at once.

chronique:
Let's see what the outcome is but I hope they don't join. It would not be a good thing to see another Ukraine happen to both countries.

Botlord:

Ok we'll see...
I just pity Finland and Sweden, whoever is advicing them is not wishing them good...

Some of you talk like illiterates. So you mean countries as big and technologically-advanced as Finland and Sweden don't have sophisticated militaries to defend themselves and also inflict maximum damage on the enemy? Is it the same Russia that is still struggling with Ukraine that will now add two more advanced countries to their woes? It seems you don't like the progress of Russia; you want to see Russia destroyed!

chronique:
Let's see what the outcome is but I hope they don't join. It would not be a good thing to see another Ukraine happen to both countries.

nothing will happen, Russian will fall last, better WW lll start so our politicians will sit at home for once so internal war will get to them too

Botlord:

Having ties with Russia is the main reason Ukraine is still standing, Russia is taking them with kid glove... There are many ethnic Russia in Ukraine which is making it difficult to do some high level attack but that won't applies to Sweden and Finland...

I hope someone tell them this, I don't want to hear Russia is destroying Finland or Sweden later...

With both countries having a population of less than 17 million and land mass a little above Ukraine's, I hope someone is advising them thoughtfully... Bombing them to Oblivion will be a walk over, don't poke sleeping Lion...

#Advice
Ciao

Do you know what happened during winter war? You guys over-rating Russia and under-rating nordic nations of sweden and Finland. You are even underating Ukraine because you have not taken time to know history of Ukraine.

chronique:
Let's see what the outcome is but I hope they don't join. It would not be a good thing to see another Ukraine happen to both countries.

What will happen if Russia even decides to join NATO?

Just thinking....

Elvictor:
Please join.

I love it, Europe should destroy itself, let them feel the brute of suffering they inflicted on Africans.

And what about the sufferings Africans inflict on same Africans?
no face your business

There it is in black and white. The Biden team wants to “goad Russia into a military response” in order to sabotage NordStream. That implies there will be some kind of provocation designed to induce Putin to send his troops across the border to defend the ethnic Russians in the eastern part of the country. If Putin takes the bait, the response would be swift and harsh. The media will excoriate the action as a threat to all of Europe while leaders around the world will denounce Putin as the “new Hitler”. This is Washington’s strategy in a nutshell, and the whole production is being orchestrated with one goal in mind; to make it politically impossible for the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to wave NordStream through the final approval process. Hi[/quote]
I like the school of thought explained out here, but Russia has never helped matters, her panic modes has only straightened the feared deterrence in Europe and I saw it coming is he going to win Europe by guns, or improve her diplomatic tools, nobody will dare fire at Russia first if Russia didn't shoot a bullet, she played into their hands ,the economic tool could topple NATO alliance if she had persisted on such ties that testing guns and public threats that only got scared neighbors and mistrust from potential partners ,only distant countries won't panic and mistrust Russia , so nobody can help Putin nearby Russia has made that great blunder even her rank of military knows and some citizens are becoming worried too ,the best thing is to end the war there and talk to her neighbors that's the only way her gas is a good diplomatic tool not the guns!

Finland on Google map