Tinubu can't beat Osinbajo in primaries, though he is ready to spend money to opress but it won't work

dedonfranco:
It will be difficult for Osinbajo to beat Tinubu in APC primary.

Tinubu has a political structure of over 25 years

Osinbajo is a VC president of Nigeria (Federal)

Every giant has a time to fall.

Tinubu is a rejected entity. He is a crook, the masses will always choose Osinbajo over Tinubu. Tinubu should forget about the
presidency. I can never vote for Tinubu.

Tinubu's structure is a broken hope. Now he's struggling in Lagos; Ondo, Ekiti, and Oyo are not his. Ogun has been taken away. Osun is also divided. So where is the structure?

LeoDeKing:
Tinubu oh, Osinbajo oh, anyone who emerges as the flagbearer will get 100% support from Nigerians.

What Nigerians don't want to see on the ballot is Emeka. 

Lol or obi

treatise:


That's why CONSENSUS is on the card.

Sorry, no consensus in APC constitution
for the primary.

Aufbauh:
Seriously I don't know why people can't decode that Prof. Yemi Osinbajo was the 'closet candidate' of PMB.

The gut & courage of Osinbajo to openly challenge his erstwhile benefactor can only be motivated by a mortal superior power backing, who is Mr. President.
No one else could have prompted him out for this challenge, not even an audible voice from God. This is why Osinbajo shouldn't be underrated in this contest.

It is also important to note that the political dynamics of 2023 will be entirely different from 2019. This time around PMB will be interested in who succeeds him. He has already shown that through the election of the APC national executives.

The Nigeria leadership factor shouldn't be wished away. We've already concluded that all Nigeria politicians are the same so, PMB may equally be tempted to play god. That means that PMB to a large extent he'll play pertinent role in who emerges. We should not also forget that he will still remain the president after the primaries for couple of months, so it'll be extremely difficult for governors especially from the north to go against his wish.

Again much is always said about political structure but we shouldn't forget that 'structure' can be built, inherited and bought.

Conclusively this is politics and anything can happen to change the balance of power. One meeting of like minds with Mr President can send BAT to oblivion.

"Absolute power does not only corrupt but attract the corruptible"- Frank Herbert

Tinubu strategy to woo the majority of the delegates is surely going to beat Osinbajo who is expecting sympathetic votes from delegates.
But everyone should tell Tinubu to play by the rules and stop intimidating Lagos APC members to stone the VP literally by their stance.

Ttalk:


If you were Buhari and you listen to this boasting of which he or his lieutenant must have heard, how will you take it?

Look Obasanjo has set the precedence by choosing a northerner of his choice, why expecting anything less from Buhari, after all Tinubu has been choosing the governor of Lagos since he left

Referring to the highlighted, BAT respected GMB that is why he was the first person he publicly relayed his ambition to but if GMB wants to pay goodness with betrayal, he can go ahead, he will soon be render useless politically afterall he knows little or nothing about politics.

Interesting take, but let's see how it goes

Whoever floors each other will be floored my Nigerians. ANYTHING APC, DEATH, KIDNAPPINGS & TERRORISM WILL NO LONGER BE TOLERATED BY NIGERIANS

PassingShot:

Osinbajo will be taught a classic political lesson.

You are getting ahead of yourself.
There are only two outcomes, he wins or lose.
If he loses, he has really lost nothing if he didn't declare in the first place.

Also, you assume that an Osinbajo primary loss is automatically Tinubu's win,
that shows your level of political understanding. Both may end up losing out.

subsidywise18:


Quoting you again to tell you why I have never supported PDP or APC since 2003 when I cast my first vote.

Both parties basically have no idea of how Nigeria should be led. We are a country that relies on one source of income, and we need to change that fast.

But every year, both parties parrot the same old lines. We will dash Nigerians money, we would build this project or that project. Meanwhile we are getting into debt to the tune of trillions, worsened by our trying to do a million things with one source of income. We keep on paying for subsides on everything, and we keep on doing the same thing over and over again...because we are poor and we don't want to suffer.


People like you don't want change. You will complain about bad government, and then on election day tell me to vote for the same people who bring bad government.?

No wonder Nigeria never changes.

My dear subsidywise18. I have gone through your writeup and I want to believe you're educated enough to read in between lines from my response to your initial comment. Insulting me as "people like me wouldn't want change" is totally unacceptable which lacks courtesy.

That as it may, you have not taken your time to read not digest my writeup which might have ignited your hasty generalization without indept knowledge of a subject matter is tantamount to fallacy.

Secondly, let's assume we got a handful of well educated technocrats as you out it, our present constitution doesn't allow for banning semi educated people at the corridors of power. How many of those technocrats get involved in politics at both the local levels and at the federal level. Most say politics is a dirty game while others say they are thorough professionals. The sad thing is that mist of those you're looking up to are more corrupt than these politicians . they are also the ones that become politicians and aid and abate criminality through the education their acquired. Most times they help to refine and reposition lies and propaganda to suite political stages and events.

Look at the integrity of those most presidents put in charge of their media teams before and after they join government, they end up worse. A typical Ngige will also join doctors strike action if he was a serving medical Practitioner, but look at him now.

The ones you see still shouting now have not had their day with government and you can still understand them the way they talk now.

Secondly, I spoke about money. If you must do politics in Nigeria and anywhere in the world, you need money. For logistics, feeding , accommodation, transport, honorariums etc. Where on planet earth do you think a right thinking technocrats will muscle that kind of money from ? From his sweat or where? The truth is that they spend the money the way they do because they will make the money back any how they care to.

Lastly before I stop ,may I quickly remind you that no matter how sound you're, if you don't have any political structure or base to operate on , you will fail woefully. Donald Trump had to move on the platform of the Republicans and he made it up with his money. Buhari needed a cross country structure before he could get to power. He joined with nPDP, ACN, APGA, CPC ETC before he could become president.

These political structures have been embedded in wards, local government areas and states . they attend meetings religiously and they choose who represents them . the different structures, different parties , different constitution : same people

Bye

PassingShot:

A proud Muslim for that matter.

A proud Yoruba too.

Gerrat

Tinubu's major hurdle is that neither is Buhari neutral nor will free and fair primary election hold in the APC.

PassingShot:
I read a NL thread https://www.nairaland.com/7077990/why-tinubu-lose-osinbajo-apc#up suggesting reasons why PYO will defeat BAT in the APC primary election to select who flies the ticket of the party in 2023 and I could not help but to laugh at the naivety and desperation of the writer. Well, without paying any attention to the weak and unfounded reasons he presented in his article, I make bold to advance the following arguments to conclude that Jagaban Borgu remains the only candidate who will win the primary contest, barring any last-minute jettisoning of primaries for consensus which is not even contained in the constitution of APC.

1. Tinubu’s political structure and machineries
Even, his political foes will attest to the fact that BAT has built a well-oiled political structure that has not only survived the best of political warriors in OBJ and GEJ (with federal might), his structure has endured the worst of political earthquake and has remained very solid and functioning. In the primary contest for the presidential candidate which will be decided by delegates from APC across the 36 states, Tinubu structure will come in hand to deliver the goods.

2. BAT’s political alliance
This is somewhat related to the first point but not entirely the same. In the course of single-handedly building and strengthening his political base (ACN), Tinubu it was who took ACN into alliance with CPC, ANPP, a faction of APGA and a faction of PDP. In fact, most political watchers agreed that the 2 most important figures in that successful alliance that produced APC are Buhari and Tinubu. The rest were only needed to make up the numbers and the spread. BAT has since that alliance built a working relationship with strong politicians in the north. The likes of Ganduje, Ribadu, Ado Dogawa, Ahmed Lawan, etc. are staunch Tinubu’s supporters who will deliver the delegates from that side of the country.

3. Neutrality of PMB
PMB remains a political juggernaut whose support and influence can, to some extent determine who wins the APC ticket. From what I have read and heard, it was this support that Osinbajo was looking for that delayed his declaration. Unfortunately for him, PMB did not assure him of anything, instead preferring to be neutral and asking all the contestants to work hard to win the ticket. While it is possible for PMB to have a preference for PYO (highly doubtful), Buhari has demonstrated many times that he handles situations like this with utmost maturity and fairness to all involved. If he has forgotten how BAT deployed his resources to make him defeat Atiku and Kwankwaso in 2014 and to win the presidency in 2015 and 2019, he will surely be reminded by his close allies like Ganduje and the Senate President of this fact. And Buhari will choose to remain neutral. It is PYO who needs PMB so much and not the other way round.

4. Clear message of endorsement by the APC Senate and Rep Caucuses
Not many watchers of political development will have missed the enormous support Tinubu enjoys from the APC senators and representatives. They are not hiding it and they have been saying it loud and clear even to the hearing of PYO. You only need to watch the Senate session when BAT paid the APC caucus a visit to intimate them of his ambition. You can also listen to Ado Doguwa’s recent interview on the same subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqe6AQllcPA and here https://www.nairaland.com/7079123/doguwa-speaks-bola-tinubus-aspiration. I also read that of the seventy-something invited by PYO for Iftar, only 24 or so honored the invitation with majority of them spotting facemask with BAT logo. These speak volume about their position. They are the people that matter in this election and they are not politicians you can intimidate to change their mind. They believe in BAT and they are ready to reward his past support for them too.

5. Osinbajo has no political structure
After seven years of being the VP of Nigeria, it is a fact that PYO has no political base or structure of note with which he can be guaranteed of delegates votes. This is someone who lost his polling booth in the last general election. Irrespective of whatever sentiment anyone in the party top hierarchy may want to have for a PYO candidacy, they will realize what a dangerous option his candidacy represents for their party and they will bury the thought without wasting time.

6. Perception of PYO as someone who cannot be trusted
Like it or not, Osinbajo’s declaration has portrayed him as someone who cannot be relied upon. In politics, the currency is loyalty and anyone who is perceived as not loyal is usually avoided by those who matter. Even among those currently propping the professor on, there are those who will be murmuring within their heart that the VP cannot be trusted not to betray them at some point, especially if he becomes president and thus untouchable. I will personally be weary of such character too. Yes, he has the constitutional right to contest but he has thrown morality to the dustbin by standing up to challenge his one-time political mentor. I read a piece about how Tiinubu reluctantly agreed for Osinbajo to be the running mate to PMB out of the three names suggested to him. The fact that BAT’s choice was still going to be picked and that he eventually agreed to PYO being named as the running mate is enough for our erstwhile star boy to abandon his ambition for BAT’s.

Anyway, let’s see how far the support of sycophants and traducers of Tinubu can carry him in his quest to wrestle APC’s ticket from Jagaban.

Passingshot (O.S. Olayiwola)

For the first time in nairaland


1000%


Except Buhari imposed on delagates

ipobarecriminals:
u and ur worthless father will die like ant.May Dangote trailer kill both join.

na okada go kill your remaining family .. cause you papa don die like dis .. RIP

Tinubu helped many into Nass ,Aso rock and Governors but he cannot control agberos,this is a serious nightmare and cancarworm for him.

PassingShot:

Sorry, no consensus in APC constitution
for the primary.

The provision is in the Nigerian constitution, let's wait and see. Abdullahi Adamu was fixed in the position to implement CONSENSUS

[quote author=laughitall post=111982237] na okada go kill your remaining family .. cause you papa don die like dis .. RIP[/quoute]nah caterpillar go grind ur entire lineage..

[quote author=ipobarecriminals post=111982382][/quote]if I vex .. you go just lose your life .. you this boy .. because of your mama I leave you ..

VPO will not even get to primary election before he will floor Tinubu

laughitall:
if I vex .. you go just lose your life .. you this boy .. because of your mama I leave you ..

may lightening strike and burn ur mama white hairy pusi,seal ur father orifice and blind u and ur younger ones together. Nah inside DAT pigsty u call room u go end ur life

[quote author=ipobarecriminals post=111982610]may lightening strike and burn ur mama white hairy pusi,seal ur father orifice and blind u and ur younger ones together. Nah inside DAT pigsty u call room u go end ur life[/quote.. your mama go sleep she no go wake up … your papa na dead meat for us already … you and your remaining siblings go die horribly ..

buckeyemedia:
And lose the general election to pdp? Not under President Buhari’s watch.

hahahaha, Osibanjo will win it.

laughitall:
not with someone like jagaban !..

ok