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Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by Onlytruth(m): 12:00am On Dec 17, 2010
bashr4:

from the early ages igbo have been praticing true federalism, is that not why they are opposed to the nigerian style of government and marginalisation so what makes anyone think they will do the same thing nigerian govt did to them.

secondly if nigeria breaks up igbo in lagos need not go anywhere except maybe those in civil service , but an igbo man living and working or doing buisness in lagos is the same thing as one in london and atlanta etc so where is he goin?

thirdly i have already treated the propagansa of igbos being landlocked
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-569408.0.html

me personally as an igbo man i dont care about polistics or power , i dont have a single uncle or relative in politics they are all manufacturers with factories all over nigeria ,asia and southafrica, buisness men, traders and professionals in their different career, igbo are not and have never been greedy for power.

finally why not allow igbo to worry about their fate if nigeria is to divide, the same way they may be paying you if they are using your port they will recover the money from profit of sales from their manufactured product you will be buyin , its easy add the loss to the sales price so stop fighting it.

Seconded. cool
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by Dede1(m): 12:33am On Dec 17, 2010
eku_bear:

Eh, Obama is one out of 40+ presidents and has a somewhat tenuous hold on power. I'm a fan of the guy and voted for him, but am not sure he is the best example to use. Obamas do not grow on trees, and even Obama's success is not nearly a given.

This is a good goal. I think if you enshrine political strength for minorities in your constitution (the US Senate is basically an example of this), then things will work out well. It would be pretty easy to sell Biafra to Eastern minorities if say the presidency were relatively weak, the Senate quite strong, and some overwhelming supermajority is required in the Senate to get things done.

That way minorities have constitution rights and mechanisms to prevent themselves from being numerically overwhelmed.


I do not know what you meant by selling Biafra to eastern minorities. The eastern minorities as you ascribed them held sway in governmental positions in the former eastern region of Nigerian that morphed into Biafra. Eastern minorities were head of government in eastern region, secretary to the government of both eastern region Nigeria and Biafra, was second in command of the Biafran armed forces, gave eastern region of the name- Biafra, was leader in the house of chiefs in eastern region of Nigeria, was Biafran ambassador to Britain and held numerous political positions both in eastern region and Biafra. The so-called eastern minorities were part and parcel of Biafra until final outcome of the war.

All these silly distancing and immoral denial were due to the fact Biafra the lost war. It is understandable from the political point that some eastern minorities engaged in shameful denial after all many Germans denied being citizen of Germany after the WWII.
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by vicenzo(m): 1:18am On Dec 18, 2010
@bashr4.Nwanaa,which part of igboland are you from?
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by vicenzo(m): 1:19am On Dec 18, 2010
@bashr4.Nwanaa,which part of igboland are you from?
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by ekubear1: 7:24pm On Dec 18, 2010
@Dede1: All that might be well and fine, but I suspect that when negotiating a new nation, they'll seek certain constitutional rights. That at the end of the day is more important than the things you mention. Anyway, it doesn't appear that any of these Akwa Ibom/Cross River folks have posted here yet. So mostly we are speculating until we get a sense of what they think.
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by SapeleGuy: 8:06pm On Dec 18, 2010
When Oil Finishes, What Next?

Nigerians will condemn the leaders who surrendered Bakassi without a fight. We will suddenly remember that Bakassi was worth fighting for.
In reality oil will not finish, it will only become more difficult to extract making oil scarce and very expensive.
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by ekubear1: 8:29pm On Dec 18, 2010
The whole situation in Nigeria right now is a bit weird. Massive amounts of natural gas just off and flared. If I were the Nigerian federal government, I'd develop natural gas properly and ensure that 50% of the money for it goes to the Delta. There is enough gas in Nigeria to power all of Africa, if only it was being developed  undecided

I wish these Delta militants were fighting instead for the pie to be made larger instead of just to grab a larger piece of the small one Nigeria has. So much unrealized potential in this silly country. . .
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by SapeleGuy: 8:48pm On Dec 18, 2010
Never mind Delta militants, the same principle applies to your ethnic OPC militia, why don't they campaign for gold to be mined in the South West for the benefit of all as opposed to the collaborators in power.
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by ekubear1: 9:09pm On Dec 18, 2010
^-- You misread me. I'm saying the Delta militants should fight for full control over the natural gas in their region. Then bring in investors with capital to develop it and sell it. Regarding derivation. . . 50%, 100%, I don't care so long as it is available in large amounts for purchase (that can be used to electrify the entire SW and fill it with factories.)

Cheaper to purchase pipelined NG from the Delta than LNG from abroad (roughly 1/2 the cost, if I remember correctly.)

And cheap power will give whoever has it a tremendous advantage when it comes to manufacturing things like electronics, cars, etc.
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by bashr4: 6:32am On Jan 03, 2011
vicenzo:

@bashr4.Nwanaa,which part of igboland are you from?
anambra. dont mind nairalanders there lots of fake people on it , internet trolls like aljharenm claiming to be igbo. yes let my blood dey hot is dat not why am a nigerian.
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by Nobody: 8:42am On Jan 03, 2011
Funny Thread. I'm from AI. Truth be told, ibos will not suffer in a landlocked country. I'm serving in delta n most non-aniomas seem to adore the yorubas. If most ibos share the same sentiments as ezeuche, then it will in the interest of annang/efik/ibibios, ikwerres n ogonis to be on their own. That aside, i'm a biafra apologist
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by Onlytruth(m): 9:05am On Jan 03, 2011
careytommy:

Funny Thread. I'm from AI. Truth be told, ibos will not suffer in a landlocked country. I'm serving in delta n most non-aniomas seem to adore the yorubas. If most ibos share the same sentiments as ezeuche, then it will in the interest of annang/efik/ibibios, ikwerres n ogonis to be on their own. That aside, i'm a biafra apologist

I know you know that most Igbos are not like that, which is part of why you are a Biafra apologist.
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by aljharem11(m): 12:07pm On Jan 03, 2011
careytommy:

Funny Thread. I'm from AI. Truth be told, ibos will not suffer in a landlocked country. I'm serving in delta n most non-aniomas seem to adore the yorubas. If most ibos share the same sentiments as ezeuche, then it will in the interest of annang/efik/ibibios, ikwerres n ogonis to be on their own. That aside, i'm a biafra apologist

so you noticed that this ezeuche guy is just disgracing our igbo identity with his extreme views undecided
Onlytruth:

I know you know that most Igbos are not like that, which is part of why you are a Biafra apologist.

onlytruth brother
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by Dede1(m): 11:25pm On Jan 03, 2011
eku_bear:

@Dede1: All that might be well and fine, but I suspect that when negotiating a new nation, they'll seek certain constitutional rights. That at the end of the day is more important than the things you mention. Anyway, it doesn't appear that any of these Akwa Ibom/Cross River folks have posted here yet. So mostly we are speculating until we get a sense of what they think.

It is unfortunate you have not read up how Biafra came to be and also ignorant of the fact that eastern region of Nigeria had a functional constitution which was drawn by majority of eastern region minority delegates.

I have always believed in precedents. If the so-called Odua and Arewa republics will survive without Ndigbo and eastern region of Nigeria, why did Odua and Arewa foisted a war of attrition on Biafra?

This nonsensical phase about Igbo land being landlocked is propagandist ploy to abuse the mind of undiscerning onlooker such as eku_bear.
Re: When Oil Finishes, What Next? by PhysicsHD: 11:25am On Jan 05, 2011
careytommy:

I'm serving in delta n most non-aniomas seem to adore the yorubas.

What does this even mean?


Anyways, you probably mixed up the Itsekiris with the Yorubas. An understandable mistake if that's the case.

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