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The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by 43Ronin: 6:23pm On May 08, 2022
Ok so many people don't know this but the desciples actually converted people to Judaism.
Acts 13:43–52

ESV

43 And after the meeting of the synagogue broke up, many Jews and cdevout dconverts to Judaism followed Paul and Barnabas, who, as they spoke with them, urged them eto continue in fthe grace of God.

44 The next Sabbath almost the whole city gathered to hear the word of the Lord

So how come Christians don't leave according to the laws of Judaism? Sabbath on Saturday instead of Sunday? Eating of snakes, fish without scale(e.g catfish) pork etc? Is christianity a hybrid of Judaism or just a fslse. Why do Christians believe in the trinity why Judaism clearly states there is only one God.
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Maynman: 6:29pm On May 08, 2022
Because Roman Catholic happened.
Even when “Jesus” was alive in the book he was a Judaist.
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Kobojunkie: 6:37pm On May 08, 2022
43Ronin:
1. Ok so many people don't know this but the desciples actually converted people to Judaism.

2. So how come Christians don't leave according to the laws of Judaism? Sabbath on Saturday instead of Sunday? Eating of snakes, fish without scale(e.g catfish) pork etc?

3. Is christianity a hybrid of Judaism or just a fslse.

4. Why do Christians believe in the trinity why Judaism clearly states there is only one God.
1. How could the disciples have done what you accuse them of here when God Himself excluded the Gentiles from being a part of His Old Covenant, which He made only with those who had the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20? undecided

2. They can't and shouldn’t because the Old Covenant Law of Moses has nothing to do with Christians. undecided

3. Christianity isn't a hybrid of Judaism but a separate Law and Covenant entirely. undecided

4. The doctrine of Trinity is not of Christianity but Born of the delusions of men. That said, Jesus Christ is indeed God just as He revealed to His followers. undecided

First of all. It is essential you understand why it is that Jesus Christ is God. undecided

As written in Scripture, Jesus Christ is God, but nowhere in Scripture are we informed that God is Jesus Christ though. There is a reason for this and Jesus Christ Himself explained it to His followers. undecided


In Scripture we learn of God the following
▪︎ God is God of Wrath
▪︎ God is God of Laws
▪︎ God is Good/Righteous
▪︎ God is Faithful
▪︎ God is Love
▪︎ God is True
▪︎ God is Life
.....
And of Jesus Christ, we are informed by Him that He is
▪︎ God's Truth
▪︎ God's Life
▪︎ God's Law (one of many) aka The Way

So, as Jesus Christ explained, He is made from some of the same essence that is God hence He indeed is God. However, since Jesus Christ doesn't have all of the essence of God, God isn't Jesus Christ. undecided

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Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by 43Ronin: 6:37pm On May 08, 2022
Maynman:
Because Roman Catholic happened.
Even when “Jesus” was alive in the book he was a Judaist.

Could it be the reason they established churches as means of gathering the faithful rather than as an actual place of worship and sacrificial offerings. Now it makes sense why they would say the body is the temple of the holy spirit
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Maynman: 6:47pm On May 08, 2022
43Ronin:


Could it be the reason they established churches as means of gathering the faithful rather than as an actual place of worship and sacrificial offerings. Now it makes sense why they would say the body is the temple of the holy spirit

I said Catholic not Catholic Church.
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Dtruthspeaker: 7:49pm On May 08, 2022
43Ronin:
Ok so many people don't know this but the desciples actually converted people to Judaism.
Acts 13:43–52

ESV...

Stop using evil Bibles. Verse 38 of that same chapter clearly talks about Christ, yet you did not see it.
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Maynman: 7:49pm On May 08, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Stop using evil Bibles. Verse 38 of that same chapter clearly talks about Christ, yet you did not see it.

We have evil bibles? Bwahahahah

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Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Dtruthspeaker: 7:54pm On May 08, 2022
Maynman:


We have evil bibles? Bwahahahah

Of course, Satan has ensured that he puts his version of bible in circulation.
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Maynman: 7:57pm On May 08, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Of course, Satan has ensured that he puts his version of bible in circulation.

So which holy version are you using yourself?
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by NuclearReactor: 9:25pm On May 08, 2022
Kobojunkie did you say Jesus doesnt have the fullness of God?? Col 2:9 "For in christ all the fullness of the diety lives in bodily form" Col 1:19 "For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him" these passages clearly show that Jesus possesses the fullness of the attributes and qualities of God that makes God, God!! That he didnt express some of those qualities doesnt mean he doesnt posses them!!

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Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Kobojunkie: 9:36pm On May 08, 2022
NuclearReactor:
1. did you say Jesus doesnt have the fullness of God?? Col 2:9 "For in christ all the fullness of the diety lives in bodily form" Col 1:19 "For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him" these passages clearly show that Jesus possesses the fullness of the attributes and qualities of God that makes God, God!! That he didnt express some of those qualities doesnt mean he doesnt posses them!!
1. Indeed, I did, this since Jesus Christ Himself made it overtly clear to that He is God's Law(the Way), God's Truth, and God's Life - John 14 vs 1 - 7 undecided


Again, as written in Scripture, Jesus Christ is God, but nowhere in Scripture are we informed that God is Jesus Christ though. There is a reason for this and Jesus Christ Himself explained it to His followers. undecided


In Scripture we learn of God the following
▪︎ God is God of Wrath
▪︎ God is God of Laws
▪︎ God is Good/Righteous
▪︎ God is Faithful
▪︎ God is Love
▪︎ God is True
▪︎ God is Life
.....
And of Jesus Christ, we are informed by Him that He is
▪︎ God's Truth
▪︎ God's Life
▪︎ God's Law (one of many) aka The Way

So, as Jesus Christ explained, He is made from some some the same essence that is God hence He indeed is God. However, since Jesus Christ doesn't have all of the essence of God, God isn't Jesus Christ. undecided


It seems your interpretation of the opinion written of in Paul's letters to the Jewish Christians in Colossia differs a whole deal from what Jesus Christ said of Himself. So, you might want to take this up with Jesus Christ, the one who is quoted in John 14 vs 1 - 7, and not me. undecided
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by NuclearReactor: 9:38pm On May 08, 2022
43Ronin:
Ok so many people don't know this but the desciples actually converted people to Judaism.
Acts 13:43–52

ESV

43 And after the meeting of the synagogue broke up, many Jews and cdevout dconverts to Judaism followed Paul and Barnabas, who, as they spoke with them, urged them eto continue in fthe grace of God.

44 The next Sabbath almost the whole city gathered to hear the word of the Lord

So how come Christians don't leave according to the laws of Judaism? Sabbath on Saturday instead of Sunday? Eating of snakes, fish without scale(e.g catfish)pork etc? Is christianity a hybrid of Judaism or just a fslse.Why do Christians believe in the trinity why Judaism clearly states there is only one God.
That the whole city came to listen to paul on Sat doesnt mean they were mandated to worship on Sat or To obey jewish rites after they were converted see Gal 2:11-14, Sat was just d conveniet day for paul to preach because that was d designated day of worship at dat time

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Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by NuclearReactor: 9:56pm On May 08, 2022
Kobojunkie now i get it. The issue is dat your are using God as a title and God as the father interchangeably,since God the father was the only revealed personality of the trinity in the OT, The title "God" (a supreme being who created the world and who is to be worshiped) was also used as God the father. So what u are to say is Jesus is God(title) but God the father(Jehovah) is not Jesus. I hope it now makes sense, lol.
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Kobojunkie: 10:49pm On May 08, 2022
NuclearReactor:
now i get it. The issue is dat your are using God as a title and God as the father interchangeably,since God the father was the only revealed personality of the trinity in the OT, The title "God" (a supreme being who created the world and who is to be worshiped) was also used as God the father. So what u are to say is Jesus is God(title) but God the father(Jehovah) is not Jesus. I hope it now makes sense, lol.
This doesn't make any sense to me since my post was quite clear and to the point. undecided

By the way, God has no name that isn't a title to Him. Whether you refer to Him as Adonai, God, I Am, etc., .. they are all of them titles. He is the one and only of His Kind and so has no need for a personal identifier/name much like we humans do. undecided
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Maynman: 11:00pm On May 08, 2022
Kobojunkie:
This doesn't make any sense to me since my post was quite clear and to the point. undecided

By the way, God has no name that isn't a title to Him. Whether you refer to Him as Adonai, God, Father,Jehovah, I Am, etc., .. they are all of them titles. He is the one and only of His Kind and so has no need for a personal identifier/name much like we humans do. undecided

But he is a jealous one just like humans do?

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Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by AntiChristian: 9:59am On May 10, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Of course, Satan has ensured that he puts his version of bible in circulation.

Which of the translations below is of Satan and which is of your God?

American Standard Version (ASV)
Amplified Bible (AMP)
Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)
Catholic Public Domain Version (CPDV)
Christian Standard Bible (CSB)
Common English Bible (CEB)
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
Contemporary English Version (CEV)
Contemporary English Version (Anglicised) 2012 (CEVUK)
Contemporary English Version Interconfessional Edition (CEVDCI)
Darby's Translation 1890 (DARBY)
Douay-Rheims Challoner Revision 1752 (DRC1752)
EasyEnglish Bible 2018 (EASY)
English Standard Version 2016 (ESV)
English: Berean Study Bible (BSB)
Free Bible Version (FBV)
GOD'S WORD (GW)
Geneva Bible (GNV)
Good News Bible (Anglicised) (GNBDC)
Good News Bible (Anglicised) 1994 (GNBUK)
Good News Bible (Catholic edition in Septuagint order) (GNBDK)
Good News Translation (GNT)
Good News Translation (US Version) (GNTD)
Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
Holy Bible: Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
International Children’s Bible (ICB)
Isaiah 1830, 1842 (John Jones alias Ioan Tegid) (TEG)
Jubilee Bible (JUB)
King James Version (KJV)
King James Version with Apocrypha, American Edition (KJVAAE)
King James Version, American Edition (KJVAE)
Lexham English Bible (LEB)
Modern English Version (MEV)
New American Bible, revised edition (NABRE)
New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020)
New American Standard Bible - NASB 1995 (NASB1995)
New Century Version (NCV)
New English Translation (NET)
New International Reader’s Version (NIRV)
New International Version (NIV)
New International Version (Anglicised) (NIVUK)
New King James Version (NKJV)
New Living Translation (NLT)
New Messianic Version Bible (NMV)
New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
New Revised Standard Version Catholic Interconfessional (NRSV-CI)
Plain English Version (PEV)
Psalms of David in Metre 1650 (Scottish Psalter) (MP1650)
Radiate New Testament (RAD)
Revised Standard Version (RSV)
Revised Standard Version (RSV-CI)
Revised Version 1885 (RV1885)
Revised Version with Apocrypha 1885, 1895 (RV1895)
Scottish Metrical Paraphrases 1781 (MP1781)
St Paul from the Trenches 1916 (GWC)
The Books of the Bible NT (BOOKS)
The Message (MSG)
The Orthodox Jewish Bible (TOJB2011)
The Passion Translation (TPT)
The Scriptures 2009 (TS2009)
Tree of Life Version (TLV)
World English Bible (WEB)
World English Bible British Edition (WEBBE)
World Messianic Bible (WMB)
World Messianic Bible British Edition (WMBBE)
Wycliffe's Bible with Modern Spelling (WBMS)
Young's Literal Translation 1898 (YLT98)

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Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Dtruthspeaker: 1:08pm On May 13, 2022
AntiChristian:


Which of the translations below is of Satan and which is of your God?

Truth is known! It does not require advertisement and promotion. Any who wants it's can find it and I know that people run into it from time to time, therefore, identifying the difference is easy.
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:39pm On May 13, 2022
43Ronin:
Ok so many people don't know this but the desciples actually converted people to Judaism.
Acts 13:43–52
ESV
43 And after the meeting of the synagogue broke up, many Jews and cdevout dconverts to Judaism followed Paul and Barnabas, who, as they spoke with them, urged them eto continue in fthe grace of God.
44 The next Sabbath almost the whole city gathered to hear the word of the Lord
So how come Christians don't leave according to the laws of Judaism? Sabbath on Saturday instead of Sunday? Eating of snakes, fish without scale(e.g catfish) pork etc? Is christianity a hybrid of Judaism or just a fslse. Why do Christians believe in the trinity why Judaism clearly states there is only one God.
Jesus was the last true prophet who lived by the Old Covenant and introduce the New Covenant.
Judaism was instituted by a Jewish sect called Pharisees after the return of Jews from exile.
There was nothing called Judaism until after the Jews returned from Babylon that's why the adherents of this religion keep having serious issues with Jesus and his disciples because it has become adulterated religion not what the ancient servants of God practiced.
So after Jesus' ascension to heaven the Holy Spirit anointed Jesus' disciples, this serves as a sign that God has chosen a new nation and everything the Jews were practicing in the temple has become null and void! Act 2:1-4

God has promised the Jews that He will pour out some of His spirit on those who kept His covenant to the end {Joel 2:28-30} but sadly by the time Messiah (Christ) will arrive Satan has really turned everything Moses and the prophets laid down upside down, that's why john told that sect pioneering Judaism inside God's temple:

But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth, good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Matthew 3:7-10

Jesus continue pointing out the flaws in Judaism until he was finally killed by those judaists. His disciples were continually criticized in all the synagogues of Jews were Judaism is practiced. Act 13:50; 14:2, 19; 17:13

So Judaism is not what the disciples of Jesus practiced otherwise there wouldn't have been any issue between them and the Jews, in fact Jews today practicing Judaism never agree that Jesus of Nazareth is a prophet of God because of the way he criticized Judaism! smiley
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by Maynman: 3:03pm On May 13, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Jesus was the last true prophet who lived by the Old Covenant and introduce the New Covenant.
Judaism was instituted by a Jewish sect called Pharisees after the return of Jews from exile.
There was nothing called Judaism until after the Jews returned from Babylon that's why the adherents of this religion keep having serious issues with Jesus and his disciples because it has become adulterated religion not what the ancient servants of God practiced.
So after Jesus' ascension to heaven the Holy Spirit anointed Jesus' disciples, this serves as a sign that God has chosen a new nation and everything the Jews were practicing in the temple has become null and void! Act 2:1-4

God has promised the Jews that He will pour out some of His spirit on those who kept His covenant to the end {Joel 2:28-30} but sadly by the time Messiah (Christ) will arrive Satan has really turned everything Moses and the prophets laid down upside down, that's why john told that sect pioneering Judaism inside God's temple:

But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth, good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Matthew 3:7-10

Jesus continue pointing out the flaws in Judaism until he was finally killed by those judaists. His disciples were continually criticized in all the synagogues of Jews were Judaism is practiced. Act 13:50; 14:2, 19; 17:13

So Judaism is not what the disciples of Jesus practiced otherwise there wouldn't have been any issue between them and the Jews, in fact Jews today practicing Judaism never agree that Jesus of Nazareth is a prophet of God because of the way he criticized Judaism! smiley

Judaism doesn’t criticize “Jesus”,they don’t even think about him, they just don’t believe in him the same you also don’t right?
Re: The Desciples Converted Gentiles To Judaism, Why Is Christianity A Religion by AntiChristian: 4:08pm On May 13, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Truth is known! It does not require advertisement and promotion. Any who wants it's can find it and I know that people run into it from time to time, therefore, identifying the difference is easy.

grin

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