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Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by kareem257: 9:41am On Sep 21, 2017
obynocute:
this tstv how true is it..
They are very active on Facebook. Countdown is own

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Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Chinedu7: 10:45am On Sep 21, 2017
People shouldn't get worked up about TSTV. You guys just don't understand what the package is all about. If you do, then you should know that there is nothing special they are offering you.
Let me break it down. They are a combination of satellite & Internet TV. Most of the Sports Channels will be on Internet TV just like what you have on Android TV platform and the satellite TV will be regular channels they are allowed to host.
Example: They can't host BeIN Sports channels on satellite because DSTV will never allow that as their zonal rights will clash. Even if TSTV reach agreement with BeIN Sports to have them on Satellite, DSTV will still not allow that.

So, in all there is nothing new they are offering that you can't get elsewhere but if they can offer enough data at cheap prices then it could worth it because I believe that it's the Sports Channels that will attract subscribers to them.

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Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by samhwande67: 10:49am On Sep 21, 2017
Hello gurus in the house, pls this MCOT family n co, can 2.4 m mesh do justice to it with 4669 receiver? And can I remove the plate inside my LNBF to track it or the LNBF without plate is made that way i.e, not to be with plate?
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by spartacus11(m): 10:53am On Sep 21, 2017
obynocute:
this tstv how true is it..
Even CTL dat is blazing, go their web page u will see something different from wat dey are actually doing.

So those na coded tins

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Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by holyaustin(m): 10:58am On Sep 21, 2017
BuhariCarryGo:
pls are u still watching sport24 west side?


no. sports24 on west side off
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by sunene1: 11:23am On Sep 21, 2017
samhwande67:
Hello gurus in the house, pls this MCOT family n co, can 2.4 m mesh do justice to it with 4669 receiver? And can I remove the plate inside my LNBF to track it or the LNBF without plate is made that way i.e, not to be with plate?
Ur dish size will bring down the mcot package .let ur receiver be parched with biss key. Mcot HD and family;
Track sony on intelsat 68.5e without di-electric plate. Get the highest signal and while in-front of your dish, input this TP for Mcot package 3520H28125 and move to the right a bit and lower ur dish down a bit .u will hit green.
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by davodyguy: 11:47am On Sep 21, 2017
obynocute:
this tstv how true is it..

I'm having a discussion with TSTV and thereafter would post my findings here, as I do not want to speculate based on rumors or what flies around, which may be frivolous.

In the meantime, I do know for sure that there's likelihood that they use the IPTV platform to broadcast, but that would be 'disastrous'
'disastrous' in the sense that, our slow and expensive internet technology would put people off. In one of their ad on the website, they mention providing about 20 gig data, which comes along with the package monthly. If true, this corroborate the fact that they may broadcast some channels using the IPTV technology.

The challenge would then be whether or not the satellite dish can transmit data to the decoder to serve as a server/router for internet service in broadband kind of arrangement or if they would be relying on other ISP.


My worry is with our acceptance of IPTV, cos of slow network and high internet cost.

From my travels around continents and interesting countries, NETFLIX (https://www.netflix.com/) is taking over. NETFLIX is a luxury in Nigeria, but outside Nigeria, it is not. https://www.netflix.com/ng/

In Perth, I have a friend that uses NETFLIX and monthly sub is less than 20AUD.
Same in Sydney and Melbourne. I was privileged to watch couple of movies about 15 days ago whilst in Wentworthville NSW
https://www.netflix.com/au/

What I do know also is that the internet connection must stable, to avoid buffering.

SA too is doing same. Whilst DSTV operates from SA, Lots of people in Jo'burg are also 'NETFLIXING' They have some super stable internet in SA. I can attest to this
https://www.netflix.com/za/

On My Andriod box back home, NETFLIX is just there, as I prefer Mobdro for football matches.


In all,

1. We need to wait for TSTV to launch and we get a feel of how they would operate. Whether its going to be direct satellite TV channels or through IPTV. I'm 100% sure 80% of their channels would not be on IPTV.

2. If Canal sat Afrique is broadcasting in west Africa and showing almost same thing DSTV offers in terms of sport, why cant DSTV hack them or challenge them within the West Africa sub region? Or can we say it cos they broadcast 95% of channels in french Language?

My second submission above would corroborate the fact that they may not broadcast beinsport on IPTV platform after all, since they broadcast not in English Language


Similar, in the UK for instance, Sky sports got EPL rights, same with BT sport. These channels broadcast in England, N.ireland, Scotland, Germany, R.Ireland etc without any conflict
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by ManirBK: 1:03pm On Sep 21, 2017
holyaustin:


no. sports24 on west side off
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Chinedu7: 1:12pm On Sep 21, 2017
davodyguy:


I'm having a discussion with TSTV and thereafter would post my findings here, as I do not want to speculate based on rumors or what flies around, which may be frivolous.

In the meantime, I do know for sure that there's likelihood that they use the IPTV platform to broadcast, but that would be 'disastrous'
'disastrous' in the sense that, our slow and expensive internet technology would put people off. In one of their ad on the website, they mention providing about 20 gig data, which comes along with the package monthly. If true, this corroborate the fact that they may broadcast some channels using the IPTV technology.

The challenge would then be whether or not the satellite dish can transmit data to the decoder to serve as a server/router for internet service in broadband kind of arrangement or if they would be relying on other ISP.


My worry is with our acceptance of IPTV, cos of slow network and high internet cost.

From my travels around continents and interesting countries, NETFLIX (https://www.netflix.com/) is taking over. NETFLIX is a luxury in Nigeria, but outside Nigeria, it is not. https://www.netflix.com/ng/

In Perth, I have a friend that uses NETFLIX and monthly sub is less than 20AUD.
Same in Sydney and Melbourne. I was privileged to watch couple of movies about 15 days ago whilst in Wentworthville NSW
https://www.netflix.com/au/

What I do know also is that the internet connection must stable, to avoid buffering.

SA too is doing same. Whilst DSTV operates from SA, Lots of people in Jo'burg are also 'NETFLIXING' They have some super stable internet in SA. I can attest to this
https://www.netflix.com/za/

On My Andriod box back home, NETFLIX is just there, as I prefer Mobdro for football matches.


In all,

1. We need to wait for TSTV to launch and we get a feel of how they would operate. Whether its going to be direct satellite TV channels or through IPTV. I'm 100% sure 80% of their channels would not be on IPTV.

2. If Canal sat Afrique is broadcasting in west Africa and showing almost same thing DSTV offers in terms of sport, why cant DSTV hack them or challenge them within the West Africa sub region? Or can we say it cos they broadcast 95% of channels in french Language?

My second submission above would corroborate the fact that they may not broadcast beinsport on IPTV platform after all, since they broadcast not in English Language


Similar, in the UK for instance, Sky sports got EPL rights, same with BT sport. These channels broadcast in England, N.ireland, Scotland, Germany, R.Ireland etc without any conflict

Fair point but Canal is for French speaking West African countries, it's not the same as having two companies broadcasting the same content like EPL in a region unless they agreed to share like BT Sports and Sky Sports in UK. But don't forget that Sky can't play the same match that is live on BT Sports. So, it's not the same thing.
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by HAH: 1:13pm On Sep 21, 2017
Chinedu7:
People shouldn't get worked up about TSTV. You guys just don't understand what the package is all about. If you do, then you should know that there is nothing special they are offering you.
Let me break it down. They are a combination of satellite & Internet TV. Most of the Sports Channels will be on Internet TV just like what you have on Android TV platform and the satellite TV will be regular channels they are allowed to host.
Example: They can't host BeIN Sports channels on satellite because DSTV will never allow that as their zonal rights will clash. Even if TSTV reach agreement with BeIN Sports to have them on Satellite, DSTV will still not allow that.

So, in all there is nothing new they are offering that you can't get elsewhere but if they can offer enough data at cheap prices then it could worth it because I believe that it's the Sports Channels that will attract subscribers to them.
the catch is the 20gigs of data, and pricing, forget football, no other satellite provider will offer what they advertised for 3k monthly, personally am a documentary person, they offer, nat geo gold, nat geo, discovery sciences, idx, fine living, etc if it is only thing football channels that I will use the 20gigs with then is a bargain for me., however we have to wait for tstv with cautious optimism as certainly every new thing will have teething problems
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Chinedu7: 1:45pm On Sep 21, 2017
HAH:
the catch is the 20gigs of data, and pricing, forget football, no other satellite provider will offer what they advertised for 3k monthly, personally am a documentary person, they offer, nat geo gold, nat geo, discovery sciences, idx, fine living, etc if it is only thing football channels that I will use the 20gigs with then is a bargain for me., however we have to wait for tstv with cautious optimism as certainly every new thing will have teething problems
That is my point, I believe it's very interesting. I will go for that too. IPTV is the only way they can legally host BeIN Sports.

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Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by davodyguy: 2:06pm On Sep 21, 2017
Chinedu7:


Fair point but Canal is for French speaking West African countries, it's not the same as having two companies broadcasting the same content like EPL in a region unless they agreed to share like BT Sports and Sky Sports in UK. But don't forget that Sky can't play the same match that is live on BT Sports. So, it's not the same thing.

There are two cases in here, that are very similar

DSTV/Canal Sat

BT TV and Sky TV

BT TV and Sky TV can show same EPL matches at times, especially as it pertains to some big clashes. BT has 42 EPl matches and Sky 126 EPL matches and one or two do clash. And yes they share channels, meaning you can subscribe to Sky and get to watch BT sports 1 and 2, but pay extra. DSTV did same with the french package and both super 3 and Canal sport 1 do show same EPL and same UCL matches.

Now to DSTV / Canal.

Dstv had this full package that covers several Audiences that speak both English and other languages. They use to Have Portugese package and the french package. During the days of Sport+ and when DSTV still broadcast Buli, they air same matches. As i posited above, Canal sport and super sport do air same UCL and EPL matches on different satellites, without one fighting the other(As far as we Know)

On the canal sat Afrique package, you have Super sport 3, same way you have canal and french channels on DSTV west Africa.

Back to the subject.

Canal sat afrique broadcast in west Africa and they have super sport 3 in the arrangement similar to Sky and BT's. Hence, if you are in West Africa, DSTV can not tell you not to have Canal sat installed cos canalsat airs almost same sporting Events as they do. Yes different audiences and language broadcast.

If you recall, I said the TSTV people can use Beinsport being french language to claim they're to capture the french audience in west Africa, except if the west Africa region is automatically Zoned to Canalsat, which i doubt.

My point here is whether TSTV can broadcast beinsport via satellite and can do so within the ambient of the law of TV rights.

You know we play dirty business game in Africa, caused by our brothers in SA. Startimes has over 5 leagues, and European world cup qualifiers, which DSTV do not have. DSTV has just two leagues in Europe, but UCL and Europa league. These two don't share content, they see themselves as rivals.

But Sky and BT does
DSTV and Canal does.
TSTV can say Beinsport is new to Africa and we are the pioneer.

My point is on whether TSTV can be permitted on the international law.

Addendum.

I know for sure that bein sports rights are only exclusive to the middle east and northern Africa region (MENA)
Dstv has exclusive rights in sub Saharan Africa for some contents, but west Africa is also part of this region, which Canal Sat Afrique operates.

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Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by lincolnola: 2:32pm On Sep 21, 2017
lincolnola:
Gurus,

Please urgent help for a brother......my SRT 4922 only blind scanning only 2 lower TPs and keep repeating same stations severally.e.g
If I blindscan multi TV,it keep scanning from lower TPs only upto 12525v30000 and keeps repeating same channels within that frequency range (stops over and over at galaxy channel,no Joy prime and all the rest again.
I factory reset, no headway and am running patch 197p .

Chinedu7:

From experience, this issue is usually not caused by software. It could be signal fault though strong normally don't have this problem which is common with Qsat but they all have signal IC in them which can result in selecting few tps when it's faulty.
If the TP you are seeing after blindscan is lower than its usual % and some tps don't come up when you insert them manually, then it's definitely signal IC but if you can get them manually them it's software issue. You can try upgrading or downgrading.

@ Chinedu & Abohwun
I have upgraded it to 198p but it's still blind scanning and repeating same channels on two TPs.even when I inputted TPs manually, they turn green but upon scanning,it brings those particular channels......pls, help a brother urgently
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by HAH: 2:57pm On Sep 21, 2017
Spy360:

What kind of network would support it? Because 3g is the best we can get.
they said they will use 4.5g, honestly that is the puzzle that can only be unraveled when they starts operations. Am surprised you said is only 3g that is available in Nigeria. 4g is also available now bro
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by odilibe(m): 3:24pm On Sep 21, 2017
davodyguy:

2. If Canal sat Afrique is broadcasting in west Africa and showing almost same thing DSTV offers in terms of sport, why cant DSTV hack them or challenge them within the West Africa sub region? Or can we say it cos they broadcast 95% of channels in french Language?

seems canal plus has EPL rights in sub sahara region..from 2016-2019....
https://www.rapidtvnews.com/2016060843146/canal-afrique-secures-premier-league-tv-rights.html#azz4tK09Muzy
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by davodyguy: 3:31pm On Sep 21, 2017
odilibe:
seems canal plus has EPL rights in sub sahara region..from 2016-2019....
https://wee.rapidtvnews.com/2016060843146/canal-afrique-secures-premier-league-tv-rights.html#azz4tK09Muzy

You're right saw it on Wiki.

Sub-saharan Africa

English Supersport and Kwesé Sports
French Canal+
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Monlo(m): 6:04pm On Sep 21, 2017
Kwese Free Sport is now on eutelsat 16. Just blind scan your decoder.
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by arbourboateng: 7:31pm On Sep 21, 2017
Is signal 3 feed active now.
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by warboy3: 7:52pm On Sep 21, 2017
@Monlo, Sunene1 and Co. Where one fit down animal planet/nat geo both Ku and Cband thanks
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by warboy3: 7:56pm On Sep 21, 2017
@arbourboateng, signal3 is back
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by ManirBK: 8:35pm On Sep 21, 2017
Monlo:
Kwese Free Sport is now on eutelsat 16. Just blind scan your decoder.
no result tp pls?
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by samhwande67: 11:18pm On Sep 21, 2017
warboy3:
@arbourboateng, signal3 is back
pls how can one track this feed?
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by warboy3: 11:31pm On Sep 21, 2017
@samhwande67, only when they's live match probably on weekend's
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by life707: 11:37pm On Sep 21, 2017
The issue about Right of EPL broadcast between DSTV and TSTV is speculative as TSTV has repeatedly affirm that she will show live matches.

I remember during the RDV era(senegalese channel), they show big matches on same satellite as DSTV for about 2-3 seasons but commentary was in French. I remember clearly during a match between Chelsea and Man U, when the main anchor person in their studio mistakenly spoke in English to his fellow analysts at half time about the match and he quickly told them he's not allow to communicate in English as a condition to show the match. Then continued in French.

So I suspect that TSTV may broadcast Arabic commentary from BEIN sport because the package advertised only the Arabic speaking channels (BEIN sport 1-10) without the English speaking ones (BEIN sports 11-13).

A modification will be to turn off or turn low the Arabic commentary and have a TSTV studio with a commentator that just says a word or two about the match per time in English.

Or worst still use pigin English......lol

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Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by life707: 11:43pm On Sep 21, 2017
TSTV by next season will run into another hurdle as BEIN sport has lost the UCL and Europa league right from next season.

France’s SFR has won exclusive rights to Uefa Champions League and Europa League football from the 2018-19 season beating off incumbents beIN Sports and Canal Plus.

Sports newspaper L’Équipe reports SFR Sport will pay €350 million per season for the rights, which will run to 2020-21 seasons of both competitions. In a statement beIN said: “beIN Sports has been informed of Uefa’s decision to award the exclusive rights of the Uefa Champions League and the Uefa Europa League to another operator from the summer 2018. beIN is disappointed and surprised by this decision from Uefa and has concerns about this process.”


Champions League rights in the current cycle, from 2015-16 to 2017-18, are currently split between beIN and Canal Plus. Europa League rights are split between beIN and commercial broadcaster W9.The price has significantly grown since previous deals gauged at €160 million per year for both competitions on the French market. SFR had previously spent more than €100 million a year to get the Premier League.

At Canal+ this will be a bitter pill as this SFR victory looks like one for former CEO Bertrand Meheut who joined the operator as administrator last November.To beIN Sports too it is also a big loss. European competitions are considered as a key element of its programming and this could decrease the attractivity of a bouquet that lost more than €1 billion between 2012 and 2015.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/05/11/france-altice-scores-exclusive-champions-league-rights/
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by davodyguy: 12:06am On Sep 22, 2017
life707:
The issue about Right of EPL broadcast between DSTV and TSTV is speculative as TSTV has repeatedly affirm that she will show live matches.

I remember during the RDV era(senegalese channel), they show big matches on same satellite as DSTV for about 2-3 seasons but commentary was in French. I remember clearly during a match between Chelsea and Man U, when the main anchor person in their studio mistakenly spoke in English to his fellow analysts at half time about the match and he quickly told them he's not allow to communicate in English as a condition to show the match. Then continued in French.

So I suspect that TSTV may broadcast Arabic commentary from BEIN sport because the package advertised only the Arabic speaking channels (BEIN sport 1-10) without the English speaking ones (BEIN sports 11-13).

A modification will be to turn off or turn low the Arabic commentary and have a TSTV studio with a commentator that just says a word or two about the match per time in English.

Or worst still use pigin English......lol

That's what I'm trying to imply.

They may use language as excuse, by broadcasting in Arabic cos canal+ already have the French language covered
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by life707: 12:08am On Sep 22, 2017
davodyguy:


That's what I'm trying to imply.

They may use language as excuse, by broadcasting in Arabic cos canal+ already have the French language covered

Yea
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by davodyguy: 12:11am On Sep 22, 2017
life707:
TSTV by next season will run into another hurdle as BEIN sport has lost the UCL and Europa league right from next season.

France’s SFR has won exclusive rights to Uefa Champions League and Europa League football from the 2018-19 season beating off incumbents beIN Sports and Canal Plus.

Sports newspaper L’Équipe reports SFR Sport will pay €350 million per season for the rights, which will run to 2020-21 seasons of both competitions. In a statement beIN said: “beIN Sports has been informed of Uefa’s decision to award the exclusive rights of the Uefa Champions League and the Uefa Europa League to another operator from the summer 2018. beIN is disappointed and surprised by this decision from Uefa and has concerns about this process.”


Champions League rights in the current cycle, from 2015-16 to 2017-18, are currently split between beIN and Canal Plus. Europa League rights are split between beIN and commercial broadcaster W9.The price has significantly grown since previous deals gauged at €160 million per year for both competitions on the French market. SFR had previously spent more than €100 million a year to get the Premier League.

At Canal+ this will be a bitter pill as this SFR victory looks like one for former CEO Bertrand Meheut who joined the operator as administrator last November.To beIN Sports too it is also a big loss. European competitions are considered as a key element of its programming and this could decrease the attractivity of a bouquet that lost more than €1 billion between 2012 and 2015.

http://advanced-television.com/2017/05/11/france-altice-scores-exclusive-champions-league-rights/

Hope you realize that broadcast is region or country specific. This could be peculiar to France territory and not rest of the regions

Dstv owns the right in all parts of Africa, save MENA, when it concerns English commentaries
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Chinedu7: 12:43am On Sep 22, 2017
life707:
The issue about Right of EPL broadcast between DSTV and TSTV is speculative as TSTV has repeatedly affirm that she will show live matches.

I remember during the RDV era(senegalese channel), they show big matches on same satellite as DSTV for about 2-3 seasons but commentary was in French. I remember clearly during a match between Chelsea and Man U, when the main anchor person in their studio mistakenly spoke in English to his fellow analysts at half time about the match and he quickly told them he's not allow to communicate in English as a condition to show the match. Then continued in French.

So I suspect that TSTV may broadcast Arabic commentary from BEIN sport because the package advertised only the Arabic speaking channels (BEIN sport 1-10) without the English speaking ones (BEIN sports 11-13).

A modification will be to turn off or turn low the Arabic commentary and have a TSTV studio with a commentator that just says a word or two about the match per time in English.

Or worst still use pigin English......lol
I agree with you. 100%. That could be an option. I just hope they don't mess up like HITV. We need it.
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Spy360(m): 1:26am On Sep 22, 2017
HAH:
they said they will use 4.5g, honestly that is the puzzle that can only be unraveled when they starts operations. Am surprised you said is only 3g that is available in Nigeria. 4g is also available now bro
Yes but 4g is not widely circulated. Unless they will provide the 4.5g I don't see the feasibility.
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Spy360(m): 1:39am On Sep 22, 2017
davodyguy:


There are two cases in here, that are very similar

DSTV/Canal Sat

BT TV and Sky TV

BT TV and Sky TV can show same EPL matches at times, especially as it pertains to some big clashes. BT has 42 EPl matches and Sky 126 EPL matches and one or two do clash. And yes they share channels, meaning you can subscribe to Sky and get to watch BT sports 1 and 2, but pay extra. DSTV did same with the french package and both super 3 and Canal sport 1 do show same EPL and same UCL matches.

Now to DSTV / Canal.

Dstv had this full package that covers several Audiences that speak both English and other languages. They use to Have Portugese package and the french package. During the days of Sport+ and when DSTV still broadcast Buli, they air same matches. As i posited above, Canal sport and super sport do air same UCL and EPL matches on different satellites, without one fighting the other(As far as we Know)

On the canal sat Afrique package, you have Super sport 3, same way you have canal and french channels on DSTV west Africa.

Back to the subject.

Canal sat afrique broadcast in west Africa and they have super sport 3 in the arrangement similar to Sky and BT's. Hence, if you are in West Africa, DSTV can not tell you not to have Canal sat installed cos canalsat airs almost same sporting Events as they do. Yes different audiences and language broadcast.

If you recall, I said the TSTV people can use Beinsport being french language to claim they're to capture the french audience in west Africa, except if the west Africa region is automatically Zoned to Canalsat, which i doubt.

My point here is whether TSTV can broadcast beinsport via satellite and can do so within the ambient of the law of TV rights.

You know we play dirty business game in Africa, caused by our brothers in SA. Startimes has over 5 leagues, and European world cup qualifiers, which DSTV do not have. DSTV has just two leagues in Europe, but UCL and Europa league. These two don't share content, they see themselves as rivals.

But Sky and BT does
DSTV and Canal does.
TSTV can say Beinsport is new to Africa and we are the pioneer.

My point is on whether TSTV can be permitted on the international law.

Addendum.

I know for sure that bein sports rights are only exclusive to the middle east and northern Africa region (MENA)
Dstv has exclusive rights in sub Saharan Africa for some contents, but west Africa is also part of this region, which Canal Sat Afrique operates.

I agree.

CTL show PL via Being Sports.
Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by SweetWJ(m): 1:59am On Sep 22, 2017
lincolnola:




@ Chinedu & Abohwun
I have upgraded it to 198p but it's still blind scanning and repeating same channels on two TPs.even when I inputted TPs manually, they turn green but upon scanning,it brings those particular channels......pls, help a brother urgently
.
Have u tried changing ur Lnb?

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