Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by danot1030: 11:08am On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy:
I see your concerns and I empathize with them all.
But let me ask you one question, just only one question and the answer you give me can change my perspective about this sit at home issue
Apart from this ongoing sit at home exercise in the south east what other means can ipob use to push their secessionist agenda towards the federal government and at the same time register their displeasure concerning the illegal kidnapping of MNK from Kenya?
Remember igbos have fewer numbers in the House of Representatives seats
Also keep in mind that all the prior protests were met with bloodshed from the Nigerian government soldiers
Also keep in mind that according to you OUR POLITICIANS CAN NOT BE TRUSTED
I await your answer to my singular question above If I may help you answer the question by yourself do you think the current sit home and the various activities of the IPOB in the SE that subjects the people to hunger, destroying the business and the economy of the ordinary people, killing the same people you claimed you want to create a new nation for and destroying property in the igbo land is the best to realise the secession and registered your displeasure? 1 Like |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by zedegit: 11:09am On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy:
I see your concerns and I empathize with them all.
But let me ask you one question, just only one question and the answer you give me can change my perspective about this sit at home issue
Apart from this ongoing sit at home exercise in the south east what other means can ipob use to push their secessionist agenda towards the federal government and at the same time register their displeasure concerning the illegal kidnapping of MNK from Kenya?
Remember igbos have fewer numbers in the House of Representatives seats
Also keep in mind that all the prior protests were met with bloodshed from the Nigerian government soldiers
Also keep in mind that according to you OUR POLITICIANS CAN NOT BE TRUSTED
I await your answer to my singular question above Let them go on 40 days dry fasting. 1 Like |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 11:09am On May 18, 2022 |
frankson1:
You want the FG to listen and attend to your needs by killing, destroying, and bringing hardship to the same people you claim to fight for
ipob have made numerous statements distancing themselves from what’s happening in the east today, besides waving flags and chanting hymns on the streets only earned them bullet holes from the government soldiers in the past so?
You want to break-out as a result of marginalization but you're not allowed to, and you believe the best way is through destruction deliberate and systematic marginalization is a good enough reason to want secession isn’t it?
Okay, ask yourself this, has the FG had sleepless nights since the carnage started yes they do, till tomorrow they still will have sleepless nights about it and that’s the truth they don’t want you to know
If there are good health care centers, roads, electricity, potable water, security, companies and job opportunities etc, which are basic amenities, we wouldn't be hearing of all these. true true
Another round of elections are coming, the people should vote for men and women who don't only have good development plans but will actually develop their respective states irrespective of party affiliation, into the governors' positions. Also, hold them accountable if and when they do otherwise.
I wouldn't mention the LGs Chairmen because they're under the state governments. PMB tried to separate them together with states assembly but the state governors came together to fight it. So the LGs Chairmen only 'work' with the little given to them by their governor.
everyone knows that elections aren’t free and fair in Nigeria, take the case of imo state and it’s Supreme Court governor as a case study
Biafra will NEVER happen even under an Ibo President. that is left for you and I to see
SE states will NEVER automatically turn to Dubai under an Ibo President. still left for you and I to see
ALL politicians are only concerned and fight for themselves. They only come together irrespective of political affiliations when they feel threatened and play party cards when they want to use the people.
i am happy we both agree to this basic fact together
The same Kanu can make you see good things in the SE states where there are wrongs and likewise, see bad where there are good. he has a huge following so I concur with this observation too
The people 'above' can actually make the people 'below' see whatever and however they want them to see things.
KNOW THESE AND HAVE PEACE. THERE CAN NEVER BE PEACE WITHOUT JUSTICE AND EQUITY ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE 1 Like |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 11:10am On May 18, 2022 |
zedegit:
Let them go on 40 days dry fasting. They are only asking for good governance and justice They don’t want to become like Jesus |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by BarrElChapo(m): 11:10am On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy:
So you want to Bomb buhari?
Terrorist like you Nezie nu... You don't have an answer to this. Anu mpama. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by danot1030: 11:11am On May 18, 2022 |
[quote author=SlyDev post=112932760]When you look at terrorism in SE, as a Yoruba you will thank God for making you a human being with working brain[/quote]
That's exactly what those supporting what is happening in the SE lacks, a working brain. 1 Like |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 11:12am On May 18, 2022 |
danot1030:
If I may help you answer the question by yourself do you think the current sit home and the various activities of the IPOB in the SE that subjects the people to hunger, destroying the business and the economy of the ordinary people, killing the same people you claimed you want to create a new nation for and destroying property in the igbo land is the best to realise the secession and registered your displeasure? To be truthful, NO it’s not the best But It’s the ONLY available solution to the hard headed federal government so it’s the reason it’s being adopted |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 11:14am On May 18, 2022 |
BarrElChapo post=112943649 :
Nezie nu... You don't have an answer to this. Anu mpama. Bia nwoke, ufuru gi, ozu ge zu? What answer are you hoping for? You want me to give you coordinates to bomb buhari abi? Oga abeg shift go front jor |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by zedegit: 11:17am On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy:
They are only asking for good governance and justice
They don’t want to become like Jesus You are confused if you think thats what they are asking for. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 11:19am On May 18, 2022 |
zedegit:
You are confused if you think thats what they are asking for. I don’t understand But weren’t you just now asking for them to embark on a 49 days dey fast in the mountains? I said they don’t want to be like Jesus and I don’t remember being confused when I said so |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by Legendforte: 11:20am On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy: It’s too bad that the same bakassi boys are in ugm today
Soludo should face governance and leave the federal government to release MNK whenever they are tired of the loss of revenue from the sit at home exercises going on. Are u terrorist? |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by omenka(m): 11:22am On May 18, 2022 |
God1000: I support the return of Bakasssi boys Oleng, bringing back bakassi boys is like substituting one evil with another. There'd be no difference between ipob and bakassi boys. Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure much of those who formed bakassi boys are part of ESN today. Remember what bakassi boys turned out to become eventually. I do not support that line of action. If the people in the streets rise up in unison and denouce these people, they'd die a natural death. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by BarrElChapo(m): 11:22am On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy:
Bia nwoke, ufuru gi, ozu ge zu?
What answer are you hoping for?
You want me to give you coordinates to bomb buhari abi?
Oga abeg shift go front jor But you can hold your people hostage. Nzuzu na ya unu by ndi ipob/ugm n'ezie. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by Yujin(m): 11:28am On May 18, 2022 |
Slynation: Seems you don't know what mob action means, especially those Almajiri mobs...
Lemme give you an insight, one of my hommie fought out his girl was cheating on him, out of annoyance, he broke the phone he bought for her, the girl went and called his newly police boyfriend to come and arrest my nigga, she changed the story has he smashed her phone and beat her...
Omo, you need to see the action movie that night, 2 Hilux van of fully loaded armed police men stormed out street, All the guys, we mobilised ourselves and said my hommie is going no where even when gunshots was let into no air, nobody moved an inche, I was even shocked I challenged an officer, come see ginger from guys that day, the main bf of the girl collect insults tire, he came to fight for pussy even his colleagues was now ashamed of him, the officers knew they couldn't do anything and they all left with shame...
So what are mine saying, never underestimate the power of the masses, they can overthrow and overun anything with numbers even if you have all the weapons in the world...
Those officers knew the only way to save the Deborah girl is to start shooting at those boys, and both of us knew the endpoint and what that would have led to...Even when criminals are caught and prepared for jungle justice, the boys will blatantly refuse to handover such person to the police even when they arrive at the crime scene earlier enough, this is because they are many and police will have difficulties in dislodging them...
S.E is currently at the mercies of illiterates who doesn't even know the consequences of their actions at the long run... I've faced such a mob before in the same northern Nigeria but not alone. Those officers could have saved the girl if they wanted. I understand why they didn't save her even if some would have wanted to save her. The reason is simply the same reason why no Christian soldier has been successful in carrying out a coup in the history of Nigeria. Armed men can quash any mob if they're well equipped and morally justified in their mission. Deborah's case was ambivalent. Some policemen believed she deserves to be killed so there's no united moral justification to save hence she was murdered in cold blood. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 11:30am On May 18, 2022 |
BarrElChapo:
But you can hold your people hostage. Nzuzu na ya unu by ndi ipob/ugm n'ezie. What is your proof that ipob are holding anybody hostage? |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 11:30am On May 18, 2022 |
Legendforte:
Are u terrorist? You should be asking your brother that question |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by Sixfiguresmart(m): 11:32am On May 18, 2022 |
Firstly, thank you for your prompt response. I appreciate it. I once worked in that axis that is why I know some of those places. Nevertheless, did he actually pay out any bounties to anyone? I read that there was a house to house search. How true was it? Was the unrest ignited by the IPOBian or his political opponents? I am asking cos I assume that you are on ground and an eyewitness. okeysoninv: everywhere in obigbo is calm as ice water. they(ipob) dare not raise their ugly heads again. the only way to contain ipob madness is wike's medicine |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by zedegit: 11:36am On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy:
I don’t understand
But weren’t you just now asking for them to embark on a 49 days dey fast in the mountains?
I said they don’t want to be like Jesus and I don’t remember being confused when I said so If you are not a useless coward,take the fight to Abuja and leave innocent hapless citizens out of it. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by warlordd(m): 11:41am On May 18, 2022 |
You are right! Stanley Mgbere the leader of Ipob in Oyigbo started begging Governor Wike and calling for peace even while in hiding when Wike placed a 50 million naira bounty on his head. Soludo should use Wike's template. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 11:43am On May 18, 2022 |
zedegit:
If you are not a useless coward,take the fight to Abuja and leave innocent hapless citizens out of it. Olorun An afonja using the word ‘coward’ while addressing an igbo man sacrilege |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by pocohantas(f): 11:44am On May 18, 2022 |
Sterope: Nope! One day you will wake up to realise that those two groups have grown wings. They did grow wings before they were stopped. They don’t belong in 2022 abeg. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by MadamExcellency: 11:45am On May 18, 2022 |
uniquetechng: Who is talking of IDP camps ? You and I cant travel to our homeland as things stand and you and your types see nothing wrong it. Wait till you lose a family to the madness being orchestrated by IPOB/ESN then your narrative will change.
Like I said the sit-at-home affects umu igbos and has nothing on the FG, there should be another way to send a critical message to the FG not killing our people and destroying our region. How that is hard for you and many others to understand is beyond me . Operation Python dance brought the sit-at-home decision. Thousands of Igbo youths were murdered in cold blood by the Nigerian military without them committing any crime. Most of the friends and families of the innocent victims took an oath to avenge the death of their loved ones hence are fighting the security agencies and the political structures that made their death possible. That's what is happening in the East. Call for justice or remain dumb. I also hate violence to the core. NB: If the boys didn't take up arms more Igbo youths would have died by hundreds of thousands in Python dances 4 to 45 by now. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by donbenie(m): 11:46am On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy: It’s too bad that the same bakassi boys are in ugm today
Soludo should face governance and leave the federal government to release MNK whenever they are tired of the loss of revenue from the sit at home exercises going on. Which loss of revenue? The dog that shits on itself and think na its owner it dey do.. You mean you are wreaking Igbo livelihood and thinks you are doing the government? |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by okeysoninv: 11:55am On May 18, 2022 |
Sixfiguresmart: Firstly, thank you for your prompt response. I appreciate it. I once worked in that axis that is why I know some of those places. Nevertheless, did he actually pay out any bounties to anyone? I read that there was a house to house search. How true was it? Was the unrest ignited by the IPOBian or his political opponents? I am asking cos I assume that you are on ground and an eyewitness.
no bounties .just usual ipob chest beating. yes there was manhunt for ipob members that period, after the military encircled obigbo . the unrest was ignited by ipob for killing 8 military personnel during endsars. finally I wasn't an eye witness but lives near obigbo. thank you |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by Nobody: 11:57am On May 18, 2022 |
Agwotulumbe: lalasticlala I wish this will grace front page.
This is a security matter. your in lagos state not in East |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by humberjade: 11:59am On May 18, 2022 |
Landmack:
Suspect no 4 Yeah, I will infiltrate it from some 7,346 km away |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by frankson1(m): 12:03pm On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy:
THERE CAN NEVER BE PEACE WITHOUT JUSTICE AND EQUITY ANYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE You want to dissociate Ipob from killings and destruction in the SE, who are those that celebrates on twitter and other social media and urge them on when security personnels are killed and government properties destroyed As for the "free and fair elections" you mentioned, I agree with you that there are no free and fair elections which is not just in Nigeria but believe me when I say that there's only a limit to which elections can be manipulated. There's no way where a more than 80% of votes in favour of a candidate can be upturned. Anambra state is a good example. Even the people who are marginalized are not United enough to turn down carrots dangled at them by the politicians. Our youths, mothers and fathers are still the ones beating drums and dancing for them. If and when the youths and the oppressed are ready, things will change for good but it won't be by killing and destruction of properties. What do you think will happen if on the day of the different parties presidential primary elections students, lecturers and NLC members come together and block the roads leading to venues for elections Do you think the leaders will still remain silent We all know that even the people crying cannot be exempted when corruption is mentioned because they will rather collect money that will sustain them for a period of time and remain silent. Even if Biafra comes right now, there will still be; beggers in the SE Those crying of marginalization etc Like I earlier stated, the problem is bigger than and beyond Biafra. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by maasoap(m): 12:24pm On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy: It’s too bad that the same bakassi boys are in ugm today
Soludo should face governance and leave the federal government to release MNK whenever they are tired of the loss of revenue from the sit at home exercises going on. Why do I have a feeling that you just sounded like UGM apologists? How would he face governance when people are being killed and institutions are being burnt down on daily basis? He even crawled to meet Kanu in detention forgetting that Kanu has little or no power over the criminals he gave birth to anymore. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by an0daGuy: 12:26pm On May 18, 2022 |
frankson1:
You want to dissociate Ipob from killings and destruction in the SE, who are those that celebrates on twitter and other social media and urge them on when security personnels are killed and government properties destroyed
those who celebrate on twitter and other social media are THE PEOPLE who were brutalized and marginalized by the same security forces and the government in the past, they saw the UGM as a people taking vengeance on their collective enemies so as they say ‘an enemy of my enemy, is my friend’, please don’t blame ipob for it because right from the beginning they have been vocal about their not being affiliated with the UGM in the south east. DO YOU HAVE PHYSICAL VERIFIABLE PROOF THAT UGM IS IPOB?
As for the "free and fair elections" you mentioned, I agree with you that there are no free and fair elections which is not just in Nigeria but believe me when I say that there's only a limit to which elections can be manipulated. There's no way where a more than 80% of votes in favour of a candidate can be upturned. Anambra state is a good example.
the people already have a bias against elections in Nigeria and the south east especially, I really do not know what can be done to change this perception among our people but one thing I know is that A PRECEDENCE MUST BE SET by the government first which the people can use as a reference point for future elections
Even the people who are marginalized are not United enough to turn down carrots dangled at them by the politicians.
Our youths, mothers and fathers are still the ones beating drums and dancing for them.
true true, it’s a generational decay which can only be handled and weeded by fire by force. That’s why the sit at home exercise, though injurious to the people has to be continued so as to install the sense of self reflection into our people to let them understand that we can’t go on as we used to and something must GIVE for other things to move ahead
If and when the youths and the oppressed are ready, things will change for good but it won't be by killing and destruction of properties.
remember that these useless ugm only started by killing federal government forces but then the same government soldiers came and started killing unarmed innocent civilians, framing them up as ipob members and BURNING THEIR COMMUNITIES as a form of revenge. Is that how your government should have handled the issue? Now see the fallout
What do you think will happen if on the day of the different parties presidential primary elections students, lecturers and NLC members come together and block the roads leading to venues for elections
of course they will be shot at by the soldiers, did you expect anything else to happen? If you did then I’d say you’re extremely naive
Do you think the leaders will still remain silent
They have always been silent, both those from the south east and those from the federal level. The only time they were making moves to make things better was when the talks and debates concerning RESTRUCTURING was flying left and right on social media and on the airwaves. But it ended the very day MNK was kidnapped from Kenya and brought back here. Now ask yourself, why? Isn’t that akin to self deception by our political class? People have seen through their shenanigans and are indeed tired of it
We all know that even the people crying cannot be exempted when corruption is mentioned because they will rather collect money that will sustain them for a period of time and remain silent.
unfortunately that is the sorry situation of our country. The masses are ready to sell their birthright for a plate of food. That is why things were better during the military regime and failings during democratic rule in Nigeria. Our citizenry needs a TOUGH HAND to herd them into doing the right things at the right time. That’s why sometimes when I think of this sit at home I shake my head but realize it’s the ONLY way to make the people protest in UNISON for a singular reason and I keep calm
Even if Biafra comes right now, there will still be beggers in the SE Those crying of marginalization etc
it’s normal and has been so since time immemorial. Even in Luxembourg there are beggars and people registering their displeasure over one government policy or another
Like I earlier stated, the problem is bigger than and beyond Biafra. but under the Biafra geopolitical zone and government the leaders will be closer to the people and align better with their issues based on religion, language and location hence speeding up resolution and policy advancements that will benefit the masses. Unlike when a sokoto state man tries to govern aba
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Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by God1000(m): 12:26pm On May 18, 2022 |
omenka: Oleng, bringing back bakassi boys is like substituting one evil with another. There'd be no difference between ipob and bakassi boys. Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure much of those who formed bakassi boys are part of ESN today.
Remember what bakassi boys turned out to become eventually. I do not support that line of action.
If the people in the streets rise up in unison and denouce these people, they'd die a natural death. you are right oleng |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by NOETHNICITY(m): 12:29pm On May 18, 2022 |
MadamExcellency:
If I were you, I would stay out of South-East and Igbo matters. The Northerners and Westerners are not the targets hence allowing them to settle their family matters will be the best for your health. Not at all baby girl, all around me now is becoming saturated with ibo individuals running out of the SE. Lagos is saturated already. |
Re: Soludo Should Return Boys Oye And Bakasi Boys In Anambra. by danot1030: 12:33pm On May 18, 2022 |
an0daGuy:
To be truthful, NO it’s not the best
But
It’s the ONLY available solution to the hard headed federal government so it’s the reason it’s being adopted It would have been a solution to getting the government at the centre attention if all this is having effect on the national interest. The Niger Delta militants were able to get the FG government attention because they targeted the pipeline. Sitting out, killing and destroying in the igbo land is like drinking poison and at the same time wishing it kills your enemy. If the IPOB will get FG attention they should go to where they are in Abuja and at the same time quit cowardice and own up to any havoc they committed not their usual pattern of denying their deeds. |