seanet02:

You are not being truthful, you did said the natural causes can even be linked to human activities somewhere did you not said that? That i reject. Nature on its own can cause WILD FIRE FOREST I REPEAT.

Oboy, you no dey comprehend simple sentence, Our topic was on[b] deforestation [/b] precipitated by Man. . .Read this again and stop this bad habit of repeating my points as your points ( you can't even expand on the expo you got from my post) . . .  You have been exposed as being a weakling upstairs, never you try to claim any form of intelligence again  . .

jmaine:

natural causes are very infinitesimal compared to humans a reason it ([size=20pt] Deforestation ==> included to aid you[/size]) is linked to human causes . . . The natural causes of note is wild forest fires, [size=18pt]which [/size]can [size=18pt]even[/size] be linked to a remote human cause somewhere . . .

seanet02:

Jmaine, here are the causes of wild forest fire from your own usual source
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildfire

A wildfire is any uncontrolled fire in combustible vegetation that occurs in the countryside or a wilderness area.[1][2] Other names such as brush fire, bushfire, forest fire, desert fire, grass fire, hill fire, peat fire, vegetation fire, veldfire, and wildland fire may be used to describe the same phenomenon depending on the type of vegetation being burned. A wildfire differs from other fires by its extensive size, the speed at which it can spread out from its original source, its potential to change direction unexpectedly, and its ability to jump gaps such as roads, rivers and fire breaks.[3] Wildfires are characterized in terms of the cause of ignition, their physical properties such as speed of propagation, the combustible material present, and the effect of weather on the fire.[4]

Wildfires occur on every continent except Antarctica. Fossil records and human history contain accounts of wildfires, as wildfires can occur in periodic intervals.[5][6] Wildfires can cause extensive damage, both to property and human life, but they also have various beneficial effects on wilderness areas. Some plant species depend on the effects of fire for growth and reproduction,[5] although large wildfires may also have negative ecological effects.[4]

Strategies of wildfire prevention, detection, and suppression have varied over the years, and international wildfire management experts encourage further development of technology and research.[7] One of the more controversial techniques is controlled burning: permitting or even igniting smaller fires to minimize the amount of flammable material available for a potential wildfire.[8][9] While some wildfires burn in remote forested regions, they can cause extensive destruction of homes and other property located in the wildland-urban interface: a zone of transition between developed areas and undeveloped wilderness.[8][10]

[size=18pt]natural causes are very infinitesimal compared to humans a reason it ( Deforestation ==> included to aid you) is linked to human causes . . . The natural causes of note is wild forest fires, which can even be linked to a remote human cause somewhere [/size]. . .

Seanet1000:

You Know i tell you this copy and paste argument does not hold water, Now am home  and you can not monopolize copying from links. Did i not tell you that Leaching Can Cause or Lead To Deforestation?
Here is a Back up, i tell you the problem with you is you are too proud and narrow minded to accept defeat

Look at what The Leaching of CYANIDE can Do

The use of cyanide in the extraction process of metals such as gold and silver led to serious environmental risks. The use of cyanide in gold mining has caused environmental disasters in many countries like the U.S., Canada, China, Guyana, Bolivia, Zimbabwe, the Philippines and Ghana. Recently released the Community and NGOs in Europe and the United States, a report that the risk of non-regulated cyanide compound releases from mines in the world exposed.

Cyanide is fatal to humans and the environment. The main risks in the use of cyanide in the mining process are linked to workers exposed to concentrated hydrogen cyanide gas, leakage of cyanide into the environment and exposure of the surrounding communities due to accidental releases of cyanide. During the mining process, the release of cyanide, along with other toxic chemicals such as arsenic,[b] lead, cadmium and mercury [/b]to prevent the[/color] adverse effects and permanent damage to some species of animals, plants and humans. It can also lead to deforestation, soil erosion, landslides and contamination of groundwater.[/color]

The release of arsenic and other toxic chemicals during the cyanide leaching process is very dangerous. The cyanide-leaching mining process wastes, the potential negative impact on municipal water and wastewater treatment processes. Moreover, a possible increase in intake by humans of different toxic substances. All cyanide gold mining waters during milling result in dangerous, wild animals and birds including water birds and bats, if done wrong. Accidental discharge of cyanide solutions in rivers and streams will kill fish and other aquatic solid. In particular, freshwater fish, the cyanide-sensitive aquatic organisms.

Workers in the gold mining operations can be exposed to cyanide in heap or container extraction. Cyanide is very harmful to humans, because it acts as a poison to the human body. Severe respiratory distress developed when cyanide mouth or absorbed through the skin. Cyanide blocks the absorption of oxygen by the cells to suffocate the victim. Exposure to high amounts of cyanide can be fatal to humans. Exposure to very low concentration of cyanide can cause cancer in animals or humans.

We are not sure about the presence and concentration of many cyanide compounds in mining waste. We’re not sure about the presence, persistence and toxicity of cyanide and related compounds in the environment. But if the effects of cyanide are clear, the opposition is growing against the cyanide in gold mining.

The use of cyanide in mining causes an unreasonable risk to human health, animals and fish. If the dangers of cyanide in the mining process is very clear is the responsibility of the government and mining companies substantive steps. The International Cyanide Management Code provides direction and guidance for the management of cyanide to workers to protect the environment and ensure the communities near the mines. Mining waste should be regulated the same way as other chemical or industrial waste. The public must be aware of the dangers mining. The government should mining projects for environmental risks to prohibit environmental disaster. Citizens should also be against such mining projects. Many organizations in countries like the U.S., Canada and Turkey have started the club for the ban cyanide in mining.
[url][/url]
http://www.europamines.net/7-dangers-of-cyanide-in-mining.html

Good to know you are gaining from me  . .am impressed you took some time off to equip your mind. At least my efforts are not in vain . . .

Now let me expose you again. . . The Link you quoted, is it of Natural causes or was is it caused by man . . . . .  Link that to one of my initial lecture to you again in my earlier post below and the one blazing above your quoted post, and learn once again . . . The highlighted elements above heavy metal and the ability of  cyanide to mobilize or solubilize certain metals causes those elements injurious to the environment to be bio available for intake  . . . Cyanide is in itself an ultra poisonous element . . . .

jmaine:


[size=11pt]hope you noticed i highlighted your elementary knowledge of leaching while going further to show you that leaching goes beyond green plants . . .persistent organic compounds like some heavy metals could be leached into underground water sources thereby endangering biotic life  . . . i gave you another scenario of certain toxic chemicals like Aluminium being made soluble and bio available to plants thereby poisoning them . . .and the causative factor is MAN. . .

Another lesson i have for your Embryonic certified brain : - Leaching could be precipitated by Man made activities e.g acidification of soils via his persistent usage of heavy metals in his daily activities

jmaine:

^^ [s]So out of the whole article you could only pin point a line sentence . . . . Okay, assuming you took time to read . . . Define deforestation from what you read and inform the house . . . . how my initial address to you below was never on point [/s]. . . .




Good to know you are gaining from me  . .am impressed you took some time off to equip your mind. At least my efforts is not in vain . . .

Now let me expose you again. . . The Link you quoted, is it of Natural causes or was is it caused by man . . . . .  Link that to one of my initial lecture to you again in my earlier post below and the one blazing above your quoted post, and learn was again . . . The highlighted elements above heavy metal and the ability of  cyanide to mobilize or solubilize certain metals causes those elements injurious to the environment to be bio available for intake  . . . Cyanide is in itself an ultra poisonous element . . . .

Will be right back . . off to attend to some issues . . . . Just keep learning okay . . .

Rhino.5dm:

Ezeuche is a snake. Dont ever be decieved by his suger-coated venom. He is just a born bigot and you cant help him on that. My point also is why not call for the resignation of those theiving eastern governors that diverted the ecological funds to their personal pockets, yet he was gunning for BRF's head. The scumbag HATES everything WEST and he is always restless with any good news from the WEST.
He even went ahead by trying equates fashola with Okorocha when he was not able to stand heat.
Funny was that Okorocha Rochas is a product of the North he loathed the most but cant shamelessly admit to that, No any eastern politician worth emulating. What a scoundrel!

chines4:

I took my time to read almost all the write ups in this this thread. I don't see any body proffering solution. The whole thread is filled with name calling, arguments, counter arguments, lectures, copy and paste, blames, just name it. but no solution.

The big question is What do we do? and please get the government out of it. Especially how can we prevent it from getting up to that huge magnitude.

chines4:

I took my time to read almost all the write ups in this this thread. I don't see any body proffering solution. The whole thread is filled with name calling, arguments, counter arguments, lectures, copy and paste, blames, just name it. but no solution.

The big question is What do we do? and please get the government out of it. Especially how can we prevent it from getting up to that huge magnitude.

Seanet1000:

HOGWASH!!!
Olodo Just simply accept that leaching can lead to  deforestation and stop beating about the bush
Olodo did i not tell you from onset that leaching  can cause deforestation

Did you know that the aftermath of Leaching is the[b] the inavailability of Nutrients[/b] to Plants which invariably leads to the death of Plants and Trees meaning loss of soil cover?

Leaching simply refers to the movement of dissolved substances with water percolating through soil, and in elementary agricultural terms, out of the reach of plants. . . soil texture could permit leaching or even man indirect influence through it's use of chemical that contains heavy metal . .  This heavy metal acidifies the soils, rendering locked elements like Aluminum soluble which is highly toxic to plants  . .The solubilized aluminum then become bio-available for plant to ingest, leading to poisoning . .

Olodo when will you accept that you twisted the facts in the link i provided

Seanet1000:

Now you  see Facts and want to ran away abi? Olodo
i told you i will thrash you to pieces on this issue of Leaching and now you have kindly accepted that. [/b]

Seanet1000:

BTW why are you twisiting the fact on what our real discussion is on, Our argument is your rather childish conclusion that every incidence of wild fire forest[b] must[/b] be man induced.

olodo, you were asking a dumb question on who causes Deforestation between Nature and man? And i was wondering did you ever know it is both? Lemme lecture you a little bit, Deforestation can be caused by lots of things  all of which can be classified under Nature and man made. We have lumbering, bush burning, urban development, industrial expansion and others under man made factors, Desert encroachment, leaching (know you will not agreed to this due to your zero knowledge on Geography) Wind erosion and others.

natural causes are very infinitesimal compared to humans a reason it ( Deforestation ==> included to aid you) is linked to human causes . . . The natural causes of note is wild forest fires, [b]which can even be linked to a remote human cause somewhere

Seanet1000:

Claiming he knows Geography and yet can not define Isohaline. Olodo Agbaye  

So you feel Erosion and deforestation is only discussed in Geography, even linking my knowledge base with defining isohaline  . . . You be confirm mumu . . . I can now see you are one of those crappy management or arts student ( If you have even entered a tertiary school yet ) trying to go on a head on collision with a bio-scientist . . how did you hope to fare . . .

Seanet1000:

You are a cretin! In your  isi ewu brain what is the aftermath of Plants not being able to get nutrients to survive on do? Can you survive without food?

Seanet1000:

Your own solution will also be appreciated.

Kobojunkie:

You live in a democracy and you still ask "What do we do?" You already hired people to do something about this - - GOVERNMENT! So, are you trying to do the job for them now? Or are you a millionaire that you want to use your money to do solve the problem of erosion in Anambra state?

Gbenge 77:

Ecologically,that state is a disaster in waiting

chines4:

I believe that is equally part of our problem, we want government to do everything, Nigeria government will not come until the situation is out of hand. Properties and even lives might be lost before government will even attempt to do anything. But we can stop it from getting out of hand, if we manage it on time.

COMMON SENSE [/b]anyways since it is well known that deforestation is the problem in the east) what are you going to do with that all too common solution? Or are you, as many others have PHD's at doing, come back the next thread discussing this issue to ask people for solutions, yet again? 


Smart Nairalander to everyone else : "[b]I cut my hand, and I need a doctor-- please proffer a solution!

Kobojunkie:

The #1 problem you should have is that those you elected to government are not doing the job they ought to be doing for you.

For crying out loud, you already pay these people to look for solutions and actually FIX the problems. You pay them millions each year so they can have access to experts and all they need to find and deliver solutions to you. But here you are making yourself what? Solution FINDER for your government? 

Find, if you are given the solution (which happens to be COMMON SENSE [/b]anyways since it is well known that deforestation is the problem in the east) what are you going to do with that all too common solution? Or are you, as many others have PHD's at doing, come back the next thread discussing this issue to ask people for solutions, yet again? 


Smart Nairalander to everyone else : "[b]I cut my hand, and I need a doctor-- please proffer a solution!"

chines4:

The problem is not just deforestation, there is also need for proper planning of water ways.

Kobojunkie:

Another OBVIOUS PROBLEM . . . with so many OBVIOUS solutions . . . and you were asking people to proffer solutions again why?

chines4:

You want people to sit down and wait for government to proffer solutions?. Have they finished sharing Ghana must go in Abuja?. I still believe that we can still team together to fight erosion with or without government help.

Kobojunkie:

The #1 problem you should have is that those you elected to government are not doing the job they ought to be doing for you.

[size=13pt] For crying out loud, you already pay these people to look for solutions and actually FIX the problems. You pay them millions each year so they can have access to experts and all they need to find and deliver solutions to you. But here you are making yourself what? Solution FINDER for your government? [/size]

Find, if you are given the solution (which happens to be COMMON SENSE [/b]anyways since it is well known that deforestation is the problem in the east) what are you going to do with that all too common solution? Or are you, as many others have PHD's at doing, come back the next thread discussing this issue to ask people for solutions, yet again? 


Smart Nairalander to everyone else  : "[b]I cut my hand, and I need a doctor-- please proffer a solution!"

chines4:

You want people to sit down and wait for government to proffer solutions?. Have they finished sharing Ghana must go in Abuja?. I still believe that we can still team together to fight erosion with or without government help.