Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Truefaith: 11:17am On Jun 05, 2022 |
Unforgiveness is not really subtle: it is at the core of true Christianity.That is what Christ taught in Matthew 18:21-35, among so many other places. It is also wrong teaching that doing God's will is onerous or difficult. That is a sign that the person has not experienced Christ's forgiveness, himself. 1 Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.www.thetruechristianfaith.com
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Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Weezy463: 11:22am On Jun 05, 2022 |
Oluwapresley: The issue with Christianity is ignorance. Many Christians like the OP don't know what the Bible teaches and that's why even as Christians, we still talk about heaven or hell.
Some other OP will come again and say another sin that will take "Christians" to hell is drinking or masturbation.
I always ask, what's the difference between a Christian and an unbeliever if we both have to strive to go to heaven? The Bible says God loved the world and gave his Son for us that if we believe, we shall not die but have everlasting life. Then Christians come and say again that that's not enough still. That you have to also do this and do that.
But Galatians says oh yeah stupid Galatians, how do you think you can finish with works or by flesh what you started in spirit.
As Christians, the debate shouldn't be hell or heaven again but how to win souls for Christ. The Bible teaches that believing is what takes you to heaven. The book of Hebrews says Abraham believed and it was counted to him as righteousness.
Christians, read your bibles and stop being tossed to and fro like the wind by every doctrine. Win souls for an invented character?? |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by clericuzzio(m): 11:22am On Jun 05, 2022 |
jesusjnr2020: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell
It is unforgiveness because Jesus said:
Matthew 6:14-15 (KJV)
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Moreover, this saying of Jesus was in addition to what He had already said about forgiveness in His teaching about how to pray.
Matthew 6:12 (KJV)
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
However despite the emphasis Jesus placed on the matter of forgiveness, that He reiterated it to show how important it was, many who claim to be His followers still take it lightly, as if Jesus was making a big deal about nothing or didn't know what He was talking about.
The deceptive thing about unforgiveness is its very subtle nature. It seems as though it's normal and not a consequential sin as the others which could take a person to hell, hence many Christians taking it for granted.
However unknown to them, is the fact that it is perhaps the biggest and most influential sin of all, because it's a sin that has the capacity to retain every other sin one has committed, including those one had repented of, as God would not forgive anyone his trespasses if he doesn't forgive others theirs as Jesus had said.
And if God doesn't forgive a person his own sins because he doesn't forgive others theirs, that means the person is surely hell bound.
That's what makes unforgiveness such a dangerous sin.
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Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by elfiddy(m): 11:35am On Jun 05, 2022 |
With a book to record their sins too ReacherSaidNoth: The christian god is a massive hypocrite. He tells his followers to love and forgive their enemies, but guess who created an eternal torture chamber for his own enemies ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) 1 Like |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Bennycollins: 11:36am On Jun 05, 2022 |
DropsMic: The only reason the black man embraced the white man's religion is because he is a simpleton who loves rewards and fears alot.
Unlike our traditional religion which didn't have a heaven or a hell, the white man's religion came with the two of them. So they went around telling our people that Living their life the right way wasn't enough, that they will burn in hell if they didnt give their life to Jesus, but that if they did, they will live forever in heaven. And then our dumb forefathers embraced the Gods of men who came to enslave them.
. I think you are more dumb than your forefathers, yes for you not to think that what makes you more enlightened( if you think you are) than your forefathers was also brought by the white men. You can read and post here courtesy of same white men. God made it so, choosing one person to bring another in darkness to light is normal. It beats me how people read books some of which were written by so called white men and think they have become too knowledgeable to adopt western idealogies. Ok, why not stop reading and return to the shrines and deities of you forefathers, killing twins and all that since you are not simpleton and fearless? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Someoneschild2: 11:39am On Jun 05, 2022 |
No one is entitled to forgiveness.
There is a punishment for every crime and if you're to be punished for a crime you committed,accept it with dignity.
If you choose to let a wrong done to you slide, that will not be a yardstick for everyone.
If God wanted me to be an angel, he'd have simply created me as one. No one will be condemned to hell because he acted the way he was created. |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by NwaIgboBoy(m): 11:39am On Jun 05, 2022 |
Sex go carry slot of people enter hail ooo |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Emmanuel909090: 11:42am On Jun 05, 2022 |
Wird |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by baretalk: 11:47am On Jun 05, 2022 |
Not fighting for justice, seeking self righteousness with no works of sacrifice...hypocrisy and prosperity based... |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Burruchaga71(m): 11:50am On Jun 05, 2022 |
I won't comment until you tell me where hell fire and heaven is located. |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by drololaaof: 11:51am On Jun 05, 2022 |
Telling lie is common among the so called Christians including the leaders |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Splitmind: 11:52am On Jun 05, 2022 |
All Christians are going to hell because they do not follow the teachings of Allah and the Prophet (PBUH). 1 Like |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by writeprof(m): 11:55am On Jun 05, 2022 |
jesusjnr2020: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell
It is unforgiveness because Jesus said:
Matthew 6:14-15 (KJV)
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Moreover, this saying of Jesus was in addition to what He had already said about forgiveness in His teaching about how to pray.
Matthew 6:12 (KJV)
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
However despite the emphasis Jesus placed on the matter of forgiveness, that He reiterated it to show how important it was, many who claim to be His followers still take it lightly, as if Jesus was making a big deal about nothing or didn't know what He was talking about.
The deceptive thing about unforgiveness is its very subtle nature. It seems as though it's normal and not a consequential sin as the others which could take a person to hell, hence many Christians taking it for granted.
However unknown to them, is the fact that it is perhaps the biggest and most influential sin of all, because it's a sin that has the capacity to retain every other sin one has committed, including those one had repented of, as God would not forgive anyone his trespasses if he doesn't forgive others theirs as Jesus had said.
And if God doesn't forgive a person his own sins because he doesn't forgive others theirs, that means the person is surely hell bound.
That's what makes unforgiveness such a dangerous sin.
God bless However unknown to them, is the fact that it is perhaps the biggest and most influential sin of all, because it's a sin that has the capacity to retain every other sin one has committed, including those one had repented of, as God would not forgive anyone his trespasses if he doesn't forgive others theirs as Jesus had said. RhemaGod bless you OP 1 Like |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by ESTANTUS: 12:03pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
One thing I know for sure about forgiveness is that the glory of Christianity is to conquer by forgiveness |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by chatinent: 12:10pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
Always inciting fear with false teachings. |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Theama(m): 12:14pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
When forgiving seems very difficult, just pray for the person who offended you as you would for a loved one or yourself.
Somehow, the grudge starts going away. 1 Like |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by bonnyhope: 12:18pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
Create a Godly thread
And it would just be 2 pages
Children of nawaday 1 Like |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by DropsMic(m): 12:35pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
Bennycollins: . I think you are more dumb than your forefathers, yes for you not to think that what makes you more enlightened( if you think you are) than your forefathers was also brought by the white men. You can read and post here courtesy of same white men. God made it so, choosing one person to bring another in darkness to light is normal. It beats me how people read books some of which were written by so called white men and think they have become too knowledgeable to adopt western idealogies. Ok, why not stop reading and return to the shrines and deities of you forefathers, killing twins and all that since you are not simpleton and fearless?
Only one who doesn't know his history would say something like this in public... Mr man or woman, you don't need to read any book to know that our forefathers were simpletons' the fact that they not only threw away their Gods and embraced the Gods of total strangers, but also actively participated in slave trade, capturing and selling their brothers to the same white man who told them about heaven and hell is enough proof.. Also i don't need to know you personally to know that you are a simpleton too. |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by EDOLUWA: 12:53pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
The fact is that Forgiveness is very key to making heaven 1 Like |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by LordJessie10(m): 12:59pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
Hell is a place for everybody that dies. No this and know peace |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Florasilver: 1:04pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
You are very correct my brother. May God help us to crucified the flesh and walk by the spirit at all times in Jesus name. 1 Like |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Anumorigba1: 1:07pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
jesusjnr2020: Unforgiveness has taken even some of the least expected souls to hell.
Only a few of such ones have been fortunate to have escaped hell, just because they were given a second chance to make amends.
One of them was the founder of the RCCG, Rev Josiah Olufemi Akindayomi. After he first died, he was told his portion was hell because of the same unforgiveness. So it took another opportunity of life, for him to come back do the right thing, and forgive those who trespassed against him as Jesus had instructed, for him not to end up there.
Another was a pastor who goes by the name of Daniel Ekechukwu. Below is an excerpt of his own testimony after he was sent back to earth from hell to warn men that hell was real:
"The angel said to me, 'Daniel, if the book of your life was to be closed today, this would be your portion.' This was completely shattering news to me. I said to the angel, 'No. I am a pastor. I am a child of God. I am born again. And I have preached all over this country.' The angel said sternly, 'Enough, Daniel. On the way to the first hospital you were asking God to forgive you. But you would not forgive your wife. Therefore your sins have not been forgiven. It is a matter of reaping what you have sown. You cannot show unforgiveness to your wife, and reap forgiveness from God.' 'I realized that the judgment was true for me, because I was angry with my wife, and I believed. God judged my heart so the angel said to me that, since I did not forgive my wife, I was not forgiven. I was crying, and said, "See how I destroyed my soul." While I was shouting and crying, I was afraid, and was covered in my own tears. I experienced panic because of the horror of Hell. If God wanted to send me to Hell, then nothing could prevent Him. While we were discussing this thousands of people were being sent to Hell.'"
Now these are instances we only came to know about because they were given a second chance to right their wrongs, so just imagine how many pastors and christians that we don't know about, who are in hell today just because they did not heed the sayings of Jesus concerning forgiveness?
God bless. as it was written in the Bible... Only jesus christ died and rose up. We are bond to die once in a lifetime. It was only Jesus had the opportunity to die and rose... Mind you none of the named prophet in the Bible had such privilege. Nobody ever died to see the hell, ontill the judgement day ire o. |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Bennycollins: 1:09pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
DropsMic:
Only one who doesn't know his history would say something like this in public...
Mr man or woman, you don't need to read any book to know that our forefathers were simpletons' the fact that they not only threw away their Gods and embraced the Gods of total strangers, but also actively participated in slave trade, capturing and selling their brothers to the same white man who told them about heaven and hell is enough proof..
Also i don't need to know you personally to know that you are a simpleton too. " A man can only be divorced from his religion ( a congenital one especially) if he finds that his religion unhelpful in anyway". Wisdom is not taught in school. You can see how worthwhile the ancestral religions were to them. Did the foriegners force their religion on our forefathers at gun point? Which history has taught you that the same missionaries that brought Christianity or any other were the one who bought slaves?? 2 Likes |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Ken4Christ: 1:11pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
jesusjnr2020: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell
It is unforgiveness because Jesus said:
Matthew 6:14-15 (KJV)
For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Moreover, this saying of Jesus was in addition to what He had already said about forgiveness in His teaching about how to pray.
Matthew 6:12 (KJV)
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
However despite the emphasis Jesus placed on the matter of forgiveness, that He reiterated it to show how important it was, many who claim to be His followers still take it lightly, as if Jesus was making a big deal about nothing or didn't know what He was talking about.
The deceptive thing about unforgiveness is its very subtle nature. It seems as though it's normal and not a consequential sin as the others which could take a person to hell, hence many Christians taking it for granted.
However unknown to them, is the fact that it is perhaps the biggest and most influential sin of all, because it's a sin that has the capacity to retain every other sin one has committed, including those one had repented of, as God would not forgive anyone his trespasses if he doesn't forgive others theirs as Jesus had said.
And if God doesn't forgive a person his own sins because he doesn't forgive others theirs, that means the person is surely hell bound.
That's what makes unforgiveness such a dangerous sin.
God bless Others are; 1. Consistent abstinence from fellowship - Hebrews 10:25-31. 2. Ignoring the help of the needy or your brethren - Matthew 25:31-46. 3. Unproductiveness or lukewarmness - John 15:1-2, 6, Revelation 3:16. 4. Hatred - 1st John 3:15. |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Divoc19(f): 1:18pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
Greed for me |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by SweetDipBenny(m): 1:22pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
To forgive is an issue. To forget na e be the problem |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by tradepunter: 1:28pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
Lust |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Mikee19(m): 1:38pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
ReacherSaidNoth: The christian god is a massive hypocrite. He tells his followers to love and forgive their enemies, but guess who created an eternal torture chamber for his own enemies ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) He is not a weak God. He can love and sentence a just punishment regardless of his love. Like he did Jesus for man's sins. Justice. Not weakness |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by Nobody: 1:39pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
hopefulLandlord: Christians and their fear fuelled hell preaching again?
Hell always sounded like a cynical marketing ploy designed to make people afraid to leave or displease the particular sect. And it seemed to really kill empathy - 'god says they burn, they burn' doesn't make me think of someone being full of love and compassion and all that.
Eternal punishment for finite transgressions always seemed abusive to me. How can someone look at the idea of a being who would condemn people to that and call it love?
Even when I was a Christian Hell was just too weird for me to accept. Infinite punishment for finite offenses is an eye for an eye on steroids. Punishing people for disobeying nit-picky rules makes God an abusive parent. One reason often given for punishment is to teach the offender not to offend again, but if punishment is eternal then how can the offender benefit from this teaching? Jesus is supposed to be into forgiveness but forgiveness shouldn't involve eternal suffering. Hell isn’t redemptive, it isn’t leading to repentance, it’s simply pain for pain’s sake.
I love this quote: “Heaven and hell seem out of proportion to me: the actions of men do not deserve so much.”
and of course I get the rationalisation of hell by Christians saying its moral accountability and saying bad people go to hell; that's nonsense and they know it!!!
If Yahweh is real and omniscient, that means he already decided that we're going to hell before he even created us. But if this omniscient deity allows for deathbed conversions, then it doesn't matter what kind of life you lead. You could be a brutal dictator who massacred tens of millions of people, yet still get into heaven if you tell Jesus you're sorry. Your victims could all go to hell for eternity if they never repented. That's how bleeped up Christian morality is.
Maybe Christians can answer a few questions for me. The Bible says that there is ONLY ONE way to get into Heaven: by accepting salvation through Jesus.
So it follows that the Christians who ran the Nazi death camps can get into heaven. But their 6 million Jewish victims must burn for all eternity in the pits of Hell. I've talked to many Christians about this and they just pretty much accept it.
My questions are:
1. How f***ed up do you have to be to believe Nazis can go to Heaven but their 6 million Jewish victims must burn? That's just sick. But Christians believe it. What the f*** is wrong with you people?
2. Why would ANYONE willingly worship a god that would act like that? Is it just a fear thing (better known as cowardice)? And
3. Even if you get into Heaven what makes you think you'll be safe with a psycho god like that running the place? What's to stop your god getting a wild hair up his ass one day and sending Christians to a place so bad it makes Hell look like an ice cream parlor? He used to like the Jews too. Or so the story claims. What makes you think you're safe? You are writing all these things because you felt you are comfortable , wait until one day you see the other side of life and all your effort is not yielding solution then you will know the scores. The rich also cry |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by AZControversial(m): 1:42pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
Spaxon: Forgiving is not the thing.
Teach them how to forget too.
Because if we indeed forgive.
We will Forget the scars too.
That's way more better If i may... Forgiveness only stops you from having a grudge or revenge. Forgetting is not as easy. Because if the offender does it again nko 1 Like |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by hopefulLandlord: 1:45pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
Batam:
You are writing all these things because you felt you are comfortable , wait until one day you see the other side of life and all your effort is not yielding solution then you will know the scores. The rich also cry You're making great assumptions bro |
Re: Unforgiveness: One Subtle Sin That Would Take Many Christians To Hell by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:51pm On Jun 05, 2022 |
fasho01: God help me to no longer be unforgiving Amen! |