jmaine:

You imported your prejudice here . . .the rule of the game is to debunk claims with available references/sources for authenticity . . . I put up the link to avoid forum members labelling it a lie, due to no link to buttress my point . . . Sanusi lied  that he invited them for a hearing and they declined . . . The people he accused said such never happened . .they were already scheduled to have a meeting with their unique agenda to be discussed . . .Sanusi felt he could gate crash in there to truncate their meeting just to say what he had to say .  . . .and they said no . .sorry, we have an agenda already for the meeting, and provisions for you can't be accommodated now . . .But what did Lord Sanusi do . . .he twisted the story so that people can  caress him and say well done . . .

[size=11pt]So are you trying to tell me in clear terms that while in the middle of a presumed important meeting . . Sanusi impromptu demands should have sailed through . . . and for what reasons  must that occur . . . . Why did he have to twist the episode to curry false sympathy  to himself . . .and the vocal Sanusi i know would have punctured Oritsejafor claims if they were lies . . .You simply need to accept it when someone fails himself like he did when he lied   . . .   There is simply no excuse for you to cover this lie by terming it hear say   . . .

texazzpete:

If you people truly want to keep religion out of State matters, then please go and demand that our tax money is not used to send people to Mecca or Jerusalem.
Also, if not for religious sentiments, why are Churches exempt from tax in Nigeria?

We all have agreed that state sponsorship of pilgrimage activities shouldn't have been institutionalized in the first place and is a waste of resources . . . If we had been practicing democracy without the rude intervention of the khaki men  . . . . our constitution would have been much better than the Military inspired decree we term as constitution . . .
The tax issue concerns all religious and non profit organization . . . and not just churches . . .was the tax exemption coined from a biblical phrase . . more like Christian tax exemption . . .instead of just tax exemption . . .  The churches not paying tax does not mean their registered businesses like the covenant university and Madonna would be tax free . . . or are they not paying taxes despite their affiliation with the said churches  . . . .

texazzpete:


Perhaps we should even legalize homosexuality sef. afterall, it's only our religious values that makes us abhor this act, is it not?

Good logic    . . .Even at the[b] cultural level [/b]we all frown at this .  . . But with the UN resolution . . .if they feel they are ready and bold to fight for their right . . . then  . . .the secularism would be further questioned and it will largely depend on how sophisticated and liberal the society becomes . . . But this scenario na complete gbege oo! 

texazzpete:


As i said before, all we have to go by now is Oritsejafor's word. I do not trust him implicitly so I cannot swallow his story hook, line and sinker.

texazzpete:

One important fact from his largely uninspiring ramble is that the CBN HQ and the CAN secretariat are next door to each other. If Islamic banking was such a critical issue to him and his 'constituency', why has he not troubled himself to set up an appointment and walk across for a visit to discuss all the issues?

texazzpete:


He certainly has no issue with going over to Aso Rock to hobnob with the President. 

If the President demands his attention through a proper channel of invitation  . . .why won't he respond . . . after all, the president demands it  . . .  The president would never like to gate crash an on going meeting of excos just to have an audience with the CAN members ala Sanusi style . . .the difference between both scenario is proper [/b]and [b]sincere process of invitation . . .

texazzpete:


Read his interview. Not only does he display a thorough lack of understanding on the basic facts concerning Islamic banking as a concept and execution around the world, it's clear he does not understand how he himself is injecting ordinary Nigerians with paranoia.

Reading that article is subjective , Me sef read am and there were salients questions he asked that requires answers for the proponents of this banking principle . . with Sanusi the chief proponent . . .The reps would have dished out some of those questions other than being bamboozled to submission    . . his hypnosis was so strong . . .he earned a resounding applause from people who were supposed to scrutinize whatever he said    . .  Did they get so fed up with his lecture or terminologies that they were itching to go home to their affluence banked on fraud and waste . . so his ending was a relief to them akin to a boring speaker (Subjective to intellectually low minds) who receives a resounding applause from his indifferent listeners as a form of saying thank you for not wasting our time any longer    . . .

all4naija:

They demand for change from the formal oppressing regime(the type you admire -without questioning) to a more democratic, self governing system that encompasses secular state ideas. Keep fooling yourself.  Islam has failed Arabs. It is going to fail in Nigeria too.

You are more than pathetic. What made you think you are learned here is only in your silly head that you can't reason with - simple reason you are brainwashed by religion.It is sad a so called learned can't use his brain to understand that Islam is just another people tradition. Islam sucks that is it! Boohoo!

It's very interesting watching you exercise your ignorance here. I think most people will laugh at you after reading your argument.

edicolove:

I always say that ignorance is the biggest problem in Naija. The point of this whole thing is that the Nigerian state is a secular state and should never be seen supporting any religion. The involvement of the CBN as as a state owned institution in Islamic banking simply negates that principle and sets a precedence for many problems that could lead the country into serious problems in the future. That is why some people have come out to say the issue could cause Naija to disintegrate and they are very correct. Several years ago, churches wanted to register and own radio and TV stations. They were told clearly that they could not since Nigeria is a circular state. These churches had to go to south Africa to setup these stations. Their programs on TV are even monitored and they are told that they cannot show certain things on TV. Inspirational FM in Lagos was almost closed down because they were accused of playing too much Christian music and that the society was a circular one. So tell me how this same circular society with all these restrictions on Christian content is suddenly now sponsoring an Islamic bank. Please forget the non-interest name tag. It is Islamic banking. The only reason for giving someone a non-interest loan is because you want something else from him. These are fundamental strategies for pushing Islam around the world. I do not mean it is wrong. I just dont agree that the government should be the one championing it. If Moslem leaders have resources and want to use it to push Islam, that is fine, but the government is a circular one and should not be pushing these things. This is a dangerous trend which if not checked will bring this country to a halt.

Hmmmm, the Nigerian secular state organisation is NOT sponsoring an Islamic bank. CBN as a regulator is setting out policies and guidelines for the operations of Islamic banking in Nigeria.

edicolove:

and your argument is? so why did they stop the running of Christian TV and radio stations? They should not set agenda for anything religious. IT IS A SECULAR STATE. And just to correct you, if there is a problem with the bank tomorrow, will the CBN not bail them out? Will they not be part of the Nigerian deposit insurance scheme? We need to be truthful in our dealings or we should just split.

jmaine:

Since Sanusi has not said anything to the contrary despite his recent jibes at the CAN clerics . . .then Pastor Ayo explanations remains valid by default . . .

jmaine:


Reading that article is subjective , Me sef read am and there were salients questions he asked that requires answers for the proponents of this banking principle . . with Sanusi the chief proponent . . .The reps would have dished out some of those questions other than being bamboozled to submission    . . his hypnosis was so strong . . .he earned a resounding applause from people who were supposed to scrutinize whatever he said    . .  Did they get so fed up with his lecture or terminologies that they were itching to go home to their affluence banked on fraud and waste . . so his ending was a relief to them akin to a boring speaker (Subjective to intellectually low minds) who receives a resounding applause from his indifferent listeners as a form of saying thank you for not wasting our time any longer    . . .

texazzpete:

Sanusi told the legislators that he had tried to reach out to the CAN leadership but what . So his words still stand.

texazzpete:

This is double speak o! The legislators had already agreed to close early for that day to mourn their colleague. On one hand you side with Oritsejafor that not even an important chance to assail Sanusi with questions was more important than sticking to schedule, then you turn around and excoriate the Reps for sticking to their schedules too.
Bros be consistent Grin

texazzpete:

It's such a shame one of your intelligence is falling prey to this unneccessary paranioa, but we will see if you cannot yet be saved

edicolove:

^^^The stupidity of your post is that we might soon be in different countries just like was predicted. 2015 is not far away you know. You will then have all the sharia you want and help setup Alqaeda bases. You or your children might even end up as suicide bombers you know. sounds great, doesn't it?

BIGER BOY:

and if i may ask why cant CAN just invite the CBN governor am sure he will gladly accept the iv

texazzpete:

God bless you jo!

@Jmaine
Oya, what is stopping CAN from inviting Sanusi to discuss the merits, demerits and issues surrounding Islamic banking? Why has Oritsejafor not moved to set a date for dialogue instead of running to the press all the time?
Someone is more interested in appearing publicly to be a dogged and relentless fighter for Christian issues instead of doing the actual job?

jmaine:

That would be a laudable move by CAN . . .but the proponent of a project or regulation is most likely the initiator of a dialogue session or submit to educate and clear all doubts partaining to it's commision . . . not that am hinging on the fact that it must be Sanusi initiative . . . CAN can as well do the noble task of inviting Sanusi for crucial clear the air discussions . . . The main issue we are having here is a function personality friction . . . Pastor Oritsejafor is not your docile and diplomatic CAN president . . He tells you the way it is . . .and Sanusi is equally an head strong,very confident man carrying about his affairs in a macho style . . . Someone has to reach out to the other which is a fact . . .it could either be Oritsejafor or Sanusi . . But someone must def initiate it . . . And since Sanusi is the accused for now . . He has a lot to do to quell such negative vibes against him . . .so the onus is on him to reach out to others . . . . .

And by the way,are regulations not meant to be in place before licences are issued . . . Cos as an operator you need to know what is required of you before you apply for a licence . . . Or could it be the same paranoia symptoms

Akainzo:

Hmmmm, the Nigerian secular state organisation is NOT sponsoring an Islamic bank. CBN as a regulator is setting out policies and guidelines for the operations of Islamic banking in Nigeria.

all4naija:

Look at this abominable thwart or rather unreasonable adult!

Can't you get it into your head that the legislative supersedes CBN,apart from that there is no any injunction from the judicial that Islamic Banking can be operated in the country.

Mofo!

Your ideology sucks just like your religion!