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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nezzjnr: 9:56am On Oct 12, 2022 |
You guys hype Wike a lot sha |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:57am On Oct 12, 2022 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 9:59am On Oct 12, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Every single thing you've said is public knowledge of the issue. There is no solving of the problem if the people put in place do not take responsibility or consequences are not dished out to them. So you blame GEJ for showing these boys our maps ND yet we didn't witness this level of stealing with the same GEJ government till he left. So what exactly have you said that is a solution unlike what I said? At this point you should have ignored me sef because you just typed plenty known rubbish... 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:03am On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: What would you consider a plan? Lets be honest, would you know the scope of the problem fully without proper access? The government is known for propaganda and I don't expect OBI or even atiku to provide a proper solution until they are inside. So let's wait.. Atleast he was the first presidential candidate amongst the main 2 (him and atiku ) to talk about the fact government is responsible for stealing oil. Campaign just started and he'll talk more about it. God will keep us till then 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 10:03am On Oct 12, 2022 |
This is Kaduna before somebody will tell you that el-Rufai has done nothing years later when he seeks election as President of Nigeria. 1 Like
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:12am On Oct 12, 2022 |
liveLongNprospa: If you don't know Nigeria's problem before being inside, you really should not be there. All i see is a man who would get there, and begin to sing the problems for the next 8 years (We have seen this movie before) Obi is not coming to solve anything, my brother |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:12am On Oct 12, 2022 |
You complain about the cost of government.. But you still say its impossible to cut the same cost of governance.. So wtf are you complaining in the first place..are you not a mad person? We talked about something as simple as salaries of the nass members. Or the government agencies and parastatals that don't remit anything reasonable. Infact we have complained about having too many government agencies doing the same thing. Some body has shown before that he has experience in cuting these WASTAGE. The man still has 4 months of talking to do.. Be patient else you end up looking like a fool. . The person that doesn't know he likes penis is calling someone Gen Z . Haq haq 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:14am On Oct 12, 2022 |
liveLongNprospa: So you blame GEJ for showing these boys our maps ND yet we didn't witness this level of stealing with the same GEJ government till he left. like i said - you know nothing https://thenationonlineng.net/shell-we-lost-over-50m-to-oil-thieves-vandals-in-2014-2/ i told you to google nigeria oil theft, but as expected you are just waffling, falling over yourself in excitement because you are just becoming aware of a problem that has bedeviled the oil industry for the past decade. nigeria has been designated in foreign journals as the world capital of oil theft for several years. as others with more thinking than you have pointed out, it is a multifaceted issue involving communities, crooked business men, oil workers, security agencies . but like Obi - your answer to the issue is a two liner - because like obi - you think it begins and ends with tapping from an oil pipeline. at least there were no silly smileys this time. maybe you're actually attempting to grow up. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:17am On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: Read what I wrote again.. I never said he doesn't know anything.. I said he would know everything when he gets in.. I have gone on to say this campaign is 4months long and he will talk more on these issues. But if you honestly believe the man who is known to cut and save like a stingy person won't do anything.. Then I'd advice you don't bother having this convo coz it seems you are convinced Nigeria is doomed.. So I can't help you . When you think the country has hope then come back and have a conversation with me 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:25am On Oct 12, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Again you have not said anything that's not known. During PDP, boys dey go vandalise pipelines normally and yet our general production of crude still didn't fall below the 2m barrels daily on average. Oga if you are not coming to this convo with something new then abeg shift .. Incase you need a reminder look at the image below 3 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:25am On Oct 12, 2022 |
liveLongNprospa: I actually don't hold you responsible for Obi's plans so i won't debate with you. You are just like me; people hoping to be served. But if you really think the problem of oil theft can be solved by Investigation and Addressing, then i really cant help you This is an old doc of oil thefts in the SS. Almost everybody has their hands in the cookie jar. Even the bunkerers go as far as Cotonou to sell it, as it is a more profitable market. I am not even a president, but there are enough answers everywhere and on the streets to work with, yet Obi needs to go in first, before he has answers. I have seen this movie before. It was in 2015 i watched it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OfHGtSkZG8 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:29am On Oct 12, 2022 |
liveLongNprospa: The least you can do is post a link to your source. Is that too much to ask? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:29am On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: You should probably go read what I wrote when I first replied you. Everything you've said is known but yet we don't know all the players. Since APC came in, we have gone below what we produce... How is that possible.. Doesn't that tell you and every other person that APC took this level of crude stealing to a different level... In August we lost a whopping 3million barrels... For the first time since civilian rule we didn't make a dime from oil boom.. Even the people that steal have not seen this level of oil stealing before. Izzou how is that hard for you to understand? 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:32am On Oct 12, 2022 |
liveLongNprospa: You are repeating the problem, again and again. I am asking for the solution....And the solution you gave me is to repeat the problem. Your next quote will be to repeat the problem again. Just watch |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:33am On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: Everybody will just pay lip service to the issue. Look at PH. Kpofire is obviously from stolen crude, is an environmental disaster that may lead to a cancer epidemic 10 years from now, but wike under whose watch it started, and whose reinstated thugs definetly have their hands in it, is doing nothing The only reason why there is a focus is because Nigeria is well and truly broke. Same reason why yeye bellow is chasing dangote. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:37am On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: I gave you few solutions I think and told you that he would get into government to fully understand the scale of this current oil stealing. This is not like what anyone has done before. Buhari na minister of Petroleum and till now we are only just knowing about the levels of stealing going on. Tony Elumelu came on twitter to scream because my guy was wondering how field that was suppose to produce 200k BD was losing over 80%. Let nobody lie to you. This level of oil theft is unprecedented 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 10:46am On Oct 12, 2022 |
liveLongNprospa: And thats why i dont want us to debate about anything: It is your solution. But if a presidential hopeful is waiting to win before he knows the solution, we are heading for another disaster. Like i said, i have seen this movie before |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 10:47am On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: And I also said this election has 4 months to go ND be patient... He will talk about it. Again you are sure you read what I wrote or you have already made up your mind? 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 10:49am On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: Maybe we will have 9 months before ministers are appointed this time Pillars of my administration intensifies |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 10:59am On Oct 12, 2022 |
liveLongNprospa: If you knew anything about your country, you would understand why cutting salaries of NASS members is anything but simple. The Nigerian Constitution as defined by the NASS you're talking about said this about their Renumeration Package "A member of the Senate or of the House of Representatives shall receive such salary and other allowances as Revenue Mobilisation Allocation and Fiscal Commission may determine" - Nigerian Constitution chapter 5-part 1 section 70 http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm In other words the only body that can define NASS Salary by law is RMAFC Now, RMAFC members comprise of (a) a Chairman; and (b) one member from each State of the Federation and the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja who in opinion of President are persons of unquestionable integrity with requisite qualification and experience. By virtue of Sections 154(1) and 156(3) of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (As Amended), Members of the Commission are appointed by the President subject to the confirmation of the Senate for a period of five (5) years https://rmafc.gov.ng/establishing-law/ Essentially, NASS determine who can set their salary, not the President. So how is President Obi going to get NASS to agree to cut down on their wages? If you spent more time actually understanding the huge mess facing that country, instead of training your gag reflex on virtual phallus, maybe you would be able to understand why a lot of us here are not buying Obi's middling soundbites. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by nihilistjnr: 11:08am On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: Presidential Hopeful cannot proffer any solutions because there are none to offer. How can Obi say what he intends to do when he doesnt have a single LP member in NASS. Not one. It was in front of our eyes that Saraki delayed Buhari's annual budged for almost 8 months. Like where do you even start from? Obi knows this and what he's hoping to do is to freestyle and inshallah hoping he gets there and finds a way to roku something. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:10am On Oct 12, 2022 |
nihilistjnr: Hmmmmmm.. I wonder how the cutting cost of wages would happen. You, a citizen was able to pull out this problem from your computer, but Obi needs to win election to discover it. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:12am On Oct 12, 2022 |
nihilistjnr: We are fcked in this country. Seriously, irredeemably fcked 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:21am On Oct 12, 2022 |
liveLongNprospa:Bros you really do have time on your hands, na you no know their strategy dey answer dem. Fencists or those trying to form some kind of funny objectivity are the most annoying I swear. It's 4 months to the election and till today we haven't heard anything from Tinubu yet these guys will come here and start nitpicking on Peter Obi's talks...you really get time dey answer dem I swear. At this point, everyone should do what pleases them...it's very very obvious that those supporting Tinubu are doing so because of one form of bias or the other...all this talk of objectivity na scope. A candidate that has been either showing obvious signs of ill health, out of the country or have as his major highlights him attacking opponents or parties is who these guys are propping up yet with Peter Obi na there dem go remember say dem sabi objectivity...clowns. Last time Tinubu was out, his major talking point was saying those asking for a change should be told to shut up...no plans, no talk on strategy, nothing, just vibes and crass bahavior from a man well into his 70's. Bros, forget objectivity, all these objevtivity dem dey form na just scope. 4 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 11:24am On Oct 12, 2022 |
I remember interviews on CNN where GEJ and Okonjo-Iweala were grilled why 400,000 barrels of crude were disappearing daily no satisfactory answer was given. The oil industry can only be salvaged when the criminal elements are made to understand it's in everyone's interest to let things work well so that the largesse can go round. I think Raumdeuter put it succinctly using the illustration of cooking a pot of porridge. Prepare enough to cater for 'awon boys' so that they won't distrupt your own operation and their own feeding as well. GloriousGbola: |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:28am On Oct 12, 2022 |
nihilistjnr: this was actually the reason i voted Buhari in 2019 - because he wound up spending his entire first term fighting saraki and his gang of fith columnists . unfortunately, his first act upon winning was to go full dictator - arresting sowore 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 11:38am On Oct 12, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: The money is there to be stolen from the state purse either ways and there's nothing me, you or anyone can do about it. If he however decides to use it to empower 14000 people while still dealing with Atiku, I have no problem with that. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:56am On Oct 12, 2022 |
nihilistjnr: I have said the man is trump lite We will start hearing about Nigerian deep state. He will just use a naija term for it. The saboteurs or the 'vandals' (if you know you know). 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 12:07pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
Theflint1: OH I understand you.. Which is why I won't waste time in trying to convince someone addicted to the male Instruments or a tribalist or a coward doc or an emotional agbado supporter . Izzou asked a reasonable question and I had to reply... The others I mentioned can fvck off 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 12:08pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
izzou: If we are irredeemably fvcked bro, then why bother about anything going on during this election? 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 12:09pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: I have said repeatedly that Wike is simply patience Johnathans greek gift to pdp. He was elevated because of her beef with amaechi. It is that same completely unnecessary beef that forced a performing governor and his treasury into the arms of APC. Wike has no emotional intelligence and thinks money buys loyalty. He is also unable to think strategically. There is no way oga 'rivers is a christian state' would have bagged the pdp nomination. The man is fking radioactive. He pissed off northerners, he pissed off Easterners. In less than 5 months he fell out with obaseki. It is under his watch that the thugs amaechi retired came back in full force. Also under his watch that port Harcourt became the future world capital of lung cancer and the danger of 'local' refineries has been fully highlighted. However he does have a case. If atiku loses, this is the end of pdp as those going along with violation of gentlemans agreement are doing so in the hope of future federal money and positions. Without that and with Atiku back to dubai, the SS states will either demand control of the party, or break away and leave tambuwal and Co to finance pdp |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:20pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
obainojazz: 10k what? AUD? If na 10k Australian Dollars count me in |
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