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We Are All Human! by thankless(m): 6:01pm On Jul 05, 2022
When you see the faces on the image attached to this post what comes to your mind? �

For many Nigerians it is; "Ha!!!!? �... They are great and anointed men of God o, they carry grace, God called them specially and gave them a commission", blah blah blah...

Well, for me they are just another group of successful Nigerians! And like any other human being, they are flesh and blood. In fact, just as the kitchen kitten or cat who falls in the same group as the lion, Cheetah etc, all of whom belong to the cat family, these men, like everyone of us, belong in the hominid family, and all of us, sapiens (that's humans), gibbons, orangutan, apes, gorilla, chimpanzees etc, are cousins! At least science as shown that humans and chimps share a surprising 98.8 percent of their DNA, and so whether we like it or not, we and those creatures are cousins!

So, for me these are ordinary men, successful, yes, but exactly in the sense that a Wizkid or a Davido is successful because fans contribute so much to what they are today. They sell a service; entertainment, exactly the same way these men sell religion!

As for carrying anointing, well, it depends on what you mean by the word anointing, for me, they do not carry anything �. In fact, they are like any other human being, and in some respect, even worse! If they carry anything at all, it is their charisma, ability to talk people into buying thier ideas, the inability of most Nigerians to rigorously question what they are told, the content of their character, etc, and nothing more!

And just like the average human being, good and bad can happen to any of them and at anytime for that matter! And the good or bad that can happen to them has no bearing whatsoever on spirituality...the good or the bad is dependent on other factors! For example, if any of them boasts of good health, it is because they have access to the best medical care, healthy living coach and nutrition, etc, simple!

The late, great Pentecostal sage Archbishop Benson Idahosa of blessed memory, the greatest of them all if you ask me, and arguably the most spiritual, was on a preaching assignment when he died! It was reported that even is wife had left him abroad, only to wake up to the shocking news of his passing. Meaning, she had no inkling what was coming! But some of his church members would later find joy spreading rumour that he had resurrected, when that didn't fly, they said he knew he was going to die �. Well, I am sure if we have a way of bringing Papa ldahosa back to life today and get a chance to ask if he really wanted to die when he did, I am very sure baba will say "no be so ooo!" �

Pastor Kumuyi of Deeper Life, someone who's for years now put a reset on the brains of many of his followers, was preaching at a miracle crusade when his own wife, of blessed memory, who had been sick for a long time, died. In fact, when he was informed about her death and later arrived his home, one of his aide asked if they should pray and wake her up, baba was reported to have said not to worry, "let her sleep..." yet he went back to the crusade ground and began praying for others for miracles that some analysts say can't be verified!

An RCCG member once gave a testimony in which she said an handkerchief Baba Adeboye prayed over brought back her daughter in-law and her child who were dead and were by then in the mortuary, yet the same baba's son died last year, after crying, baba buried him...

For Bishop Oyedepo of Winners, on good authority, it is said that if not for his wealth, his own wife would have been dead long ago due to a certain health challenge!

See pastor Enenche for example, recently, while he was in Cameroon praying for people who claimed all manner of healings and were displaying crutches and wheelchairs, his own lead singer in his church's choir, late Osinachi, of blessed memory, whom he himself had refered to a specialist doctor, later died...yet he went to far away Cameroon to "heal" people he didn't know!

T B Joshua who, for close to two years was reported to be secretly seeing doctors abroad, was at the same time selling healing oil, holy water, etc to worshipers...baba later died too...may God rest his kind and generous soul!

Oyhakilome, with all his bravado, got involved in a messy divorce, in fact, his wife is reported to have since remarried and the reason for her calling the marriage quit, make I no talk...Chris Okotie, a man who's been accused of dealing in drugs, has come off three marriages! In fact, in the last, the woman got to know of her own divorce in church after serving him breakfast at home that Sunday morning, yet these two Edo born "great men of God" counsel married couples in their various churches, on how to keep thier homes!

Then our home boy Apostle Suleiman, after shouting "sin sin sin" in his church, he would steal to a rendezvous to have his loins well attended by a certain Otobo ��

I can go on and on, it doesn't matter which pastor you look at or how so called "spiritual" they say they are or are seen, you will see the same pattern that proves we are all the same!

Please do not get me wrong, the point is not to make jest of anyone or show insensitivity to someone's pain, NO! My point is simply that, as humans, we are fragile, weak, vain and dust! Just like rain fall on the house of the good, the bad and ugly, good or evil comes to us all, no matter who you are. Unlike Pastor Chris who has variously boasted "I cannot be sick", anyone can fall sick, including Pastor Chris! Good and bad is dependent on factors that has nothing to do with whether you are this or that, we are all humans!

Go to an average hospital today, you will find Christian and Muslims there, even pastors and imams! No one is immune! Just live well, follow your doctor's advise, wish and hope for the best, be humble and that's all!

Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 6:10pm On Jul 05, 2022
We not the first “human being”
And looking at it deeply, we not the first “Homo”, but we the first “Homo Sapien”
What does sapien mean?

Re: We Are All Human! by orisa37: 6:40pm On Jul 05, 2022
AND SELFISH. WHO SAYS OTHERWISE?
ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE HUMANS.
WE ARE ALL "AMEYIN PIRANS", SHARERS OF DELICIOUS MEAT WITH THEIR MOUTHS.
Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 2:41am On Jul 06, 2022
Maynman:
We not the first “human being”
And looking at it deeply, we not the first “Homo”, but we the first “Homo Sapien”


'Sapiens:
A Brief History of Humankind
', by Professor Yuval Noah Harari, is a very educative and good book read.

Maynman:
What does sapien mean?


Means 'one who knows'

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 7:05am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:


'Sapiens:
A Brief History of Humankind
', by Professor Yuval Noah Harari, is a very educative and good book read.



Means 'one who knows'

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Have you ever wondered why “serpent” are associated with wisdom?
Even in the Bible mythology, we see how mankind was made wise with the help of sophia the serpent.

Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 7:28am On Jul 06, 2022
Maynman:
Have you ever wondered why “serpent” are associated with wisdom?
Among quite a lot of other subjects, sure, that in the past, had been on my list

Maynman:
Even in the Bible mythology, we see how mankind was made wise with the help of sophia the serpent.
Matthew 10:16
'Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves:
be ye therefore wise as serpents,
and harmless as doves
(i.e. have no self-serving agenda)
'

We see in the Bible, how Eve was made foolish with the help of the serpent and how Adam was , in quite a number of ways, I can understand was 'wise' enough plunge ahead without necessarily the help of the serpent, even when he knows it was not be the right thing to do.

For the bible, after all does say that, Adam wasnt deceived, whereas, Eve, in contrast was deceived (i.e. she was taken in by the harmful lie the serpent perpetrated)

Adam definitely was in the know. He knew, he knew something, so the reason why he consciously chose to take from his wife and eat, as if, like a lamb led to slaughter.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:43am On Jul 06, 2022
Well we are all humans but do you know that some humans living with us now are Born Again?
YES, they were born of water and spirit just as Jesus of Nazareth promised {John 3:5-6} and they're doing wonders throughout the world today. Matthew 5:13-16
But what is special about these so called BORN AGAIN BROTHERS OF CHRIST? Matthew 25:40
Well i am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses if you want to know more ask and it will be given to you {Matthew 7:7-8} just know that in this our generation spirit filled humans are around us {Zechariah 8:23} working towards the glorious ushering of a New system of things: PARADISE! Matthew 28:20

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 7:49am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
Among quite a lot of other subjects, sure, that in the past, had been on my list

Matthew 10:16
'Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves:
be ye therefore wise as serpents,
and harmless as doves
(i.e. have no self-serving agenda)
'

We see in the Bible, how Eve was made foolish with the help of the serpent and how Adam was , in quite a number of ways, I can understand was 'wise' enough plunge ahead without necessarily the help of the serpent, even when he knows it was not be the right thing to do.

For the bible, after all does say that, Adam wasnt deceived, whereas, Eve, in contrast was deceived (i.e. she was taken in by the harmful lie the serpent perpetrated)

Adam definitely was in the know. He knew, he knew something, so the reason why he consciously chose to take from his wife and eat, as if, like a lamb led to slaughter.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Eve was without knowledge, she was foolish from the start.
If not for the serpent you’ll be dumb, that’s how the yaldaboath aka Yahweh wanted to create humans in the mythology before his mother, sophia turned into serpent to save humankind.
Sophia means wisdom, wise like a serpent indeed.

Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 7:59am On Jul 06, 2022
Maynman:
Eve was without knowledge, what did you expect?
A&E, were beneficiaries of accelerated knowledge

Maynman:
If not for the serpent you’ll be dumb, that’s how the yaldaboath wanted to create humans in the mythology.
With all due respect, this a low level sub zero reasoning remark to make.

I reiterate, Adam definitely was in the know. He knew, he knew something, so the reason why he consciously chose to take from his wife and eat, as if, like a lamb led to slaughter.

God is not dumb. So if God is not dumb, why would God want creation, made in the image of the Godhead and according to the likeness of the Godhead be dumb.

Clearly, if Adam managed to name the animals and remember their names, then means, he was never at any time dumb.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 8:01am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
With all due respect, this a low level sub zero reasoning remark to make.

I reiterate, Adam definitely was in the know. He knew, he knew something, so the reason why he consciously chose to take from his wife and eat, as if, like a lamb led to slaughter.

God is not dumb. So if God is not dumb, why would God want creation, made in the image of the Godhead and according to the likeness of the Godhead be dumb.

Clearly, if Adam managed to name the animals and remember their names, then means, he was never at any time dumb.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

With all due respect, you the one that’s ignorant of what you are saying and reasoning below the bar.
Did Adam also name the serpent? Or that existed before him?
All these animal that he “named” were created before him in the mythology, who should be doing the naming?
God is a title not a person,
If your god is Yahweh and he is all knowing and not Dumb, why is he regretting his actions?
Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 8:48am On Jul 06, 2022
Maynman:
With all due respect, you the one that’s ignorant of what you are saying and reasoning below the bar.
The truth is a bitter pill for you to swallow. Hmm?

Maynman:
Did Adam also name the serpent? Or that existed before him?
Why not. Why wouldnt he have named this particular one. The devil existed before him, and the serpent possibly too

Maynman:
All these animal that he “named” were created before him in the mythology, who should be doing the naming?
Most animals were created before hi, while some on same day he was created. He was given the privilege of naming the animals, because he was deemed fit to be capably intelligent and knowledgeable enough to successfully carry out the task.

Maynman:
God is a title not a person,
Tell me something, I dont already know

Maynman:
If your god is Yahweh and he is all knowing why is he regretting his actions?
That parlance, used in Genesis 6:6, is something you currently, dont have the capacity to understand

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 8:51am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
The truth is a bitter pill for you to swallow. Hmm?



Most animals were created before hi, while some on same day he was created. He was given the privilege of naming the animals, because he was deemed fit to be capably intelligent and knowledgeable enough to successfully carry out the task.

Tell me something, I dont already know

That parlance, used in Genesis 6:6, is something you currently, dont have the capacity to understand

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Ignorance is your truth?

The name of it in Hebrew is also called “serpent”?
Tell me something, did you think “Moses” wrote Torah?
Your indoctrinated brain really thought that?

Yahweh father is Elohim and asheera, why worship their son?
“He was deemed fit” by who? And who created him?

I ask again, if your Israelite god, Yahweh is all knowing and not Dumb, why is he regretting his actions?
Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 8:57am On Jul 06, 2022
Maynman:
Ignorance is your truth?
Tell me something, did you think “Moses” wrote Torah?
Your indoctrinated brain really thought that?

Yahweh father is Elohim and asheera, why worship their son?
“He was deemed fit” by who? And who created him?
Can you not see how unfocused you are, hmm?
Your lack of focus is a waste of energy and a waste of my precious, treasured valuable time.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 9:00am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
Can you not see how unfocused you are, hmm?
Your lack of focus is a waste of energy and a waste of my precious, treasured valuable time.

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

And can you see your glare ignorance steaming from worshipping Middle East gods especially Israelite god, hmmmm?
Your indoctrination has affected your thinking and it’s waste of time and energy arguing with a Yahweh worshipper like you.

If your god is all knowing and not dumb why is he regretting his actions, your god has emotions like humans, he is also jealous grin

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Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 9:17am On Jul 06, 2022
Maynman:
And can you see your glare ignorance steaming from worshipping Middle East gods especially Israelite god, hmmmm?
Your indoctrination has affected your thinking and it’s waste of time and energy arguing with a Yahweh worshipper like you.

If your god is all knowing and not dumb why is he regretting his actions, your god has emotions like humans, he is also jealous grin
1. So, your point is?
2. Whats your alternative to '... worshipping Middle East gods' sic?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 9:24am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
1. So, your point is?
2. Whats your alternative to '... worshipping Middle East gods' sic?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Do you know what a “god” is?
You’ve been so indoctrinated, you can’t do without worshipping deities?

And even if you want to worship Middle East gods, why worship small Yahweh of the Israelite.
It was ELohim that gifted Yahweh, israEL.

Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 9:27am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
1. So, your point is?
2. Whats your alternative to '... worshipping Middle East gods' sic?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Maynman:
Do you know what a “god” is?
You’ve been so indoctrinated, you can’t do without worshipping deities?

And even if you want to worship Middle East gods, why worship small Yahweh of the Israelite.
It was ELohim that gifted Yahweh, israEL.
Please stay focused and stay focused by answering the two questions above there. Thanks

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 9:28am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:


Please stay focused and stay focused by answering the two questions above there. Thanks

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

I know it’s hard to comprehend for you, but read slowly.

Do you know what a “god” is?
You’ve been so indoctrinated, you can’t do without worshipping deities?

And even if you want to worship Middle East gods, why worship small Yahweh of the Israelite.
It was ELohim that gifted Yahweh, israEL.

Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 9:32am On Jul 06, 2022
Maynman:
I know it’s hard to comprehend for you, but read slowly.

Do you know what a “god” is?
You’ve been so indoctrinated, you can’t do without worshipping deities?

And even if you want to worship Middle East gods, why worship small Yahweh of the Israelite.
It was ELohim that gifted Yahweh, israEL.
If you find it difficult and hard to answer those two easy, simple, direct and straightforward questions, then count me out. The moment, I see you have, I'll jump back in

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 9:34am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
If you find it difficult and hard to answer those two easy, simple, direct and straightforward questions, then count me out. The moment, I see you have, I'll jump back in

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

When you know what a “god” is and where the word comes from you can come back, don’t just be throwing words you don’t know their origin around like sheep.


Again, I know it’s hard to comprehend for you, but read slowly.

Do you know what a “god” is?
You’ve been so indoctrinated, you can’t do without worshipping deities?

And even if you want to worship Middle East gods, why worship small Yahweh of the Israelite.
It was ELohim that gifted Yahweh, israEL.

Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 9:49am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
1. So, your point is?
2. Whats your alternative to '... worshipping Middle East gods' sic?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

NNTR:
Please stay focused and stay focused by answering the two questions above there. Thanks

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

NNTR:
If you find it difficult and hard to answer those two easy, simple, direct and straightforward questions, then count me out. The moment, I see you have, I'll jump back in

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.



Maynman:
When you know what a “god” is and where the word comes from you can come back, don’t just be throwing words you don’t know their origin around like sheep.

Again, I know it’s hard to comprehend for you, but read slowly.

Do you know what a “god” is?
You’ve been so indoctrinated, you can’t do without worshipping deities?

And even if you want to worship Middle East gods, why worship small Yahweh of the Israelite.
It was ELohim that gifted Yahweh, israEL.
I know what god(s) means.
I dont do indoctrination
I unequivocally have never worshipped deities. I unequivocally do not worship deities and I unequivocally have no plans, now or in the future to worship deities.

Now being a fair minded person, I am giving you another chance, to humbly go straight to the point of addressing the two below:
1. So, your point is?
2. Whats your alternative to '... worshipping Middle East gods' sic?

The absence of replying back to the above numbered up questions, will leave you interacting with yourself on this thread alone. Capisce?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 9:50am On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:







I know what god(s) means.
I dont do indoctrination
I unequivocally have never worshipped deities and I unequivocally do not worship deities.

Now being a fair minded person, I am giving you another chance, to humbly go straight to the point of addressing the two below:
1. So, your point is?
2. Whats your alternative to '... worshipping Middle East gods' sic?

The absence of replying back to the above numbered up questions, will leave you interacting with yourself on this thread alone. Capisce?

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.


When you know what a “god” is and where the word comes from you can come back, don’t just be throwing words you don’t know their origin around like sheep.
Take a cue, god comes from Greek theos. Heard of THEOlogy, ignorant?.
Do you know what “theos” are?
Why should you be “worshipping” any theos in the first place, dumb question.



Again, I know it’s hard to comprehend for you, but read slowly.

Do you know what a “god” is?
You’ve been so indoctrinated, you can’t do without worshipping deities?

And even if you want to worship Middle East gods, why worship small Yahweh of the Israelite.
It was ELohim that gifted Yahweh, israEL.

Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 10:16am On Jul 06, 2022
Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 2:20pm On Jul 06, 2022
Your ignorance will only make you a indoctrinated sheep worshipping theos of different regions, and it seems Middle East theos are leading!
Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 2:21pm On Jul 06, 2022
[/quote][quote author=NNTR post=114470170]Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Remember I was on my own when you quoted me, you don’t have to be desperate to defend your Israelite god, Yahweh.
If there’s anyone that should be ignored it’s you that desperately quoted me.
Re: We Are All Human! by NNTR: 3:17pm On Jul 06, 2022
NNTR:
I know what god(s) means.

I dont do indoctrination

I unequivocally have never worshipped deities.

I unequivocally do not worship deities
and I unequivocally have no plans, now or in the future to worship deities.


Now being a fair minded person, I am giving you another chance, to humbly go straight to the point of addressing the two below:

1. So, your point is?
2. Whats your alternative to '... worshipping Middle East gods' sic?

The absence of replying back to the above numbered up questions, will leave you interacting with yourself on this thread alone. Capisce?


Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

Re: We Are All Human! by Maynman: 4:25pm On Jul 06, 2022
When you know what a “god” is and where the word comes from you can come back, don’t just be throwing words you don’t know their origin around like sheep.
Take a cue, god comes from Greek theos. Heard of THEOlogy, ignorant?.
Do you know what “theos” are?
Why should you be “worshipping” any theos in the first place, dumb question.



Again, I know it’s hard to comprehend for you, but read slowly.

Do you know what a “god” is?
You’ve been so indoctrinated, you can’t do without worshipping deities?

And even if you want to worship Middle East gods, why worship small Yahweh of the Israelite.
It was ELohim that gifted Yahweh, israEL.

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