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Can someone please tell me , of what use are the miracles above

This is so desperate as to be pathetically pitiful.

To descend to the level of an animal to justify silly so called miracles.

Jesus Christ performed real miracles , not miracles, so called that have no logic or humanitarian value to them.

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@Frosbel; You are a joke. Omo alaro rubbish you in one thread, you run away to start another thread.

here is your problem. and maybe you are too young to know when ronald reagan was the president of america, so ask any older person about the influence of nancy reagan in that administration.

reagan believed in fortune teller. those card readers. the 'gipsies' type.

when ron was shot by brinkley for ' jody foster' she became the eyes and ears of the maverick cowboy radio announcer turned president. the only oscar worthy performance of ron was the president, as the gipper not the role in the movie. i have done enough on ron.

now to nancy; if she believed future tellers, what do you think she will of your christian healers? she is a christian still and has some influence with the conservative republican ala late ron's lingering influence.

imagine the number of blind and legally blind and semi blind white americans in this usa. if the government has not requested your miracle performing eye opening blindness curing pastors to heal these handicapped in american society, your healers should also find it "christ-like' to volunteer and help usa out.

sickeningly so, the white miracle workers had to find blacks to show their powers of healing while they leave their own kind in america and europe to remain blind. This is pitiful and not christ like, if there is truly anything christ like other than the gentle and not combative side of every prophet.

Elisha's bone raised up a dead man while he remained dead. you said Jesus is alive, when you claimed he died, you said God raised him up. what you fail to notice is that nothing Jesus is capable to do by himself. Jesus said it so unless the bibles are lying or the people who copied the manuscripts about that verse were mistaking and watered down Jesus to nothingness like you and I and your so called white healer? if Jesus himself was powerless, how can his name do anything?

stop being deceitful.

the miracle of Islam is forever. Quran itself is a miracle that is consistently easy for anyone to memorize it. it remains in its original text, original language and the styles of recitation were in the styles it was revealed.

the Bible as no original text and there is none anywhere to show; men writing and giving conflicting reports and numeration is not something that we can be certain is from God.

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Sorry I am not sure I understand the above.

Coming back to the main point, it is a known fact that Muhammad was spiritually incapable of performing any miracles for the benefit of mankind.

The only miracles on youtube and elsewhere that I see are outrageous and laughable videos or articles such as the above and below.


Let me name but a few :

 
ALLAH name found in a split tomato



ALLAH name found on a split melon

This is just silly, GOD does not have time for worthless games like these.

ALLAH is simply DEAD and not able to perform any miracles.

Jesus is alive and he performed countless miracles , the blind eyes were opened, others woke up after dying, the lame walked, the sick were healed but the greatest of all was SALVATION.

God is more interested in our salvation and healing than playing funny jokes on us.

Please get real !!!

^^^^^^^^^^^ you don't have to be sorry because I was certain you would not understand a thing from it anyway. My writing is a certain sense of reality that I am trying to gear your emotion to see.

Christian white preachers perform miracles on black people in black people's land.

White people have the same problems and white preachers couldn't cure the white christians.

But he loaded himself into a plane and came to africa, leaving all the same diseases behind in Europe and America and where ever he came from. Do you see an irony in this under "Physician heal thyself"?

Why can't they heal the whites in their community first, instead of fighting to cure poor blacks people first?

Is white not right again and black stand back?



You tire me frosbel. Go see how Omo Alaro is skewing you as if you are suya. Frosbel meso jamba abeg.

It is no secret that faith blinds and the believer cannot see anything wrong with the object of his or her belief. This is the reason why while Muslims can see the errors of Christians Jews or Hindus, they are unable to see the absurdities in their own Faith,   

Muslims love Muhammad to the extent that they want to dress like him, speak the same language that he spoke, behave the way he behaved and eat the food that he ate. This is not an indication of the greatness of Muhammad but the unconditional, fanatical and blind faith of his believers. Followers of all cults eulogize and adulate their leader as a divine being. This is no indication that their leaders were really superior beings. Humans need heroes and fabricate them. Often when these heroes die they assume a mythological status much bigger than life. That is when their human nature and defects are hidden form the eyes of their adulators.

Muslims have not seen Muhammad. They rely entirely on second hand stories about their prophet. Those stories idolize him beyond human reason. Many of those Hadithes are forged, exaggerated by ruffians and are baseless. See for examples the following Hadith that says Muhammad split the moon.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 208
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The people of Mecca asked Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle. So he showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram' mountain. 



Also Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 830 ,831, 832

Or this one that claims he made water out of nothing. 

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 4, Number 170
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
I saw Allah's Apostle when the 'Asr prayer was due and the people searched for water to perform ablution but they could not find it. Later on (a pot full of) water for ablution was brought to Allah's Apostle . He put his hand in that pot and ordered the people to perform ablution from it. I saw the water springing out from underneath his fingers till all of them performed the ablution (it was one of the miracles of the Prophet).

Or multiplied the bread. Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 428

Of course when challenged by skeptics, Muhammad repeatedly denied being able to perform any miracle. He admitted that although other prophets before him were given the power of performing miracles, his only miracle is Quran.   

Sahih Bukhari Volume 9, Book 92, Number 379
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "There was no prophet among the prophets but was given miracles because of which people had security or had belief, but what I was given was the Divine Inspiration which Allah revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will be more than those of any other prophet on the Day of Resurrection."

There are many verses in Quran that reaffirm this last Hadith, proving that Muhammad never performed any miracle and found it useless. In the following verse Muhammad is acknowledging that other prophets before him came with miracles or clear signs but still people rejected them, highlighting the futility of miracles as the proof of his revelation.

Q. 03: 138
They (also) said: "Allah took our promise not to believe in an messenger unless He showed us a sacrifice consumed by Fire (From heaven)." Say: "There came to you messengers before me, with clear Signs and even with what ye ask for: why then did ye slay them, if ye speak the truth?"  if you are truthful?   

All along, the unbelievers asked Muhammad to perform a miracle so that they could believe. All they got in response was,   

Q. 17: 90
They say: "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth,

And he would reply:

Q. 17: 93
Say: "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man,- a messenger?"

People doubted Muhammad because they saw nothing extraordinary or miraculous in him.

Q. 17: 94
And naught prevented mankind from believing when the guidance came unto them save that they said: Hath Allah sent a mortal as (His) messenger? 

Q. 25: 7
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?

Q. 25: 8
"Or (Why) has not a treasure been bestowed on him, or why has he (not) a garden for enjoyment?" The wicked say: "Ye follow none other than a man bewitched."

But Muhammad kept telling them that he is just an ordinary man not an angel, meaning people should not expect miracles from him!

Q. 17: 95
Say: Had there been in the earth angels walking about as settlers, We would certainly have sent down to them from the heaven an angel as a messenger.

The common sense dictates that no one would deny and call a man who performs such mighty miracles like splitting the moon, as believed by all the Muslims a mad man or possessed. But the people who knew him actually called him by these names. 

Q. 15: 06
They say: "O thou to whom the Message is being revealed! truly thou art mad (or possessed)!.

No one would demand him miracles if he had already performed one

Q. 15: 07
Why do you not bring to us the angels if you are of the truthful ones?

But Muhammad responded

Q. 15: 08
We send not the angels down except for just cause: if they came (to the ungodly), behold! no respite would they have! 

The Quraishites kept asking for a sign or a miracle to believe and Muhammad kept saying that he is only a warner.

Q. 13: 07
“And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide.”

There are many more ayat that tell the same story. People asking miracles and him saying I am just a man, just like you, only a warner. A clear proof that Muhammad never performed any miracles is in this verse where it says that people rejected even other messengers who came with miracles and clear signs, meaning miracles are not helpful.

Q. 3: 184
Then if they reject thee, so were rejected messengers before thee, who came with Clear Signs, Books of dark prophecies, and the Book of Enlightenment.

In the above verses Muhammad is denying any supernatural power. If he could perform the miracles attributed to him in those Ahadith, what is the meaning of these verses? In the following verse he clearly rejects miracles as the proof of prophethood comparing them to witchcrafts.

Q. 2: 3
Their hearts toying as with trifles. The wrong-doers conceal their private counsels, (saying), "Is this (one) more than a man like yourselves? Will ye go to witchcraft with your eyes open?"


He was right! What is the use of miracles anyway? Miracles may be a proof for those who witness them, but mean nothing to others. Muhammad was right in emphasizing that the real miracle is his message or the Quran, because that is what really counts. Although this is a valid principle, Quran is no miracle at all. It is a book full of errors and inconsistencies.

I do not see Muhammad as a superior human being for two reasons.

a)      Many of Ahadith and verses from Quran, if right, reveal him as an angry, ruthless, unforgiving, deceitful, and impious man. Acts like looting merchant caravans, killing those who decide to have their own faith and not follow him, cursing his enemies, treating women as second class citizens and calling them deficient in intelligence, assassinating cowardly his opponents like a common gangster, and many more acts like these are not precisely spiritual characteristics that I seek in a man I would like to follow and emulate. His deeds are far from the deeds of an  "honored messenger" as he claimed to be in Q. 69:40

b)     Today's modern Muslims, especially those whose standard of ethics is colored by western/humanistic precepts of right and wrong try to distance themselves from those hadithes that depict Muhammad as a ruthless immoral and unethical gangster. They deny the validity of those hadithes and all what shows Muhammad in a negative light. However, if those hadithes and verses are forged, then the whole validity of Islam crumbles and there is no reason for anyone to believe in a mythological figure whose real life and words is not known.