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How Is יהוה The Father Of The Messiah? By The Holy Spirit by cosiocan(m): 11:56am On Aug 16, 2022 |
Romans 1:3-4 Concerning his Son Yeshua the Messiah our Saviour, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of יהוה with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: The Messiah was the son of David because the Flesh (breath of life of David) preserved from David by Elohim was given to him to live like man. The Messiah is the Son of יהוה Elohim because the Holy Spirit dwelling in Him is יהוה Elohim. The reason nobody has the SPIRIT OF יהוה is because nobody really knows how יהוה is the Father of the Messiah. The Devil has blinded them with the doctrine saying that the Holy Spirit is a third person.
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Re: How Is יהוה The Father Of The Messiah? By The Holy Spirit by Maynman: 9:07pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
Elohim simply means gods in Hebrew language. Baal is an elohim. |
Re: How Is יהוה The Father Of The Messiah? By The Holy Spirit by cosiocan(m): 10:14pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
Maynman:1 Corinthians 8:5-6 For though there be that are called Elohim, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be Elohim many, and masters many,) But to us there is but one Elohim, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Master Yeshua the Messiah, by whom are all things, and we by him. 1 Like |
Re: How Is יהוה The Father Of The Messiah? By The Holy Spirit by Maynman: 10:16pm On Aug 16, 2022 |
cosiocan: Read slowly: Elohim simply means gods in Hebrew language. Baal is an elohim. Elohim and Allah means same thing. Elohim are sons to EL.
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Re: How Is יהוה The Father Of The Messiah? By The Holy Spirit by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:53am On Aug 17, 2022 |
Carefully read the Bible book of Proverbs 8 then prayerfully pay rapt attention to verses 22-36 with thorough meditation. I'm sure you will find the answer! Proverbs 2:1-5 |
Re: How Is יהוה The Father Of The Messiah? By The Holy Spirit by Kobojunkiee: 3:01pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
cosiocan:1. What manuscript of the book of Roman contains the terms in bold abeg? The image attached is of the greek writings and there are no Hebrew words contained. Where do I access this manuscript that includes the Hebrew references you have there? ![]() 2. Where does this claim of yours that the flesh is the breath of life come from? Also, where is it written that Elohim is responsible for preserving David's flesh so Jesus could live like a man? ![]() 3. Where in scripture are the statements in bold found? ![]() 4. So, did יהוה/Jehovah state somewhere that only those who know how יהוה/Jehovah is the Father of the messiah can have the Spirit of יהוה/Jehovah in them? Where? ![]()
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Re: How Is יהוה The Father Of The Messiah? By The Holy Spirit by cosiocan(m): 10:16pm On Aug 17, 2022 |
Kobojunkiee:Your question is absolutely reasonable Acts 2:30 Therefore David being a prophet, and knowing that YHVH had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his `loins`, according to the flesh, he would raise up the Messiah to sit on his throne; That's to say that David is the actual Father of the Messiah but David was already dead long before the Messiah was born but God preserved his seed of life or breath of life to fulfill this promise. John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. The world can not receive the Holy Spirit because they don't know that the Holy Spirit is the Father himself. |
Re: How Is יהוה The Father Of The Messiah? By The Holy Spirit by Kobojunkie: 9:42pm On Aug 27, 2022 |
cosiocan:1. But your answers don't in any way connected to what is asked. ![]() 2. Yes, scripture indicates Jesus Christ as a fleshly descendant of David. However, you instead assert that Jesus Christ was born of the same breath of Life as David who should instead be in his grave awaiting the resurrection of the Jews to come when Jesus Christ returns. Are you suggesting that come time for the resurrection, David will not rise from the dead along with the others? ![]() 3. Well, if you read the passage even further, you would have realized instead that the Holy Spirit, who is in fact the Spirit of Truth, the same Spirit which lived inside of Jesus Christ, and as Jesus Christ explained in the context is subject to Him - * The Helper is meant to give you that which He receives from Jesus Christ * The Helper is to remind you of that which Jesus Christ taught to His followers. * The Helper is also to glorify Jesus Christ * The Helper is to take from that which is Jesus Christ to give to His followers * The Helper is the Spirit of Truth that will speak only that which He hears from Jesus Christ .... All this is found written in John 14 vs 26 - 26 & John 16 vs 8 - 15 Clearly, not only is the Spirit of Truth subject to Jesus Christ but He is of Jesus Christ. |
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