Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ always gets the glory when those in the Kingdom of God do as God commands. They don't need to give Him anything since it all belongs to Him anyways.

Yes, he gets all the glory and it is also our responsibility to return all glory to God too.

Kobojunkie:
Not trying to hold brief for the man but even that which you command there is not commanded of you by Jesus Christ, the one you are instead called to follow.

Did Jesus then mentioned raising holy hands as I just don't understand your point?

You should have just thrown every other part of the Bible and keep reading just the part Jesus thought.

Praxis758:




Check your dictionary

What you don't know is heresy in your dictionary

TMSMedia:


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This is why we should read the Holy Bible in its entirety, comparing spiritual things with spiritual things (1 Corinthians 2:13)... that is, Scripture with Scripture.

GOD knows all things... is it not a matter of the intent of the heart when one / creation claps its hands?!


Here are parts of Holy Scripture that associate hand clapping with praise, worship and celebration in the joy and peace of GOD

"O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph." - Psalm 47:1

"Let the floods clap their hands: let the hills be joyful together" - Psalm 98:8

"For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands." - Isaiah 55:12

Nauttyprof:
Yes, he gets all the glory and it is also our responsibility to return all glory to God too.

But Jesus Christ never gave to you that responsibility to begin with so by whose authority do you claim to have it?

You can't return that which you were never given authority for or to.

Nauttyprof:
1.bDid Jesus then mentioned raising holy hands as I just don't understand your point?

2. You should have just thrown every other part of the Bible and keep reading just the part Jesus thought.

1. What exactly are "holy hands" because that concept alone is foreign to His teachings.

2. Look, this is simple. Jesus Christ is the Covenant upon which you are called by God to live your life by, the foundation upon which your idea of who God is ought to be built. As He told you, you are called to obey His every teachings and commandments, and no other- John 14 vs 15 - 20 - in His Name. And this is what God's Will is.

If you are unable to get that foundation correct, everything you build on whatever foundation you choose instead is meaningless- all other grounds are sinking sand - Matthew 7 vs 24 - 29

Pimine:

She'll definitely come up with a stupid response. Just watch! I wonder the spirit that worketh in her - not of God, obviously.

Really? It's a "she"?

Quite a troublesome character. Always on every Christian thread trying to contest anything at all.

Pimine:

If I show you passages in the Bible that support clapping unto the Lord, you'll still reject it because your "Man of God" taught you otherwise. When will you grow up? Will you keep drinking milk forever? Ndi my pastor say

Bring it on, let's take a ride!

Kobojunkie:
Not trying to hold brief for the man but even that which you command there is not commanded of you by Jesus Christ, the one you are instead called to follow.

If ONLY what Jesus said is what we would actually do, most of what we are doing today then are wrong.
Jesus stayed for a limited time here in person, but Scriptures are given by the Holy Spirit through holy men to say further what Jesus could have said or told His followers if He were to still be physically present.

Concerning the Psalms you referred to as being not commanded by Jesus or not being in the New Testament, do you realize that Psalms was part of the whole Scriptures (Bible) given by inspirations of the Spirit? So clapping as said in that place quoted couldn't have been an error. Except Isaiah, no other Book of the Bible has prophecies for Jesus' life, death and resurrection like the Psalms. How come clapping to praise God in the Book of Psalm is irrelevant in the New Testament?
If Psalm isn't relevant in the New Testament, why does the book of James say that if anyone is merry, let him sing Psalms. Ephesians also mentions speaking to one another in Psalms.
So why is Psalms not relevant in the New Testament when it is quoted and referenced in many places?

If the Preacher wants to be "thorough" , he should have condemned dancing also. Is there any place in the New Testament that Bible says that people should dance to or before God? He ought to have condemned dancing as well.

Anyone may decide to worship God the way he feels all good including not clapping if he so wishes, but making a doctrine out of it like he's saying it in this video is all wrong in itself.

wman:
I respect this man of God. But these days, he does too much of criticism.

That was how he was criticizing Pastor Jerry Eze and NSPPD too.

He has criticized so many others.
To me, it is not a sign of maturity.
No single minister is given the whip or ministry of criticism to police the rest of the ministers.
There is correction that's done in love, and it is not for pulpit entertainment because you have audience that believes in all you throw out at them.
Becoming the Chief Whip of all the rest is like assuming you yourself are the standard they must measure up to.
He who stands should take heed.

spencekat:
It is not bad clapping or drumming in the church.

Well you don’t attend my church and I don’t attend yours .

Bluezy13:

Please which church is that ??

Church of Christ

Kobojunkie:
Why? Because your pastor told you Jesus Christ instead wants you to sing to Him from your Hymn books abi?.

The problem is majority of you don't read scripture to learn God's truth apart from all the lies your pastors and mogs fill your heads with.

Jesus Christ clearly indicated that those who praise Him do so in vain since He doesn't desire praises from men - John 5 vs 41 - 45

Well I don’t owe you a response since you already concluded on your own and quoted me without asking the appropriate questions so you can get to know why we don’t clap, dance or play drums in my church, so peace be unto you sir , and the Bible verse you made reference to , please be careful next time when you’re quoting a Bible verse , don’t let thunder strike you please
God has been specific about what kind of music He wants us to use in New Testament worship—He wants vocal music. This excludes percussion by clapping or playing drums. Here are the New Testament passages with God’s authorization for vocal music:
Ephesians 5:19.addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody to the Lord with your heart. . . .
Colossians 3:16. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

LiveWithIt:
So many ignorant christians on NL
Pastor damina is right

Psalms 47:1
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

CrestMan:


Bring it on, let's take a ride!

Psalms 47:1
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

inosend:
Which sect of islam is the true sect? Remember prophet muhammad says his umma will be in 73 sects against 72 for jews & 71 for christianity.

Islam is for the whole world. It therefore come in contact with different cultures hence the slight difference you see in Muslims.
But every Muslim has the following in common which is the five pillars of Islam and the six articles of faith.
1. GOD ALMIGHTY which we call ALLAH SWT is one and only one.
2. That MUHAMMAD SAW is HIS slave and messenger. The same with other prophets like Musa(AS), Isah (As) etc.
3. The book al Qur'an is unique word of ALLAH SWT reveal to our holy prophet for all mankind. The book is same in all respect and non revisable. The Arabic form which is the original form is same in words, spelling and chapters for all Muslims any where in the world.
4. Pray five times
5. Go to Hajj
6 give arm to the poor.
7. Fasting during the month of Ramadan.

So Islam is one and every of our compulsory way of worshipping is the same. But cannot say of other religion this way.

The true sect is the sect that believe in all of the above which includes all Muslims.

GreatCIS:
Bible interpretation must be contextual. In worship, you cannot remove the cultural essence of the people which in no way opposes holiness. This was one of the missionary errors committed by the Whites and caused more harm than good. Now we are adding to the confusion. Not every aspect of life including worship is spelt out in the Bible. Let no one box God. He's changeless, we are changing.

You're quite analytic. It's beautiful!

While it's great to be contextual,we must also bear in mind that the practices of our faith are spelt out in scriptures. The gaps in culture and time should not erode the precise cultures and practices of the faith.

For instance, the physical assembling together of the saints cannot be replaced by online communications of modern times.

Olojuobinrin:
1. Well I don’t owe you a response since you already concluded on your own and quoted me without asking the appropriate questions so you can get to know why we don’t clap, dance or play drums in my church, so peace be unto you sir ,

2. and the Bible verse you made reference to , please be careful next time when you’re quoting a Bible verse , don’t let thunder strike you please

3. God has been specific about what kind of music He wants us to use in New Testament worship—He wants vocal music. This excludes percussion by clapping or playing drums. Here are the New Testament passages with God’s authorization for vocal music:
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1. Keep your peace.... I have no need of it.

2. Stop being afraid of what Jesus Christ told you to do? He is the one you claim is your saviour and He called you to follow and obey Him. So, why do you hesitate when you read what He said to you over 2000 years ago?

3. God sent you Jesus Christ and He told you to obey Jesus Christ. And Jesus Christ never told you to clap hands or play the drums to Him, not even once. He told you that those who do as He commands are those who are His friends, so if you don't even respect what He says to you, and you don't obey Him, ask yourself.. who is it that you really follow?

alizma:

We are aware of the controversy in your circle, we know that you guys fight over the length of your trousers, we also know that searching for moon is another controversy, in fact we know that some of you call the other fake, abi na life, ok how many Yoruba Muslim can lead prayer in the North? Better face your side make we handle our own.

Islam is for the whole world. It therefore come in contact with different cultures hence the slight difference you see in Muslims.
But every Muslim has the following in common which is the five pillars of Islam and the six articles of faith.
1. GOD ALMIGHTY which we call ALLAH SWT is one and only one.
2. That MUHAMMAD SAW is HIS slave and messenger. The same with other prophets like Musa(AS), Isah (As) etc.
3. The book al Qur'an is unique word of ALLAH SWT reveal to our holy prophet for all mankind. The book is same in all respect and non revisable. The Arabic form which is the original form is same in words, spelling and chapters for all Muslims any where in the world.
4. Pray five times
5. Go to Hajj
6 give arm to the poor.
7. Fasting during the month of Ramadan.

So Islam is one and every of our compulsory way of worshipping is the same. But cannot say of other religion this way.

The true sect is the sect that believe in all of the above which includes all Muslims.

I understand Pastor Damina point on this. There is no where in the New Testament we are asked to clap hands to praise God. But it is in the Old Testament.

Well, it's been a culture especially during praises to clap when praising God. I believe the clapping is adding rhythm to the praise. It also became necessary especially when there are no instruments years back.

But you can really dance and praise God without clapping.

But during worship, hands are lifted in adoration to God.

If the clapping helps you dance better and praise him better, it should not be totally condemned. But don't see it as though you are clapping to Jesus because he is not performing for you.

mignone:

Psalms 47:1
O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.

Lol
I just realized having argument over this matter with you will not benefit either of us. So, I kindly advice you go ahead and do your clapping and let me do my Lifting up of hands as stated in the new testament epistles.

#peace

GreatrAnalyst:
1. If ONLY what Jesus said is what we would actually do, most of what we are doing today then are wrong.
2. Jesus stayed for a limited time here in person, but Scriptures are given by the Holy Spirit through holy men to say further what Jesus could have said or told His followers if He were to still be physically present.

3. Concerning the Psalms you referred to as being not commanded by Jesus or not being in the New Testament, do you realize that Psalms was part of the whole Scriptures (Bible) given by inspirations of the Spirit? So clapping as said in that place quoted couldn't have been an error. Except Isaiah, no other Book of the Bible has prophecies for Jesus' life, death and resurrection like the Psalms. How come clapping to praise God in the Book of Psalm is irrelevant in the New Testament?

4. If Psalm isn't relevant in the New Testament, why does the book of James say that if anyone is merry, let him sing Psalms. Ephesians also mentions speaking to one another in Psalms. So why is Psalms not relevant in the New Testament when it is quoted and referenced in many places?

5. If the Preacher wants to be "thorough" , he should have condemned dancing also. Is there any place in the New Testament that Bible says that people should dance to or before God? He ought to have condemned dancing as well.

6. Anyone may decide to worship God the way he feels all good including not clapping if he so wishes, but making a doctrine out of it like he's saying it in this video is all wrong in itself.

1. ok.

2. I am afraid that lie was concocted by your pastors and mogs in order to fill your heads with hogwash that has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus Christ.

First, Jesus Christ never promised to send you any "holy" men or women to begin with. Instead, He sent ALL His followers to teach the same Law, God's New Covenant, the Gospel, to anyone else who will believe in Him, so of what use are these "holy" men and woman you cling to pretending you do so in His name?

Second, Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant and Law to you, and this Law, as Jesus Christ informed you was ratified on the cross when His blood was shed and He declared "It is finished!" - Matthew 26 vs 28 - 30. Now, the one you call the Holy Spirit who is the Spirit of Truth, the one who is meant to only give you that which belongs to Jesus Christ is in fact the Spirit that lived inside of Jesus Christ - the way, the Truth and the Life - while He was here on earth. So, how can a Spirit that belongs to Jesus Christ be in conflict with Jesus Christ?

3. The book of the Law of Moses is also a part of scripture, however, none of those laws was given to those who are of God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God. And as Jesus Christ made clear to His followers, you cannot serve two masters in the Kingdom of God nor are you to store Old Wine and New Wine together.

4. Did you bother to read what Jesus Christ said in John 5 vs 41 - 45 at all? Is it that you believe that that which is written by James in his letter and that supposedly stated by paul somehow counters that decreed by Jesus Christ in that passage?

5. In His Old Covenant, YHWH does command that the people of Israel praise Him. I mean it is a requirement in that Law. However, in the New Covenant, Jesus Christ outright declares that He does not desire or have the need for your praises, essentially declaring meaningless your praise rituals. So, I think a more important question to ask is what value these rituals add, if any, to your relationship with God, and the answer is absolutely none.

6. That is a delusion, my friend! God is the one who stipulates how He is to be honoured/worshipped. That is what His Law is there to do, define for us what it is we must do to honor/worship God, to please Him. And as clearly indicated by Jesus Christ, He does not need you or any other human being to praise Him. So, why do that which clearly indicated is not worship of Him?

CrestMan:


Bring it on, let's take a ride!

I no get your time brotha. I'll just tell you for free that "your daddy" is wrong.

damosky12:


Really? It's a "she"?

Quite a troublesome character. Always on every Christian thread trying to contest anything at all.

Bro, you can call her an "it" sef cos human beings no suppose dey troublesome like that. And she go dey form Christian wey sabi God pass.

Hehehe...when kuli-kuli and grahnut don chop space for inside guguru leather and for inside our mouth kolanut go come de form relevance for outside the leather as to why na him suppose dey inside de leather.

Psalms 47:1 "O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph".

Heresies don enter church if una no know.

Olojuobinrin:
That’s why we don’t clap or play drums in my church, only sing from the hymm book .

Church of Christ?

Olojuobinrin:
That’s why we don’t clap or play drums in my church, only sing from the hymm book .

Church of Christ?


Romans 16:16

Nigerian pastors will soon write out their own Bible

mamawa123:
Nigerian pastors will soon write out their own Bible

They already wrote one and Nigerians have been following it enmasse. That is why the reality that is Christianity in Nigeria and among many others looks nothing like what is written in scripture that is almost 2000 years old.

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Say some controversial stuffs.

Things that will make your followers seems unlearned.

Proof it with grammars backed with cutting pieces from the original contents.

That's how to stay relevant in "the business"