China would be so easy to defeat, just drop bombs on all their dams, flood will drown the whole country.

Pls stop all these arguments and go study how China fought the Americans during the korean war of early fifties. Even then, China a third world country like nigeria. In the war, they employed human waves to overwhelm american technology. They lost a million soldiers while the americans lost like 50,000. Do u know the result of the war? No victor no vanquished. But wit the state of their technology, the chinese can kill one american for every four chinese they kill. If the chinese decide sacrifise 20million lives, can the americans do away wit 5million people? NO. In war, the first thing a good commander does is to neutralise the enemy advantage in equipment, training, motivatiön, technology and strength.o neutralise the enemy advantage in equipment, training, motivatiön, technology and strength.tage in equipment, training, motivatiön, technology and strength.o neutralise the enemy advantage in equipment, training, motivatiön, technology and strength.

RUSSIA: Fought the poorly armed afghans mujahadeen rebelsfrom 1979-1988 and ran with their tail in between their legs with their heads down in shame. The U.S, after ten years are still in this war against the taliban from 2001-2011, a better armed insurgent, thanks to iran, pakistan and the rest. Still, they (U.S) is bent on instilling democracy in that country.

CHINA!!!!: The only indigenous product from china is CHINCO PHONE A.K.A Techno . You should see the way the chinese are at loggerheads with our igbo brothers at the computer village. They look like refugees, only happy to be out of their country. The citizens dont look wealthy to me, rather they pass for a people of oppourtunist. These idiots even take up the jobs of painters, carpenters, bricklaayers and all what not. You should see them all over sites across the ajah/v.i axis. These people dont look a bit like they are 4rm a prosperous nation.

@mekaboy, see ur mind You go like awooof

prefers555:

RUSSIA: Fought the poorly armed afghans mujahadeen rebelsfrom 1979-1988 and ran with their tail in between their legs with their heads down in shame. The U.S, after ten years are still in this war against the taliban from 2001-2011, a better armed insurgent, thanks to iran, pakistan and the rest. Still, they (U.S) is bent on instilling democracy in that country.

The US sponsored the mujahadeen through the CIA.

And that was the beginning of the Taliban.

I think it's time to shine a little light on this situation. First of all, China cannot afford to go to war against a country in which all of it's foreign currency reserve is located, the U.S controls over 75% of the world's foreign reserve and the more the dollar weakens the less the US must pay back to it's debtors. Also when we compare the US debt to European debt or Asian debt, you'll quickly realize that the US debt is more preferred than the other debts because the US has a liquid market which makes it easy for foreign transactions. Let's think for a minute, why is the whole world worried about the US economy? It's simple, most counties don't have an alternative than to invest in the US treasury and once it collapses it also drags along all it's investors, so the US crisis would also mean a global crisis, the US cannot afford to go to war but more importantly the whole world cannot allow the US to crumble.

It is a pity that u ppl are making the same mistakes napoleon and hitler made on a much weaker country. When napoleon invaded russia wit his 200,000-strong Grand Army, russia was much weaker than the presentday china. Napoleon quickly captured moscow. The russians were so routed that they abandoned and burnt moscow. After he got there wit his army, it was during winter. Since all the buildings were raised down, his soldiers couldnt get accomodated. With no property or farm to get food, napoleon was forced to withdraw just after 2wks in moscow. Howeva, as he was withdrawing, the russians which had ran away b4 all laid a series of ambushes for his. He managed to enter france wit less than 19,000 soldiers. Hitler attacked the russians too because militarily then russians were in mess. He threw a highly experienced and the best equiped 6millions soldiers at moscow. He got so close to moscow that his frontline troops were usin binoculars to identify some moscow building. What then happened? Stalin then started throwing poorly armed soldiers wit rifles against german panzer tanks literally massacring them. And also depleting the german ammunitions in the process. The method eventually drove back the germans and consequently led to their defeat. Russia suffered 40% of WW2 casualties. Up till today, russia has nt recover frm such wholesome massacres of its men dat the ratio of men to women is stil today less than its pre WW2 figure. That is the result of human waves attack any communist govt like china can use. No democratic govt USA dare use human waves successfully because their soldiers wil refuse such orders just some french soldiers did in WW2 to attack again an impregnable german line. enter france wit less than 19,000 soldiers. Hitler attacked the russians too because militarily then russians were in mess. He threw a highly experienced and the best equiped 6millions soldiers at moscow. He got so close to moscow that his frontline troops were usin binoculars to identify some moscow building. What then happened? Stalin then started throwing poorly armed soldiers wit rifles against german panzer tanks literally massacring them. And also depleting the german ammunitions in the process. The method eventually drove back the germans and consequently led to their defeat. Russia suffered 40% of WW2 casualties. Up till today, russia has nt recover frm such wholesome massacres of its men dat the ratio of men to women is stil today less than its pre WW2 figure. That is the result of human waves attack any communist govt like china can use. No democratic govt USA dare use human waves successfully because their soldiers wil refuse such orders just some french soldiers did in WW2 to attack again an impregnable german line.

It is a pity that u ppl are making the same mistakes napoleon and hitler made on a much weaker country. When napoleon invaded russia wit his 200,000-strong Grand Army, russia was much weaker than the presentday china. Napoleon quickly captured moscow. The russians were so routed that they abandoned and burnt moscow. After he got there wit his army, it was during winter. Since all the buildings were raised down, his soldiers couldnt get accomodated. With no property or farm to get food, napoleon was forced to withdraw just after 2wks in moscow. Howeva, as he was withdrawing, the russians which had ran away b4 all laid a series of ambushes for his. He managed to enter france wit less than 19,000 soldiers. Hitler attacked the russians too because militarily then russians were in mess. He threw a highly experienced and the best equiped 6millions soldiers at moscow. He got so close to moscow that his frontline troops were usin binoculars to identify some moscow building. What then happened? Stalin then started throwing poorly armed soldiers wit rifles against german panzer tanks literally massacring them. And also depleting the german ammunitions in the process. The method eventually drove back the germans and consequently led to their defeat. Russia suffered 40% of WW2 casualties. Up till today, russia has nt recover frm such wholesome massacres of its men dat the ratio of men to women is stil today less than its pre WW2 figure. That is the result of human waves attack any communist govt like china can use. No democratic govt USA dare use human waves successfully because their soldiers wil refuse such orders just some french soldiers did in WW2 to attack again an impregnable german line. enter france wit less than 19,000 soldiers. Hitler attacked the russians too because militarily then russians were in mess. He threw a highly experienced and the best equiped 6millions soldiers at moscow. He got so close to moscow that his frontline troops were usin binoculars to identify some moscow building. What then happened? Stalin then started throwing poorly armed soldiers wit rifles against german panzer tanks literally massacring them. And also depleting the german ammunitions in the process. The method eventually drove back the germans and consequently led to their defeat. Russia suffered 40% of WW2 casualties. Up till today, russia has nt recover frm such wholesome massacres of its men dat the ratio of men to women is stil today less than its pre WW2 figure. That is the result of human waves attack any communist govt like china can use. No democratic govt USA dare use human waves successfully because their soldiers wil refuse such orders just some french soldiers did in WW2 to attack again an impregnable german line.

War `101:
This is not an invasion war, why dont you get a clue ? It is a bullying war to cripple your enemy.
America is not interested in entering China, but, bully, cripple and show who the heavy weight champion is.
In the case of Chinese flooding American army with wave of millions of army.
Have you seen Korea war on the sea. America and Korea never fight a physical war but everything was in the air.

America wont be stupid as you think to try and invade China. Infact that is impossible. They dont have the man power. Did America invaded Japan? no, but crippled it till today.
Be practical not calculate

All of this $hit is paving way for WWIII, trust me ALBERT EISTEIN word will soon come to pass, am just sorry dat it's d innocents dat will suffer a great deal 4rm this WORLD POWER thingy madness.

SummerSlam/Unforgiven/NoMercy. Let d fight begin. Buh na whu go put down im belt?

islamrules:

War `101:
This is not an invasion war, why dont you get a clue ? It is a bullying war to cripple your enemy.
America is not interested in entering China, but, bully, cripple and show who the heavy weight champion is.
In the case of Chinese flooding American army with wave of millions of army.
Have you seen Korea war on the sea. America and Korea never fight a physical war but everything was in the air.

America wont be silly as you think to try and invade China. Infact that is impossible. They dont have the man power. Did America invaded Japan? no, but crippled it till today.
Be practical not calculate

as if China does not also have war planes some even better than the Americans in prowess. Mind you if you think they would use nuke like they use in japan i'm sure they won't dare it because the moment they declare war with China they've declared war with other communist nation remember not only US has nuke.

better than the Americans in prowess

Where ? no country has ever built it. Even EUROSuper is not near.

Are you from the wood ?

Ask any Chinese

better than the Americans in prowess

This man must be smoking bush, it seems he doesn't know that America is the epitome of defense, they spend over 30% of their budget on defense mechanism, when it comes to technological war, the USA is far advanced than most people can imagine but when it comes to economic war or human war then I think there's room for negotiation, cos the US population and it's economy cannot withstand such a war again!

all this na shakara. US attack China? na beans. china even hosted kim jon il recently and nothing happened. if to say na naija now, america go dey hala. eni a le mu la n le di mo.

china even hosted kim jon il recently and nothing happened

So u mean US should be bombing China because of that ?
America has brain, cuz they are human. Is that enough to cause a war ?

islamrules:

Forget about sentiment.

Economically:
China is poor, having 1trillion bonds in US economy doesnt mean. Go to china and see poverty at its peak and compare with US.

I really do not understand what u mean by China is economically poor,i wonder what indices u used to arrive at that conclusion.That u have a lot of poor people in China does not make them economically poor,US has a growing population of people living within the poverty belt,it has not been able to create jobs commensurate to the growth of unemployment in the system.Jobs are lost everyday in the U.S,right now the US is one of the highest debtors in the world and to service these debts they have to borrow more and more money and b'cos they service their debts,creditors are always eager to lend them that was why the threat of a possible default ever in the history of America would have been devastating to it's credit intensive economy.It may interest u to know further that China is one of the highest lenders to the US govt. the just approve credit extension by both houses will be sourced from China,you bet! Also among the first 10 banks in the worlds today China has three in the 1st,2nd and 4th positions so how do you say the are economically poor The Chinese economy is so vibrant that they can afford to put your country Nigeria among the countries in Africa that will benefit from their 2011 grants to developing countries.The first Asian products to be granted full access into the American economy is that of China.There is no country in the world rite now without a Chinese product in their market, and u say their economy is poor.Please do not just speak b'cos u pay little or nothing to express yourself on any public forum but only b'cos you can contribute truthfully and meaningfully.

bossinie:

I really do not understand what u mean by China is economically poor,i wonder what indices u used to arrive at that conclusion.That u have a lot of poor people in China does not make them economically poor,US has a growing population of people living within the poverty belt,it has not been able to create jobs commensurate to the growth of unemployment in the system.Jobs are lost everyday in the U.S,right now the US is one of the highest debtors in the world and to service these debts they have to borrow more and more money and b'cos they service their debts,creditors are always eager to lend them that was why the threat of a possible default ever in the history of America would have been devastating to it's credit intensive economy.It may interest u to know further that China is one of the highest lenders to the US govt. the just approve credit extension by both houses will be sourced from China,you bet! Also among the first 10 banks in the worlds today China has three in the 1st,2nd and 4th positions so how do you say the are economically poor The Chinese economy is so vibrant that they can afford to put your country Nigeria among the countries in Africa that will benefit from their 2011 grants to developing countries.The first Asian products to be granted full access into the American economy is that of China.There is no country in the world rite now without a Chinese product in their market, and u say their economy is poor.Please do not just speak b'cos u pay little or nothing to express yourself on any public forum but only b'cos you can contribute truthfully and meaningfully.

You dey mind some people? i have decided to just watch, rather than continue with them.

US will not fight China for the same reason it cant fight Russia- mutually assured destruction (MAD) doctrine. China packs a powerful nuclear detterent force, and has a nuclear triad principle just like the US(land based, submarines and aircraft carriers). A US conventional strike(to which china will react nuclearly to anyway) will cause unacceptable losses of american lives and equipments. China can strike carrier groups before they get within striking range and with fighters like J-7s, J-10 and shenyangs plus the J-20 stealth bomber in development, war with china is no longer a good alternative.
But will china intercede should america invade Iran? I think not cause its a lose-lose situation. So the proxy wars or wars of attrition is the best option now.

islamrules:

Where ? no country has ever built it. Even EUROSuper is not near.

Are you from the wood ?

Ask any Chinese

actually the only incomparable planes in d US inventory is d F-22 Raptor. The proposed JSF F-35, the F-15 Eagle, F-16 and F-18 are now threathened by Russia's sukhoi PAK T-50, MiG 35 and MiG 29s. And if you are thinking of America's B-52, B-2, And FB-111, remember Russian Tu-160 Blackjack and Tu-95 Bear bombers. And there are now antistealth technologies so the Raptor can be intercepted too. Nobody has a monopoly of the warplanes. too. Nobody has a monopoly of the warplanes.

I really do not understand what u mean by China is economically poor,i wonder what indices u used to arrive at that conclusion.That u have a lot of poor people in China does not make them economically poor,US has a growing population of people living within the poverty belt,it has not been able to create jobs commensurate to the growth of unemployment in the system.Jobs are lost everyday in the U.S,right now the US is one of the highest debtors in the world and to service these debts they have to borrow more and more money and b'cos they service their debts,creditors are always eager to lend them that was why the threat of a possible default ever in the history of America would have been devastating to it's credit intensive economy.It may interest u to know further that China is one of the highest lenders to the US govt. the just approve credit extension by both houses will be sourced from China,you bet! Also among the first 10 banks in the worlds today China has three in the 1st,2nd and 4th positions so how do you say the are economically poor The Chinese economy is so vibrant that they can afford to put your country Nigeria among the countries in Africa that will benefit from their 2011 grants to developing countries.The first Asian products to be granted full access into the American economy is that of China.There is no country in the world rite now without a Chinese product in their market, and u say their economy is poor.Please do not just speak b'cos u pay little or nothing to express yourself on any public forum but only b'cos you can contribute truthfully and meaningfully.  

Even though you have some reliable facts in your statement, you've obviously made an error, the US poverty belt is the china's middle class, which means compared to the US, china's citizens are actually very poor, also amongst the biggest economies in the world the US debt is the most preferred, do you know why? Because compared to European or Asian countries they have a stable history and the ability to pay back with deserved interest, the US credit rating fell to AA+ but china's rating is BB- which means they actually have a lower rating than the US but you're right about their economy though, it's growing at an alarming rate and their investment in the US cannot be under estimated, so it's in both countries interest to  desist from war both economically and physically.

actually the only incomparable planes in d US inventory is d F-22 Raptor. The proposed JSF F-35, the F-15 Eagle, F-16 and F-18 are now threathened by Russia's sukhoi PAK T-50, MiG 35 and MiG 29s. And if you are thinking of America's B-52, B-2, And FB-111, remember Russian Tu-160 Blackjack and Tu-95 Bear bombers. And there are now antistealth technologies so the Raptor can be intercepted too. Nobody has a monopoly of the warplanes. too. Nobody has a monopoly of the warplanes.

To counter your claim, do some major research on drone planes, the US technology on War crafts is so advanced that it would take the combination of Japan, Russia and China to counter it's effectiveness, if not for humanitarian efforts, the US would be the greatest dictators on this planet. This is not the only thing to consider, it's one thing to build offense and another thing to develop defense, the US for the past 10 years have been working on a doomsday alternative and although details are sketchy right now, it's proposed to be able to cripple a country's gravitational components by more than 60% which makes missile launches and attack mechanism impossible to operate, when the US spends 30% of it's budget on defense, you can be assured it's working on something big!

abbey621:


Even though you have some reliable facts in your statement, you've obviously made an error, the US poverty belt is the china's middle class, which means compared to the US, china's citizens are actually very poor, also amongst the biggest economies in the world the US debt is the most preferred, do you know why? Because compared to European or Asian countries they have a stable history and the ability to pay back with deserved interest, the US credit rating fell to AA+ but china's rating is BB- which means they actually have a lower rating than the US but you're right about their economy though, it's growing at an alarming rate and their investment in the US cannot be under estimated, so it's in both countries interest to  desist from war both economically and physically.

But does this make sense to you? someone with AA+ PLUS is broke and goes about borrowing money from someone with BB-?

I mean how can they say China is a developing nation, yet the developed nations can't feed without borrowing from them?

abbey621:


To counter your claim, do some major research on drone planes, the US technology on War crafts is so advanced that it would take the combination of Japan, Russia and China to counter it's effectiveness, if not for humanitarian efforts, the US would be the greatest dictators on this planet. This is not the only thing to consider, it's one thing to build offense and another thing to develop defense, the US for the past 10 years have been working on a doomsday alternative and although details are sketchy right now, it's proposed to be able to cripple a country's gravitational components by more than 60% which makes missile launches and attack mechanism impossible to operate, when the US spends 30% of it's budget on defense, you can be assured it's working on something big!

It seems you have forgotten that some of the warheads in America aren't actually theirs, NATO and its members contribute money to build some of these war equipments but they are stored and kept in the US being the chief military home for NATO. please when it comes to war, countries look for who serves their best interest and your friend today are likely to become your enemy tomorrow, ASK THE GERMANS.

But does this make sense to you? someone with AA+ PLUS is broke and goes about borrowing money from someone with BB-?

I mean how can they say China is a developing nation, yet the developed nations can't feed without borrowing from them?

Like I said b4 a credit rating is a past indication of how well a country is able to pay off its debts, china's history of paying off its debt is weaker than the US, that's why most countries would borrow the US money without even thinking, don't even talk about feeding, have you been to China? 80% of the population cannot feed themselves 3 square meals, Americans can feed themselves but they are so used to luxury and over pampering by the government that any little modification is seen as hardship, America's poverty line is someone that makes below 20,000 dollars a year, that is less than 3.2 million naira a year, can you see that Americans are not poor they are just spoiled brats!

Who among u know that most military strategists and observers in the USA have started to publicly admit that China will replace USA as the world's sole superpower within the next 15yrs?

islamrules:

So u mean US should be bombing China because of that ?
America has brain, cuz they are human. Is that enough to cause a war ?

nah mehn. i didn't say America should bomb China. all i'm saying is that if it were Naija, we for don hear am. remember Mutalab who was a UK-grown terrorist. just because the guy had origins in naija, see the shakara wey dem do us. even till now, dem still dey shakara us for airport just becos of mutalab.

US is till economic giant of the world.out 20 richest people,8 are us citizens and reside in U.S.There is no chinese and arab.one russian,one germans.the remaining 8 people are citizens of NATO nations or US allies.e.g canada,hong kong,india,mexico,sweden.

The Us wouldnt do that.Its not appropriate.

abbey621:

Like I said b4 a credit rating is a past indication of how well a country is able to pay off its debts, china's history of paying off its debt is weaker than the US, that's why most countries would borrow the US money without even thinking, don't even talk about feeding, have you been to China? 80% of the population cannot feed themselves 3 square meals, Americans can feed themselves but they are so used to luxury and over pampering by the government that any little modification is seen as hardship, America's poverty line is someone that makes below 20,000 dollars a year, that is less than 3.2 million naira a year, can you see that Americans are not poor they are just spoiled brats!

What you should ask is, was China a heavy borrower in the first place?

My people, I am of the candid opinion that the era of a large scale war is gone just as the likely of a nuclear war. Hence all sensible advanced nations are spendin fortunes to develop both their economies and the welfare of their citizens except, unfortunately, USA. Early this year, hillary clinton, while commentin on the unbearable US debt, she said there was a direct link btw america's 13trillion dollar debt and their international military influence. Wat it meant was that they so much prefer to see the country collapse than to lose the war in afghanistan. Wat else can better discribe a scenario where a country wit 5% of world of population be spending abt 60% of world defence spending. All these to fight less than 10,000-strong rifle-wielding talibans. And u know wat? The huge waste of 700billions every year defence spending is real tellin on most ordinary americans. How? On several studies conducted on developed countries to determine how best the citizens are faring. America, quite painfully, came almost last on indices such as education, housing, child welfare, employment opportunities, even on security. The top positions are taken by countries who spend least on defence. I love USA but if she doesnt do somethin radical abt her defense spending and channel the savings on her citizens, i wont be surprised if by tomorrow china establishes ICBM sites in canada, mexico, brasil and cuba without even spending 1billion dollars as bribe to their leaders. A word is enough for the wise.

You want to know how the US maintains superiority? Take a look at what DARPA is doing and why it was created.

"The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) was established in 1958 to prevent strategic surprise from negatively impacting U.S. national security and create strategic surprise for U.S. adversaries by maintaining the technological superiority of the U.S. military" They do research in biology, medicine, computer science, chemistry, physics, engineering, mathematics, material sciences, social sciences, neurosciences and more.


Today, DARPA is testing a 13,000 mph (20,921 km/h) plane, Falcon Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2, that can reach anywhere in the world within 1 hour.

Avg Commercial flight speed - 500 mph