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Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by Hanibbal(m): 11:14am On Sep 03, 2022 |
Russian President Vladimir Putin is to miss the funeral of the last Soviet leader, Mikhail Gorbachev, denying the man who failed to prevent the collapse of the Soviet empire the full state honours granted to Boris Yeltsin. Gorbachev, idolised in the West for allowing eastern Europe to escape Soviet communist control but unloved at home for the chaos that his "perestroika" reforms unleashed, will be buried on Saturday after a public ceremony in Moscow's Hall of Columns. The grand hall, within sight of the Kremlin, hosted the funerals of Soviet leaders Vladimir Lenin, Josef Stalin and Leonid Brezhnev. Gorbachev will be given a military guard of honour - but his funeral will not be a state one. State television on Thursday showed Putin solemnly placing red roses beside Gorbachev's coffin - left open as is traditional in Russia - in Moscow's Central Clinical Hospital, where he died on Tuesday aged 91. Putin made a sign of the cross in Russian Orthodox fashion before briefly touching the edge of the coffin. "Unfortunately, the president's work schedule will not allow him to do this on Sept. 3, so he decided to do it today," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters. He said Gorbachev's ceremony would have "elements" of a state funeral, and that the state was helping to organise it. Nevertheless, it will be a marked contrast to the funeral of Yeltsin, who was instrumental in sidelining Gorbachev as the Soviet Union fell apart and hand-picked Putin, a career KGB intelligence officer, as the man most suited to succeed him. When Yeltsin died in 2007, Putin declared a national day of mourning and, alongside world leaders, attended a grand state funeral in Moscow's Cathedral of Christ the Saviour. Russia's intervention in Ukraine appears aimed at reversing at least in part the collapse of the Soviet Union that Gorbachev failed to prevent in 1991. Gorbachev's decision to let the countries of the post-war Soviet communist bloc go their own way, and East and West Germany to reunify, helped to trigger nationalist movements within the 15 Soviet republics that he was powerless to quell. Five years after taking power in 2000, Putin called the breakup of the Soviet Union "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century". It took Putin more than 15 hours after Gorbachev's death to publish a restrained message of condolence that said Gorbachev had had a "huge impact on the course of world history" and "deeply understood that reforms were necessary" to tackle the problems of the Soviet Union in the 1980s. Gorbachev's foundation said the funeral would begin at 12 noon (0900 GMT), not 10 a.m. (0700 GMT) as previously announced. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-will-not-attend-gorbachev-funeral-due-scheduling-constraints-kremlin-2022-09-01/
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Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by God1000(m): 11:23am On Sep 03, 2022 |
Putin doesn't like Gorbachev, to him, Gorbachev was a western puppet 8 Likes |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by sofeo(m): 11:25am On Sep 03, 2022 |
He's obviously illogical and unreasonable enough. If he's, the Ukraine War would have even been avoided, while Ukraine still doesn't join NATO and EU. Very illogical. 2 Likes |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by dermmy(m): 11:37am On Sep 03, 2022 |
God1000: To be honest Gorbachev does not deserve a state burial. He allowed the USSR to collapse willingly which was a win for their enemy the Western bloc led by the U.S. He thought he was championing world peace not knowing that the west is never to be trusted. Look at how the west has treated Russia with contempt since the collapse of USSR. They stopped giving Russia the respect it deserves after the collapse thank God Russia still has nuclear weapons if not that country would have been invaded and disintegrated by now cause that's the plan America and its NATO thugs have for Russia. Even Gorbachev later regretted his actions if you have watched some of the interviews he granted since the beginning of this millenium most of them have been about regrets of his Perestroika and Glasnosts policies and allowing the USSR to collapse. The nobel peace prize he got in return does not worth what Russia is experiencing at the hand of the west today. Gorbachev only served the interest of America and its western allies by allowing the USSR to collapse and Russia has paid serverly for his foolishness. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by oz4real83(m): 12:08pm On Sep 03, 2022 |
Every leader has his opinion. Maybe one day when Putin also dies, a Russian president who never sided with the Russian-Ukrainian war will also be in power and will do exactly the same thing that Putin is doing now during Gobakhev's burial, it is a continuous cycle ![]() |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by seunny4lif(m): 4:49pm On Sep 03, 2022 |
Russians not Putin Gorbachev destroyed USSR which destroyed Russia as Yeltsin became Russia president and Yeltsin completed destroyed Russia to the states that USA was sending foods to Russia. Russia economy was dump Yeltsin was loved by the west as he was a drunken, making mocking of the office of Russia president. He sold all the resources to UK, USA and France companies. If Putin tried to give Gorbachev a state burial, it will cost Putin massive bash from both anti Putin and pro Putin Russians. 5 Likes |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 12:00am On Sep 04, 2022 |
dermmy:USSR was established through conquest and coercion. Putin wants to reestablish it through another conquest and coersion. That is the reason for Ukraine war. 1 Like |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by mysticwarrior(m): 12:37am On Sep 04, 2022 |
joyandfaith:wrong, the USSR was came into existence through treaty. 3 Likes |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 12:48am On Sep 04, 2022 |
mysticwarrior:Proof? Ukraine fought against Russia for about 4 years. Ukraine lost in 1922 and ussr was formed. |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by panafrican(m): 2:44am On Sep 04, 2022 |
Gorbatchev should have allowed economical reform in the Soviet Union , let Germany re-unify and crack down on micro-nationalism. |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by seunny4lif(m): 10:36am On Sep 04, 2022 |
joyandfaith:When Ukraine along side Russia were the founding leaders of USSR. Lenin promised to give many of now Ukraine land to Ukraine if they joined USSR. Most of current Ukraine land belong to Poland, Hungary and Russia. 2 Likes |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by BentizilL: 11:08am On Sep 04, 2022 |
joyandfaith:US, UK was established through conquest and coercion... ![]() Those two countries set the path for USSR emergence just as Kosovo set the path for Donbass... ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by ocelot2006(m): 5:53pm On Sep 04, 2022 |
joyandfaith: Wrong. Putin is not interested in reestablishing the USSR. NATO's eastward expansion is the sole cause of this damn conflict. |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by mysticwarrior(m): 10:31pm On Sep 04, 2022 |
joyandfaith:was Ukraine forced to be a part of the USSR? |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by mysticwarrior(m): 10:56pm On Sep 04, 2022 |
dermmy:Gorbachev action of allowing the USSR to collasped was a dent to bipolar balance of power. The USSR and the Warsaw pact was a powerful force which put fear on the heart of their rival. Following the disintegration of the soviet union there was almost a unipolar power for decades until the Russians bounced back and keep the US and NATO in check. The Russian presence in the Syrian war sent a strong message to west after their military demonstrated dominance in air superiority by controlling the Syrian sky. Even after multiple sanctions were placed on Russia due to the war in Ukraine, it only made the Russians to be stronger, vicious and more deadly in Ukraine, Gorbachev made a mistake but the Russian federation which ceeded from the USSR is very formidable. 2 Likes |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 4:52am On Sep 05, 2022 |
mysticwarrior: Yes. They lost. Read about Russian revolution and civil war. 1 Like |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 6:22am On Sep 05, 2022 |
ocelot2006: Putin has suxcessful brought nato weapons to his border. Sweden and Finland are on their way to NATO. It does not have to be ussr. Russia empire underwent metamorphosis to ussr. Imperialism comes in many forms. Also note that Russia is also expanding her influence into west sphere of influence in Asia, Africa and South America. China is doing the same things. Ukraine war is about land acquisition, sphere of influence and world domination. |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 6:24am On Sep 05, 2022 |
seunny4lif: Have u seen this map. Kiev is older than Moscow. You cannot give me what you forcefully collected from me. Meanwhile, Ukraine lost war of independence in 1920/1921 and forced to join ussr.
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Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by ocelot2006(m): 9:35am On Sep 05, 2022 |
joyandfaith: Sweden and Finland have always been NATO leaning. Even Putin wasn't moved by their decision to make the relationship with the alliance formal as it was no surprise at all. Even at that, the Swedes have said they won't allow NATO station missiles on their territory. So it's all good. 1 Like |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by ken6488(m): 9:53am On Sep 05, 2022 |
joyandfaith:rubbish be hearing this for long if you claim was right he would have raze down Kiev That just a fairy tale |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by ken6488(m): 9:53am On Sep 05, 2022 |
joyandfaith:do you know Stalin was not a Russian? |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by ken6488(m): 9:54am On Sep 05, 2022 |
joyandfaith:Russia was even forced into the USSR |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by mysticwarrior(m): 10:08am On Sep 05, 2022 |
joyandfaith: The major reason for the Russian Revolution was to oust the Russian monarchy. The USSR was a confederation which was formed through treaty and agreement just like the former Czechoslovakia and Senegambia. In a confederation there is right of secession which means any party involved has the right to leave whenever they wish. Unlike federal system where there is no right of secession. 1 Like |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 11:22am On Sep 05, 2022 |
mysticwarrior: Go and read about Russian revolution and civil war that followed it. |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 11:22am On Sep 05, 2022 |
ken6488: Yes by Red Bolshevik |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 11:25am On Sep 05, 2022 |
ken6488: But not an ukranian. Georgians are paying the price now. He was an useful idiot for Russian hegemony in ussr like Gowon for fulani hegemony. |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by joyandfaith: 11:26am On Sep 05, 2022 |
ocelot2006:It doesn't not matter. |
Re: Putin Denies Gorbachev A State Funeral And Will Stay Away by Parachoko: 11:47am On Sep 05, 2022 |
Gorbachev made the USSR collapse. He should have arrested people like Yeltsin and send them to jail. |
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