Bigchristo:
the headline is misleading, His Royal Highness Oba of Benin does not leave his Kingdom, you would have better state it clear on the headline that he sent representatives instead of saying he participated, I am saying this in case of those who don’t understand the Benin tradition, that Baba nor Dey travel after ascending to the throne

Says who?

I don't think you know what you're saying please.

He is not the one there, he was represented by another person, but he travels even after ascending the throne.
Say what you know bro.

PrinceMajestic:
We still have some of these Bini sculptures even that of Oba Ozuola and Oba Akenzua and our own, my G.G grandpa's chariots and golden swords still in Lagos museum Badagry not in foreign lands. Oba is foolish for this act, highly disappointed in him. They stole from him and still invited him over for the display of the stolen items and he sent an Enogie to rep him. What a shame! Thank God my monarch isn't among those monarchs that went to bini for recognition in the old times and we're still the number 1 in my entire tribe and most senior ancestral stool. Ajuvwe me wo sun Tor!

You typed like you are a Benin man from the beginning but at the end you are saying "thank God your monarch is not there."
Benin get two kings?

mr1759:
If na some king now na them go attend that event themselves , but Oba of Nigeria send delegates. May your reign be long. I want Oba of Nigeria living in Benin city to open a school where other people who call themselves king can go for training on how to be a king

Na him twin brother travel to UK abi na him twin brother visit Buhari for Abuja sometimes ago abi?

Go and sit down joor.

gasparpisciotta:


Those airplanes and computers were developed from history.

The past is key to the future

Airplane and computer industries have museums tracing their evolution over the years.

Sadly, Africans haven't really flown clearly above the bronze making technology. However, I must admit that I am hopeful.

festacman:
These people built airplanes, cars, macro and mini computers, sundry electronic appliances, flew to the moon, etc but treat some bronze works from Africa as something mysterious.

Tell me why this is not just a ploy to hold us back to bronze age when they are far ahead in the hi-tech and digital worlds.

Ignorance.
Where is there own work in minerals 200yrs ago? If they cud plunder our intellectual property as u can see, can’t u imagine how they stole all our tech away from us?

festacman:


US is oil-rich, agriculturally strong, tech-dominating and digital-intimidating. How about that?

Ignorance
Wot u looking at in d museum is exactly how America became great. Take from others and add to urself. After WW2 they took all German scientists they cud find in Berlin. Since den they keep eagle watch on the world for bright and fecund minds. They have not sent u a green P in ur house becos u no hot. Otherwise u for shock

Banbanna:
You should use words carefully sometimes. How dare you call HRM foolish? Well, it isn't your fault by the way as anything goes in a faceless forum. In case you don't know, not all of the artefacts were returned as some were monetised and kept by
the German museums on a loan basis to be renewed after some years.

he was once just a HRH before he became HRM, so no big deal if I use such word to describe him in expressing my displeasure with his sending royal entourage to grace a show of pain, slavery and massive theft from the very father throne that birthed ours. I don't care if they're on loans or not, you think you know history of white men invasion? Maybe but you can never know the effects of it on the palaces. If you were born and raised in a primogeniture palace you would feel the real pain those muthafuckas caused. I don't need to argue with you because you can never have an idea what I'm talking about as we both belong to opposite worlds.

AllDModsAreMaad:

You typed like you are a Benin man from the beginning but at the end you are saying "thank God your monarch is not there."
Benin get two kings?

I didn't type "thank God my monarch is not there" my expression was "Thank God my Monarch is not among those ones who visited Benin for recognition from the Oba in old times" real kings don't seek recognition from other kings. I'm not a Benin man, I'm from the nearby state

Krismas:
Ignorance
Wot u looking at in d museum is exactly how America became great. Take from others and add to urself. After WW2 they took all German scientists they cud find in Berlin. Since den they keep eagle watch on the world for bright and fecund minds. They have not sent u a green P in ur house becos u no hot. Otherwise u for shock

Your points not clear. Thanks for engaging, though.

Look at the iron chair given to them - simplicity!

It it were in Nigeria, they will ask for golden chair

Chop chop position.

xpressionx:
My Benin friend once told me oba no dey travel.

Modified: Oba sent representatives I know,
but I have seen this Oba travel before

Oba no dey go transfer.

festacman:


Your points not clear. Thanks for engaging, though.

My point? Am sure u’ve heard of brain drain? Its real. All our best and brightest go to them! They actively precipitate it. All d bright minds in Uni back den have all gone. There was one very very popular medical graduate, his fame went round the school den. No sooner after his exams, he crossed over. Another guy I was introduced to, humble looking but I was told he is the father of all d clever! Even the VC knew him. After first class in Accounting, which is rear, the VC himself sent him abroad. Dats b4 youth service! The shocking part is, u will be in ur house, they will bring Green P to u. Na mumu dey queue for visa. If u are hot upstairs, American visa will queue for u. This is how they have maintained their tech edge. There is an ibo guy from UNN who broke a long standing record of 120yrs in MIT. NTA news carried it. Even Nigerian govt. was represented by Atiku Abubakar at his graduation. They take our brightest. That’s their trick.

AllDModsAreMaad:


Says who?

I don't think you know what you're saying please.

He is not the one there, he was represented by another person, but he travels even after ascending the throne.
Say what you know bro.

Ok I don hear you

Yureyes:

Umogun wasn’t there. He was represented by his brother.

That said, he dey travel! Oba Akenzua II went to the UK when he had to.

Is that one of the Oba's titles? What does it mean?

PrinceMajestic:
! Thank God my monarch isn't among those monarchs that went to bini for recognition in the old times and we're still the number 1 in my entire tribe and most senior ancestral stool. Ajuvwe me wo sun Tor!

Are you not Urhobo? Did you think you made any sense ? You are an Edo offspring and nothing more!!

Banbanna:
You should use words carefully sometimes. How dare you call HRM foolish? Well, it isn't your fault by the way as anything goes in a faceless forum. In case you don't know, not all of the artefacts were returned as some were monetised and kept by
the German museums on a loan basis to be renewed after some years.

Can you imagine!! And he is even urhobo fro that matter

AutomaticMotors:


Are you not Urhobo? Did you think you made any sense ? You are an Edo offspring and nothing more!!

not Edo offspring. Times changed, this is modern era. Be warned

PrinceMajestic:
not Edo offspring. Times changed, this is modern era. Be warned

Stop Barking!! What I said still stands!! Urhobo is an Edo Offspring and nothing more!! Except you want to deny your father!! No wonder among all the Edo Clans in delta na minority itshekiri dey dominate urhobo! Stay off that ogogoro boy!!!!

PrinceMajestic:
I didn't type "thank God my monarch is not there" my expression was "Thank God my Monarch is not among those ones who visited Benin for recognition from the Oba in old times" real kings don't seek recognition from other kings. I'm not a Benin man, I'm from the nearby state

OK, I get you now.

PrinceMajestic:
he was once just a HRH before he became HRM, so no big deal if I use such word to describe him in expressing my displeasure with his sending royal entourage to grace a show of pain, slavery and massive theft from the very father throne that birthed ours. I don't care if they're on loans or not, you think you know history of white men invasion? Maybe but you can never know the effects of it on the palaces. If you were born and raised in a primogeniture palace you would feel the real pain those muthafuckas caused. I don't need to argue with you because you can never have an idea what I'm talking about as we both belong to opposite worlds.

come
PM, I understand your position. But as from 1914 upon restoration, Benin had to become very pragmatic. Oba Eweka II had to be very savvy and wise to restore the monarchy. At least the Germans are doing more to return more of the artefacts. The British that looted and sold to others are still aloof about returning the large quantity in British Museum and other collections. When Prince Charles visited 9ja, other people were bragging about which row their kings sat in the meeting with Charles. Oba Ewuare II went to the meeting to ask the British for Benin artefacts to be returned. Not to Famzing with Charles. That is the difference between how Benin see the world and what others feel is important to them.

Benin resisted the British because we have had a long history with Europeans and we knew that colonisation would be disastrous. We always wanted co-operation, learn from them what we found useful but be independent. We did that for centuries before 1897. Since 1553 with with the British.

Yes, there needs to be engagements with various people, friends or former foes, for the benefit of Benin. As a former ambassador, Oba Ewuare II knows these things.

xpressionx:
My Benin friend once told me oba no dey travel.

Modified: Oba sent representatives I know,
but I have seen this Oba travel before

just shut up

Ikpeazukerosene:
The Oba wasn't there. He sent someone.

He is not like those hungry Ezes and Obi Obis who attend burials and fight for Adieu Papa T-shirt.

You see how easy it was for yu to insult a tribe

You mother failed in raising you. Its a pity.

I guess you mean Oba if Benin representative?

SIMONEKPA7:
See as Oyibo arrange artifect of hundreds of years in it original form, bring it home and see how everything go turn to dust

Don't be silly. They are making money from artifacts not meant for that purpose.So nice packaging behind glass walls is necessary.
The rightful owner wasn't thinking of profiting and profiteering from them
That I know will be difficult for you to understand.

festacman:
These people built airplanes, cars, macro and mini computers, sundry electronic appliances, flew to the moon, etc but treat some bronze works from Africa as something mysterious.

Tell me why this is not just a ploy to hold us back to bronze age when they are far ahead in the hi-tech and digital worlds.

It's from those bronze designs they learned how to do what you happily credit them for. That's the reason they provide maximum security for those " works".

mr1759:
If na some king now na them go attend that event themselves , but Oba of Nigeria send delegates. May your reign be long. I want Oba of Nigeria living in Benin city to open a school where other people who call themselves king can go for training on how to be a king

So because he is competing with billboard as an immobile object now, he deserve to teach others.

Backward mentality

festacman:
These people built airplanes, cars, macro and mini computers, sundry electronic appliances, flew to the moon, etc but treat some bronze works from Africa as something mysterious.

Tell me why this is not just a ploy to hold us back to bronze age when they are far ahead in the hi-tech and digital worlds.

Those bronze works were the Africans center of power not just mere wooden decorations like most ignorant Africans think.

SIMONEKPA7:
See as Oyibo arrange artifect of hundreds of years in it original form, bring it home and see how everything go turn to dust

You need to visit a Nigerian museum to see things for yourself. We actually have competent museum professionals who take their job seriously.

festacman:
These people built airplanes, cars, macro and mini computers, sundry electronic appliances, flew to the moon, etc but treat some bronze works from Africa as something mysterious.

Tell me why this is not just a ploy to hold us back to bronze age when they are far ahead in the hi-tech and digital worlds.

Am certain their planes and ships came from powers within those mysterious objects ,that's why they cherish it,Benin witches fly without air planes

Leave those items in Europe. If they where in Nigeria, a pastor or Imam would have burnt them long ago as idol.

xpressionx:
My Benin friend once told me oba no dey travel.

Modified: Oba sent representatives I know,
but I have seen this Oba travel before

did u see Oba there?