budaatum:


No need to be sorry. I'm still not giving you any education for free. Though if you were to be honest with yourself you'd admit to hardly ever reading what I've written.

Next time you do read what I write, share or quote it so we all know you've read please, and correct me where you think I've written it wrong. And as a bonus, comment on what you read so we can know if you've understood it or not.

Thanks in advance.

brightest5050:


You would have read to understand my point of view and not reading because you want to reply. The 7 month salary arrears is a major reason the union went on indefinite strike when government invoked the 'no work no pay policy'. The union deserve the Earned Academic Allowance and they deserve to be paid up till the last penny.

There was no salary arrears before the union went on strike so obviously salary arrears cannot be a reason for the initial strike that was came into effect Feb 14th.

When I said the pay you are clamouring for is it the salary arrear for 7 month they sat at home, it was actually a rethorical question but been that you answered no then I will ask these questions:

A) F.g not paying ASUU for the 7 month of the strike is it justified?

B) Or should FG pay ASUU for the 7 month strike on compassionate ground (any compassion whatsoever) but not because the union has the right to be paid for these 7 month?

Your answer to question A) and B) use it to answer if the union declaring indefinite strike because of 'no work no pay policy' of government is a good reason for a union that "want to save public institution from collapse"

AsuuKiller:
Something you guys don't understand is

Nobody is aiming to victimise anyone and hopefully it doesn't come to that

But Lecturers can wake up any day and decide to forestall the lives and plans of millions of students , including the bus / shuttle drivers , Shop owners on campus .

And at the end of the day they go Scott free and get fully paid everytime

I believe the government is aiming to end not just this strike , but future strikes also

HitRun:


A: No. it is not justified because they have worked partially.

B. Paying for those months they are on strike should not be termed compassionate, it is their right.

An academic’s job description in Nigeria is teaching, research, and community service. Members of ASUU only stopped offering the first out of the 3 services. Unless the FG (and all other self appointed assistant FGs) can prove that members of ASUU stopped offering the remaining two services, they have to pay.

I can assure you that members of ASUU can prove that they have been offering the other two services. At least I have assisted a couple of persons pay publication fees for journal papers within the last 7 months (Their money, I only facilitated the transactions because of dollar restriction palaver). If that isn’t proof enough that members of ASUU are working, I wonder what else can be proof enough.

budaatum:


No need to be sorry. I'm still not giving you any education for free. Though if you were to be honest with yourself you'd admit to hardly ever reading what I've written.

Next time you do read what I write, share or quote it so we all know you've read please, and correct me where you think I've written it wrong. And as a bonus, comment on what you read so we can know if you've understood it or not.

Thanks in advance.

AsuuKiller:


Something you guys don't understand is

Nobody is aiming to victimise anyone and hopefully it doesn't come to that

But Lecturers can wake up any day and decide to forestall the lives and plans of millions of students , including the bus / shuttle drivers , Shop owners on campus .

And at the end of the day they go Scott free and get fully paid everytime

I believe the government is aiming to end not just this strike , but future strikes also

budaatum:


Call off the strike and educate you for free and with no pay?

I hope you know that if you pay peanuts only monkeys would apply, and last time I checked monkeys teach nonsense.

Please know that you can not steal the education in my head without compensating me because I am far too educated for that. If I weren't you wouldn't be asking me to educate you.

Jessewizy:
It surprises me how people just wake up and create stupid threads. If you’re not a lecturer, you’ll not understand the plights of these people. ASUU have been crying in time past about how the government keeps reneging on agreements but we all look away like it doesn’t concern us, but when they strike, fools starts calling ASUU bad names.

ghettochild:

That's the negative impact of strike action all over the world...
They'd still get paid.
We have a bad government in Nigeria... A government that doesn't care of bout the masses.
I live in South Africa n do u know how much primary school teachers earn monthly
Do u know students go to university on bursary funds??
We have more resources than South Africa yet they better us in terms of infrastructure,agriculture,education,transportation inshort in everything.

AsuuKiller:
There has to be a better way to communicate lecturers interests rather than the "Stone age" methods of strikes and Blackmail .

Similar to bandits that kidnap Innocent people and demand ransom

AsuuKiller:


Lol FG might "De-register them" due to the auditing account issue . Thereby killing them

oshonwambada:
Make we hear word abeg.Many intelligent people are roaming about with no job.That you are one of the privileged ones to secure a job doesn't make you more intelligent than others.Lecturer this lecturer that

brightest5050:

A) F.g not paying ASUU for the 7 month of the strike is it justified?

brightest5050:
B) Or should FG pay ASUU for the 7 month strike on compassionate ground (any compassion whatsoever) but not because the union has the right to be paid for these 7 month?

brightest5050:
Your answer to question A) and B) use it to answer if the union declaring indefinite strike because of 'no work no pay policy' of government is a good reason for a union that "want to save public institution from collapse"

greenmonk:

you really write very badly for a lecturer

rusher14:

You really are a lecturer?
I'm sorry, but you write very badly for one if so.

budaatum:


No need to be sorry. I'm still not giving you any education for free. Though if you were to be honest with yourself you'd admit to hardly ever reading what I've written.

Next time you do read what I write, share or quote it so we all know you've read please, and correct me where you think I've written it wrong. And as a bonus, comment on what you read so we can know if you've understood it or not.

Thanks in advance.

hardbody:


Lawyers don't grant stay of execution, it is a prerogative of the courts. I am quoting a post you referenced.

GeneralBuhari:


This is exactly what I hate most about these frequent ASUU strikes.

The lecturers at the end of the day lose nothing, and that makes them to continue seeing going to strikes and getting FULLY paid at the end of it all their right.

That culture has to stop.

hardbody:


I am not exactly opinionated on this ASUU/FG imbroglio but i am just wondering

a. If our finances were not stolen by the high and mighty
b. If our monies were not frittered away by people in power stealing them and putting the blame on monkeys and snakes
c. If we did not encourage oil theft (either by action or inaction)
d. If we did something about NNPC ineptitude
e. If we punished criminal crimes and not released governors imprisoned for financial crimes
f. If the Minister of Petroleum was not the President
g. If we could get wind-falls from the Russia/Ukrainian fracas

Could things have been different?

What are both parties (ASUU/FG) doing badly and which needs to be changed?

AsuuKiller:


Oh I never said lawyers give stay of execution

I asked if it is Denied by the appeal court , can it be gotten from the Supreme court

Or they are referred back to the industrial court and the former injunction stands

AsuuKiller:
There has to be a better way to communicate lecturers interests rather than the "Stone age" methods of strikes and Blackmail .

Similar to bandits that kidnap Innocent people and demand ransom

GeneralBuhari:


Look at you.
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This entitlement mentality that it is your right to get paid after every of your numerous strikes MUST stop this time around.

In case you have forgotten, you guys declared a total strike.

Which means that NO WORK was done.

You take so much pride in calling yourselves "intellectuals" but essence you guys are not even that smart.

saintkel:
when is d appeal court ruling coming?

HitRun:


A: No. it is not justified because they have worked partially.

B. Paying for those months they are on strike should not be termed compassionate, it is their right.

An academic’s job description in Nigeria is teaching, research, and community service. Members of ASUU only stopped offering the first out of the 3 services. Unless the FG (and all other self appointed assistant FGs) can prove that members of ASUU stopped offering the remaining two services, they have to pay.

I can assure you that members of ASUU can prove that they have been offering the other two services. At least I have assisted a couple of persons pay publication fees for journal papers within the last 7 months (Their money, I only facilitated the transactions because of dollar restriction palaver). If that isn’t proof enough that members of ASUU are working, I wonder what else can be proof enough.

HitRun:


You are speaking to emotions. When you go to a court, you will have to show how total strike means no work. Let me however enlighten you on what total strike means; it means no teaching, no project supervision, no examination of any kind, no departmental, college or academic committee meetings, etc.

They are entitled because it is their money. They should have no apologies for that.

You say they are not smart? Let us wait and see whether FG will pay or not. After all the noise, they will pay that money. In any case, this 7 month (or whatever month) salary issue is just a distraction, there are more important issues - the main reason for the strike in the first place.

JJuanMiguel:

ASUU main issue is money and more money.
Majority of you are lamenting now on how you can't teach on empty stomachs now.
If FG refused to pay the 7 months sit at home money, ASUU can't do anything more than to remain at home for more months without salary.

The court of appeal will refer ASUU to NIC and that will be the end of the road

JJuanMiguel:

ASUU main issue is money and more money.
Majority of you are lamenting now on how you can't teach on empty stomachs now.
If FG refused to pay the 7 months sit at home money, ASUU can't do anything more than to remain at home for more months without salary.

The court of appeal will refer ASUU to NIC and that will be the end of the road

JJuanMiguel:

Refer to your strike memo, i think you are going against the directives of the ASUU excos.
It was stated clearly there that it should be a "total and comprehensive" strike, and all those things you stated up there that you've done and many more should be stopped.

budaatum:


Only fools would mind those who want to reap where they have not sown.

You, Sir, have honoured me. I am humble.

HitRun:


Were you the person who issued the memo? If not, then you do not have any basis for defining what ‘total and comprehensive’ means.

BadGenius:


So you know it's only fools that would mind those who want to reap where they've not sown, and you are clamouring for lecturers to be paid for the period they've not worked for

No insults, but i think your brain dey leak.

budaatum:

Of course it is justified! No work no pay.

Yes Government should pay ASUU if ASUU can make them, though they don't have the right to be paid, see above.

budaatum:


I sent you, so do blame me for your joblessness please.