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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by DeepSight(m): 6:29am On Oct 01, 2022 |
ken6488: Afghanistan, Libya. . . 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Neddstark: 6:30am On Oct 01, 2022 |
gambojimeta: Will you shut the hell up. So the Donestsk and Luhansk people should be consistently persecuted because they are pro-russian? 3 Likes |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:31am On Oct 01, 2022 |
Neddstark:Because Putin told you so. Dumbass. Minks2
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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Neddstark: 6:31am On Oct 01, 2022 |
SonOfTheRisingS: Russia is pro-Nigeria. Who sold us weapons to win the war? |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by alabo1: 6:34am On Oct 01, 2022 |
gambojimeta: Please keep quiet. Anti hypersonic and even supersonic missile interceptors have a success engagement rate of at best 10%. What happens to the rest. Even attacking a missile during your so called glide phase has a number of variables to be successful such as position of the launcher etc. Now with MITWs (multiple Independent Targetable Warheads) like the Satan 1 and 2 as well as a number of Warheads by US, China, Pakistan and co this becomes even more difficult. Read and learn bri 5 Likes |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:34am On Oct 01, 2022 |
alabo1:Keep your mouth shut. He was talking about using hypersonic for nuclear war head. |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:36am On Oct 01, 2022 |
DeepSight: I hate it when people bring in morality into any arguments, it betrays lack of valid reasons for your positions. Morality is a social construct that changes between societies, era and circumstances. Moral issues like human sacrifices, slavery, polygamy, homosexualism, prostitution, wars, genocide, fashion, abortion, substance abuse (smoking, marijuana, drug use,) etc evolves with time even within the same society. I never supported NATO's expansion to the east. But putin handling of the whole issues left much to be desired. 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by tete7000(m): 6:36am On Oct 01, 2022 |
Dmacqh:As much as western democracy comes with its loads of immorality and decay, socialism is also not free from decay. It is why USSR crumbled. None of the system can save humanity. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Neddstark: 6:36am On Oct 01, 2022 |
gambojimeta: I have been ardent in international politics way long before you began suckíng phalluses in a bid to get a visa to the US. |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by alabo1: 6:36am On Oct 01, 2022 |
gambojimeta: He has secured an additional buffer zone but maybe that is beyond your comprehension. Like I said you bots don't read. I am a historian and analyze without sentiment based on research. Even talking about safety everyday life in Russia is far better than the US, but of course CNN won't tell you that. 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:37am On Oct 01, 2022 |
Neddstark:Dummy. I don't even remember the last time I used a visa to travel let alone apply for one ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:38am On Oct 01, 2022 |
alabo1:A disputed region as buffer zone or your shallow brain thinks that conflicts will stop in the region because Putin waved a magic wand to annex them. Historian my arse. 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:40am On Oct 01, 2022 |
Johel: So as a black man, what has putin done for you or your country? I am sure satanic America has granted a close family member or friend citizenship to better their lives. 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Neddstark: 6:40am On Oct 01, 2022 |
gambojimeta: Say hello to your husband |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:41am On Oct 01, 2022 |
wirinet:Not only that. The billions of dollars in aid as well. |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:41am On Oct 01, 2022 |
Neddstark:Say hello to your boyfriend too. Fagggot 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by DeepSight(m): 6:43am On Oct 01, 2022 |
wirinet: Its virtually impossible to avoid moral arguments in any war. Morality is a social construct that changes between societies, era and circumstances. Moral issues like human sacrifices, slavery, polygamy, homosexualism, prostitution, wars, genocide, fashion, abortion, substance abuse (smoking, marijuana, This can be a quaint escapist argument for those nations who have committed abominations in the past. It is also very slippery because who is the judge of that evolution or the timespan required for it. Has there been moral evolution, for example, since the West's fraudulent war in Iraq over non-existent weapons of mass destruction - something which was a deliberate lie and which millions of people globally protested against? Afghanistan nko? Libya nko? I never supported NATO's expansion to the east. But putin handling of the whole issues left much to be desired. Agreed. But I must point out one thing: if you are in the habit of "doing anyhow" don't try to lecture your opponent on how to respond to your "anyhowness." Dem sef fit respond with anyhow. 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 6:47am On Oct 01, 2022 |
gambojimeta:Don't mind them anarchists. They even want to destroy their own destinies along with their country's. Lots of Nigerians have been integrated within the US (and British) political, economic,military and social systems, and a Nigerian is calling Putin an angel and the US Satan. Putin and Russia that hate black Africa like plague. 2 Likes |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by alabo1: 6:47am On Oct 01, 2022 |
gambojimeta: You slowpokes don't know and can't even understand simple English. What was I talking about if not using hypersonic missiles as Warheads? The point I was making is that even with the current supersonic Warheads defence systems are largely ineffective especially with the existence of MITWs. Get it? Let me repeat slooooowly. There is no current defence system against supersonic as well as hypersonic missiles that has a success rate higher than 20% and note these tests are always done in controlled situations. In real life battles few systems behave optimally. I await your response hopefully after some research 2 Likes |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Enumerator(m): 6:50am On Oct 01, 2022 |
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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by true2god: 6:51am On Oct 01, 2022 |
blueAgent:I am surprised that sonome can talk and think this way. You must be a white man to have the gut to write this nonsense.. Africa was relatively peaceful because the whites came and destroy this continent. The whites enslaved us, exploit us, colonized us and are still neocolonizing most part of Africa. You are talking rubbish 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Nobody: 6:52am On Oct 01, 2022 |
afribookorg:this meme no be from halita? ![]() |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by BentizilL: 6:53am On Oct 01, 2022 |
nairalee:It's only Russia that can do that, both Russia and the West know their weaknesses... |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by pacespot(m): 6:54am On Oct 01, 2022 |
OceanRed: You mean the Putin imposed leader? You are in Nigeria and you sound like you don't know how this politics works. Most of the people who voted in the Russia controlled referendum in those regions of Ukraine were coerced to do so, otherwise they risk jail time or seriou consequences if they did not vote along Russian line. How can Putin say he held a referendum for people of Russia descent in another country without any international observers present. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by pacespot(m): 6:55am On Oct 01, 2022 |
OceanRed: You mean the Putin imposed leaders? You are in Nigeria and you sound like you don't know how this politics thing works. Most of the people who voted in the Russia controlled referendum in those regions of Ukraine were coerced to do so, otherwise they risk jail time or serious consequences if they did not vote along Russian line. How can Putin say he held a referendum for people of Russia descent in another country without any international observers present. ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Guyman01: 6:56am On Oct 01, 2022 |
DigitalLawyer:Territory larger than Netherlands and Belgium have been annexed taken by Russia and CNN is talking about counteroffensive taking villages and calling it victory ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by alabo1: 6:56am On Oct 01, 2022 |
gambojimeta: Those who don't remember history always yap like you. In 2014 I spoke like this about Crimea and your ilk were spouting uninformed positions like this. I made the following assertion today that the 4 regions like Crimea are gone. Because you lack an understanding of geopolitics you can't see it. It does not matter if the west recognizes the annexation of the regions or not. For Russia they are now Russian territories an any incursion will be treated as an invasion with full consequences. The west wont risk MAD over those regions or even the whole Ukraine since they are not part of NATO. In order words It's checkmate- the regions declared are under Russian control and further millitary action by Ukraine will be treated as a full scale war with attendance result. Dispute my analysis with a logical one if you can not half baked dismissives 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by gambojimeta: 6:58am On Oct 01, 2022 |
Guyman01:Putin is so afraid of the advances in capturing these villages that he is now sending people trained for one week or two week max to Ukraine. More meat for the grinder. As we speak, battle is still raging in Lyman which is in the DPR and other parts of the annexed regions. Western bought weapons keep flowing in too. 1 Like
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Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Guyman01: 7:03am On Oct 01, 2022 |
Elsueno:Germany is weak and down and can only stand aside and watch a key pipeline destroyed that will damage their economy 2 Likes |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by wirinet(m): 7:06am On Oct 01, 2022 |
DeepSight: War is the last place to bring moral arguments. Throughout history morality had never been considered in war until the end of WW2 and the setting up of the Geneva Convention. If you followed the Greek wars, Roman wars, Gengis Khan Mongolian wars, you will see such things as genocide, rape, stealing (war booty), slavery, etc., were considered normal consequences of war. Even in the Bible rape, genocide and slavery were not considered immoral in war. As I said, exploitation of other people's land and resources had been an integral part of human history. Stronger and more cohesive societies exploit the weaknesses of weaker societies to their advantage. That's why the England, a people with land the size of yoruba land was able to conquer India, a whole continent and half the world. If Gadaffi had not weakened the political and social structure of the Libyan society so he could remain in power perpetually and the hand over to his son, the West would not have been able to exploit the division created.
I don't subscribe to the doctrine of whataboutism. Which is because someone else had done it justifies my doing same also. 1 Like |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by Skty: 7:08am On Oct 01, 2022 |
wirinet: Lol ...I even join like ur comment...nor be lie...let the do that at the battle field |
Re: Putin’s Speech On Annexation: What Exactly Did He Say? by timesupreloaded: 7:11am On Oct 01, 2022 |
Offpointng:Ukraine about the size of Osun? lol. Your brain don malfunction. Ukraine is the biggest country in Europe excluding Russia. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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