Please I bring this under religious section for a reason, this is my personal story, I am now a born again Christian who is separated from a woman that is far from ideal but deceived me, while we were dating i was just a lukewarm Christian who just try to fulfil righteous and tick the right boxes in society. Unfortunately for me, we got married then we separated after four months what was the cause of our separation was that she is plain stubborn who is over entitlement mentality is awful, I don't want to bore you so many intricacies, we got separated and her family tried to bring us back even though they are obviously supporting her, now fast forward two and the half years later we are separated living separatly, now i am heaven conscious but if i were to live in the flesh i will say i don't want to have anything to do with her again but due to the fact that i am now a born again Christian i called her and she said she is no longer interested. i honestly don't also want her but not my will but the will of my father be done , i have been searching the Scripture but with no clear answer about this, we are separated i cant say i have seen her cheating but this woman is ultra stubborn, she is just one big hell of a person, but cheating i doubt. please what does the Scripture say about such divorce i will apreciate yur input from a Christian babes

pappy2000:
Please I bring this under religious section for a reason, this is my personal story, I am now a born again Christian who is separated from a woman that is far from ideal but deceived me, while we were dating i was just a lukewarm Christian who just try to fulfil righteous and tick the right boxes in society. Unfortunately for me, we got married then we separated after four months what was the cause of our separation was that she is plain stubborn who is over entitlement mentality is awful, I don't want to bore you so many intricacies, we got separated and her family tried to bring us back even though they are obviously supporting her, now fast forward two and the half years later we are separated living separatly, now i am heaven conscious but if i were to live in the flesh i will say i don't want to have anything to do with her again but due to the fact that i am now a born again Christian i called her and she said she is no longer interested. i honestly don't also want her but not my will but the will of my father be done , i have been searching the Scripture but with no clear answer about this, we are separated i cant say i have seen her cheating but this woman is ultra stubborn, she is just one big hell of a person, but cheating i doubt. please what does the Scripture say about such divorce i will apreciate yur input from a Christian babes

Even though Jesus said God hates divorce.....i dont think jesus meant u must remain with someone in marriage by force..
If you safety, mental health is on the line u cant kill yourself........and u cant force anyone to remain married with you..

.if she doesnt want you, u have made effort, and even prayed about reconciliation.....u have to move on....u will know in your heart u have tried to obey your Lord and not decieving yourself ......even jesus said he stands at the door knocking...he doesnt force himself on anyone...

Divorce is only accepted if your partner commit adultery, abuse or a threat to you.
You also can separate from your partner separate is different from divorce.

pappy2000:
Please I bring this under religious section for a reason, this is my personal story, I am now a born again Christian who is separated from a woman that is far from ideal but deceived me, while we were dating i was just a lukewarm Christian who just try to fulfil righteous and tick the right boxes in society. Unfortunately for me, we got married then we separated after four months what was the cause of our separation was that she is plain stubborn who is over entitlement mentality is awful, I don't want to bore you so many intricacies, we got separated and her family tried to bring us back even though they are obviously supporting her, now fast forward two and the half years later we are separated living separatly, now i am heaven conscious but if i were to live in the flesh i will say i don't want to have anything to do with her again but due to the fact that i am now a born again Christian i called her and she said she is no longer interested. i honestly don't also want her but not my will but the will of my father be done , i have been searching the Scripture but with no clear answer about this, we are separated i cant say i have seen her cheating but this woman is ultra stubborn, she is just one big hell of a person, but cheating i doubt. please what does the Scripture say about such divorce i will apreciate yur input from a Christian babes

Since you tried to reconcile and she refused let her go.

If she said she is not interested let her go.

1 Corinthians 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

SeniorMan715:
Divorce is only accepted if your partner commit adultery, abuse or a threat to you.
You also can separate from your partner separate is different from divorce.

Wrong! Divorce is allowed and is not sin. Instead what is potential sin is trying to remarry after a divorce, and this if your divorce was not as a result of fornication in marriage.

While divorce in and of itself is not sin, it is warned that the one who divorces the other may become guilty of causing the other partner to sin.

https://www.nairaland.com/7078665/divorce-not-sin-jesus-christ#111946256

pappy2000:
but if i were to live in the flesh i will say i don't want to have anything to do with her again but due to the fact that[b] i am now a born again Christian[/b] i called her and she said she is no longer interested. i honestly don't also want her but not my will but the will of my father be done , i have been searching the Scripture but with no clear answer about this, we are separated i cant say i have seen her cheating but this woman is ultra stubborn, she is just one big hell of a person, but cheating i doubt. please what does the Scripture say about such divorce i will apreciate yur input from a Christian babes

Is it your intention to remarry after you are divorced from your current wife?

Also, you sound like you have yet to forgive her in your relationship, do you at least understand that in order for God to forgive your own sins, you have to forgive all others of their own sins against you?

Kobojunkie:
Is it your intention to remarry after you are divorced from your current wife?

Also, you sound like you have yet to forgive her in your relationship, do you at least understand that in order for God to forgive your own sins, you have to forgive all others of their own sins against you?

I have forgiven her

I intend to remarry

pappy2000:

I have forgiven her

I intend to remarry

Given that fornication isn't the reason for your divorce, I am afraid remarriage is a sin in that case.

https://www.nairaland.com/7078665/divorce-not-sin-jesus-christ#111946256

Kobojunkie:
Given that fornication isn't the reason for your divorce, I am afraid remarriage is a sin in that case.

https://www.nairaland.com/7078665/divorce-not-sin-jesus-christ#111946256

this is heart breaking

pappy2000:
this is heart breaking

Heartbreaking? I thought you said you were looking to forego it all so you could live life pleasing God instead, and according to God it is quite sensible to live as a Eunuch for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 10 - 12.

Kobojunkie:
Heartbreaking? I thought you said you were looking to forego it all so you could live life pleasing God instead, and according to God it is quite sensible to live as a Eunuch for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 10 - 12.

My brother i am in my early 40s still young only one child , i wish i could remarry and start a new life but with your submission i cant just imagine living with that hell of a woman

Kobojunkie:
Heartbreaking? I thought you said you were looking to forego it all so you could live life pleasing God instead, and according to God it is quite sensible to live as a Eunuch for the sake of His Kingdom - Matthew 19 vs 10 - 12.

that is why i said this is heart breaking. this woman deceived me into marrying her knwoing fully well she is evil. there are red flags which i dont see but now i can see what of if i decide to marry one more wife and stl get married to her ceremoniously

pappy2000:

My brother i am in my early 40s still young only one child , i wish i could remarry and start a new life but with your submission i cant just imagine living with that hell of a woman

Ok

pappy2000:

that is why i said this is heart breaking. this woman deceived me into marrying her knwoing fully well she is evil. there are red flags which i dont see but now i can see what of if i decide to marry one more wife and stl get married to her ceremoniously

I thought you said you have forgiven her, why then does it seem as though you are still filled with vitriol towards her?

pappy2000:

My brother i am in my early 40s still young only one child , i wish i could remarry and start a new life but with your submission i cant just imagine living with that hell of a woman

you can remarry.
Read my reply to you.
Since your wife is not interested anymore you are free.
That is what the Scriptures said.

Read 1 Corinthians 7. When an unbelieving spouse whether wife chooses to leave the marriage then the beliver is free in that case.



There are two ways you can be free to marry.
1. Either when the other spouse die or
2 when the other spouse quits.
Don't let people decieve you.

Steep:
you can remarry.
Read my reply to you.
Since your wife is not interested anymore you are free.
That is what the Scriptures said.

Read 1 Corinthians 7. When an unbelieving spouse whether wife chooses to leave the marriage then the beliver is free in that case.



There are two ways you can be free to marry.
1. Either when the other spouse die or
2 when the other spouse quits.




Don't let people decieve you.

i think this should be right i will try to make entreaties i hope she wont accept

pappy2000:





i think this should be right i will try to make entreaties i hope she wont accept

You have to pray about it first. Pray that God should reveal the real problem, there may be something behind it.

pappy2000:
i think this should be right i will try to make entreaties i hope she wont accept

LOL... so you think you can override that decreed by Jesus Christ by choosing instead another doctrine which does not align with what He stated?

Anyways, good luck!

Kobojunkie:
LOL... so you think you can override that decreed by Jesus Christ by choosing instead another doctrine which does not align with what He stated?

Anyways, good luck!

so what do u suggest?. I should go back to that monster

pappy2000:
so what do u suggest?. I should go back to that monster

Do as Jesus Christ decreed and stop trying to justify your flesh.

pappy2000:



so what do u suggest?. I should go back to that monster

Don't mind kobo junkie.

You cannot divorce your wife.
Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

10:12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

But, however if your wife decide on her own she wants to quit you are free in that case.

Steep:
Don't mind kobo junkie.

You cannot divorce your wife.
Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.

10:12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

But, however if your wife decide on her own she wants to quit you are free in that case.

i just want to live right

pappy2000:
i just want to live right

Living right is doing what Jesus Christ says, no seeking loopholes that break what He says.

Again, as Jesus Christ made clear, divorce itself is not a sin. However, what is sin is remarriage where fornication wasn't the reason for divorce. That is what Jesus Christ Himself said.

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■ Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32

31 “It was also said, ‘Any man who divorces his wife must give her a written notice of divorce.’
32 But I tell you that any man who divorces his wife, except for the problem of sexual sin, is causing his wife to be guilty of adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman is guilty of adultery. - Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32

■ Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9

7 The Pharisees asked, “Then why did Moses give a command allowing a man to divorce his wife by writing a certificate of divorce?”
8 Jesus answered, “Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because you refused to accept God’s teaching. But divorce was not allowed in the beginning.
9 I tell you that whoever divorces his wife, except for the problem of sexual sin, and marries another woman is guilty of adultery.” - Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9

■Mark 10 vs 10- 12

10 Later, when the followers and Jesus were in the house, they asked him again about the question of divorce. 
11 He said, “Whoever divorces his wife and marries another woman has sinned against his wife. He is guilty of adultery. 
12  And the woman who divorces her husband and marries another man is also guilty of adultery.” - Mark 10 vs 10- 12

■ Luke 16 vs 18

18 “Any man who divorces his wife and marries another woman is guilty of adultery. And the man who marries a divorced woman is also guilty of adultery.” - Luke 16 vs 18

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If you logically reason out what Jesus Christ stated above, you will see that even the person who ends up marrying you will also be guilty of sin of adultery if care is nor taken - this irrespective of who it was that initiated the divorce. Neither does it matter whether the one you divorce wore the "Christian" badge or not, this obviously since marriage is of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.

Open your eyes and consider tye Truth of that stated by Jesus Christ Himself, the very Truth of God.

pappy2000:



i just want to live right

commendable of you. First you have to go into prayer to ask God for his will in all of this.

You can separate yourself from her, while you pray. It seems your wife is not a Christian, that is the mistake you made if it is so.

Also it seems she is done with the marriage, if so, let her go and have your peace.
In that case you are free to marry someone else.

Kobojunkie:
Living right is doing what Jesus Christ says, no seeking loopholes that break what He says.

Again, as Jesus Christ made clear, divorce itself is not a sin. However, what is sin is remarriage where fornication wasn't the reason for divorce. That is what Jesus Christ Himself said.

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■ Matthew 5 vs 31 - 32

■ Matthew 19 vs 7 - 9

■Mark 10 vs 10- 12

■ Luke 16 vs 18

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If you logically reason out what Jesus Christ stated above, you will see that even the person who ends up marrying you will also be guilty of sin of adultery if care is nor taken - this irrespective of who it was that initiated the divorce. Neither does it matter whether the one you divorce wore the "Christian" badge or not, this obviously since marriage is of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34 - 36.

Open your eyes and consider tye Truth of that stated by Jesus Christ Himself, the very Truth of God.

my brother what about marrying another wife why still techically keeping her, because sincerely we have cross the rubicon

pappy2000:
my brother what about marrying another wife why still techically keeping her, because sincerely we have cross the rubicon

If you ask me, I think if you are not really born-again, I think you should drop the God act completely so you can have your wife and worldly pleasures and avoid the risk of ending up in Hell altogether.

You see, only those who are born-again can end up in Hell - since access through the broad gate which leads into the Kingdom of God is available only to those who are also born-again. So if it is not top late, better run from it - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 . Second, Jesus Christ said He has come to call those who are weary - tired of this world- and heavy laden - Matthew 11 vs 28 - 30. You don't seem to be as you are still looking to hold on to parts of the world while with the other, you grasp Jesus Christ.

This Covenant you make with Jesus Christ is an eternal meaning once you are born-again, there is no breaking out of the contract and so it is utmost that you abandon everything like He said in order to gain Heaven. And as He said, no one who still loves father, mother, wife, husband, sister, brother, children, friends, etc., more than Him Is worthy of Him - Matthew 10 vs 34 - 38. So it is better not to sign up at all than to sign up only to end up in eternal damnation.

dont condemn people , that is bad, you dont know what the hell i went throguh with that woman, fine she wasnt a cheat, but she was very disrespectful, exteremely ungrateful and if i were to go back to her i will be a living hell, the woman is just pure evil, in my heart i have forgiven her but ow can i live with someone who is so entitled . i am 43, with only one child, are you suggesting I should remain single for the rest of my life.

pappy2000:
dont condemn people , that is bad, you dont know what the hell i went throguh with that woman, fine she wasnt a cheat, but she was very disrespectful, exteremely ungrateful and if i were to go back to her i will be a living hell, the woman is just pure evil, in my heart i have forgiven her but ow can i live with someone who is so entitled . i am 43, with only one child, are you suggesting I should remain single for the rest of my life.

Who is telling you to go back to the woman?

And why do you feel condemned when all I have done is tell you what is in fact written in the Gospels for anyone who has eyes to read and learn for themselves?

As for remaining single, Jesus Christ said God has permitted some to live as such for the sake of His Kingdom. Are you somehow better/more human/more deserving/more alive than those who made that choice in other to secure a place for themselves in Heaven?

Kobojunkie:
Who is telling you to go back to the woman?

And why do you feel condemned when all I have done is tell you what is in fact written in the Gospels for anyone who has eyes to read and learn for themselves?

As for remaining single, Jesus Christ said God has permitted some to live as such for the sake of His Kingdom. Are you somehow better/more human/more deserving/more alive than those who made that choice in other to secure a place for themselves in Heaven?

so what you suggest is i should remain single to have eternal life.

You should not have given room for the first separation. Your two eyes were opened when you chose her among several other women. The price you have to pay if you are now born again, is to pray for her stubbornness and not remarry, that is the price for chosing the wrong partner.

Paul and Jesus in their words say you can't remarry if cause of separation was not adultery. A lot of churches cannot Stick to the law, they are tempted to allow people remarry. Since you two don't enjoy living together, then live apart, while still befriending each other.

pappy2000:

I have forgiven her

I intend to remarry

pappy2000:
So what you suggest is i should remain single to have eternal life.

Funny thing here is I don't even need to suggest that to you to begin with since it is more than clear that doing otherwise amounts to sin.

So if God isn't for you, and you are not in fact born-again as in born of spirit, I suggest you instead go back to the world and live out the rest of your days rather than choose eternity only to fall short after all is said and done.

Kobojunkie:
Funny thing here is I don't even need to suggest that to you to begin with since it is more than clear that doing otherwise amounts to sin.

So if God isn't for you, and you are not in fact born-again as in born of spirit, I suggest you instead go back to the world and live out the rest of your days rather than choose eternity only to fall short after all is said and done.

my brother i have seek clarification and I can clearly tell you are wrong, firstly you dont understand the spirit of the Scripture.Firstly i married my wife as an unbeliever, dont heap more load than what the Lord has allow me to carry. you damn wrong and i believe in my spirit that I am right if i were to remarry, i will try to make last reconcillation move in the next coming days, the Bible doesnt say i should remain in bondage. thanks Mr righteousness. You dont understand the Scripture.