AntiChristian:


Those who would help place the dead body in the grave must be free from sexual impurity! So of what use is your attachment?

FxMasterz:


Those who would place the body in the grave for the prophet to copulate with must be free from sexual impurity? Hahaha!!

The prophet even asked one of his followers, Abu Talha who has not had sex for a while to enter the grave for sex with the corpse. Chai!!

AntiChristian:


Which moniker did i present it with you? Na so you chamelons dey change color from one moniker to another!
It seem that your colleague in folly is your MOG sef cos you must mention him as you can't say anything on your own!

And of what use is the attachment you attached?

Sixfiguresmart:
Is islam a family business or not? Which is it all about mohammed and his family?

Sunan Abi Dawud 4284 Book 38, Hadith 6 Book 37, Hadith 4271

The Prophet said: The Mahdi will be of my family, of the descendants of Fatimah. Abdullah ibn Jafar said: I heard AbulMalih praising Ali ibn Nufayl and describing his good qualities.

AntiChristian:


You are ignorant of Islamic practices which would take a while to explain to you.

1. One who copulates must have a bath to be clean and to be able to pray! He was the one who was clean at that time as most were married and may of course have had sex with their wife.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Hadith Number 374.
Narated By Anas bin Malik : We were (in the funeral procession) of one of the daughters of the Prophet and he was sitting by the side of the grave. I saw his eyes shedding tears. He said, “Is there anyone among you who did not have sexual relations with his wife last night?” Abu Talha replied in the affirmative. And so the Prophet told him to get down in the grave. And so he got down in her grave.

Where did you see the Prophet copulating with the dead which happen to be his daughter in the above hadith?

FxMasterz:


Your explanation about Abu Talha is reasonable but what did he go into the grave to do? To wash the corpse? I know this can't be. To pray for the dead? He could stand atop the graveside and pray. But anyway, let me hear the reason from you.

Mohammed copulated with a dead woman in the text attached below:

FxMasterz:


Your explanation about Abu Talha is reasonable but what did he go into the grave to do? To wash the corpse? I know this can't be. To pray for the dead? He could stand atop the graveside and pray. But anyway, let me hear the reason from you.

Mohammed copulated with a dead woman in the text attached below:

AntiChristian:


Check the attached "Lahd" grave. How will the dead be placed in that side hole if there's no one to assist in their?

The grave is not the usual straight forward type you guys know. This is the most preferred typed in Islam as it offers more protection. The dead body is sealed in afterwards.

And mind you he's not praying in the grave.

AntiChristian:


Also the reference of the hadith you quoted is false!

FxMasterz:


Well, that's okay.

What about Mohammed sleeping with a corpse?

FxMasterz:


What's the correct reference?

AntiChristian:


Give a referenced and "authentic" hadith where that was done clearly!

Clearer than what is available in the Bible below.

Then Elisha got on the bed and lay on the (dead) boy, mouth to mouth, eye to eye, and hand to hand. As he stretched himself out over him, the boy’s body became warm. 2 Kings 4:34

FxMasterz:


That was how Elisha raised a dead boy back to life after several attempts to raise him. Gehazi first placed Elisha's staff on him, no show. Elisha paced the room for some time. The mother was wailing and making demands on Elijah until Elijah received the inspiration to lay on, and no lay with him.

Mohammed on the other hand didn't do it to raise the dead. He didn't sleep on but slept with the woman. Those phrases up there mean different things.

AntiChristian:
The act was done indoors with only Elisha there with the dead boy! The mother was outside. Elisha slept on the boy! He didn't have sex with him right?

How is it that Muhammad that was with his companions have sex with a woman that has been shrouded and tied in the islamic way before being laid in the grave? But Elisha that was alone in the room with a boy on the bed didn't have sex with the boy?

And where is the refference for your accusation or can we call it a liar without any reliable source?

FxMasterz:


Your hadith says he slept with her. Your Hadith didn't say he slept on her. I saw how sixfiguresmart bashed you on this. He even quoted what your popular imams said about the sexual abomination in affirmation. Or, let's move on to the thread created on this issue by sixfigurescat.

AntiChristian:


Give us the reference first! I don't need you to mention your colleague in folly here. Conclude your argument by giving us the reference for your lies in our Books. You lied up that the hadith was in Bukhari. Na Holy Spirit and Jesus send you to tell lies?

Elisha too slept alone on the boy mouth to mouth, eye to eye, and hand to hand. Was it sex too?

And how will one even have sex with the dead body in the lahd grave i explained earlier if you had been attentive?

AntiChristian:


Give us the reference first! I don't need you to mention your colleague in folly here. Conclude your argument by giving us the reference for your lies in our Books. You lied up that the hadith was in Bukhari. Na Holy Spirit and Jesus send you to tell lies?

Elisha too slept alone on the boy mouth to mouth, eye to eye, and hand to hand. Was it sex too?

And how will one even have sex with the dead body in the lahd grave i explained earlier if you had been attentive?

thorpido:

“For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.” (Matt. 22:23–30.)
Jesus made the above statement.

FxMasterz:


I know you thought I won't find it, having quoted the wrong Hadith. This is a Hadith you know very well. I saw how you weakly defended it on her thread but now you feign ignorance and called me a liar. Typical of Muslims. Great servants of Allah.

Now, this is it:

Kanz al-‘Ommal in Sunan al Aqwal wa al-Af’al
vol 16, pg 158

The prophet of allah took off his gown and put it on Om Ali and slept with her in her grave and they kicked dirt on him, saying: ‘Oh messenger of allah, we saw you do something no one else has ever done.’ He said: ‘I dressed her in my gown, so she can wear the gowns of paradise and I slept with her in her grave to relieve her of the torments of the grave.'” She was the best of allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib.

The two Arabic words ( ataja' ma'ha ﺍﺿﻄﺠﻊ ﻣﻌﻬﺎ ) which is translated above as "slept with her" are indeed used in Arabic to mean "intercourse." This is similar to the English idiom "to lay with her," which can literally mean nothing more than laying down with a woman, but often is a reference to intercourse. More than a few Muslim clerics have made this linguistic observation. On the other hand, the Bible uses "Lay with her." Or 'Went in into her." To mean intercourse. This wasn't reflected in the Elisha episode you falsely quoted.

The Arabic scholar Demetrius explains: The Arabic word used here for "slept" is "Id'tajat," and literally means "lay down" with her. It is often used to mean, "lay down to have sex."
Muhammad is understood as saying that because he slept with her she has become like a wife to him so she will be considered like a “mother of the [Muslims].” This will supposedly prevent her from being tormented in the grave, since the [unbelievers] believed that as people wait for the Judgment Day they will be tormented in the grave. “Relieve of the torments” here means that the torment won’t be as much because she is now a “mother of the Muslims" after Muhammad slept with her and “consummated” the union.

You guys Sha. Muslims!!!

FxMasterz:


Your hadith says he slept with her. Your Hadith didn't say he slept on her. I saw how sixfiguresmart bashed you on this. He even quoted what your popular imams said about the sexual abomination in affirmation. Or, let's move on to the thread created on this issue by sixfiguresmart.

Sixfiguresmart:

Surah 112:1 قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;

In the Quranic verse, allah is mentioned to be ONE OF...

The actual word used up there in the quran is أَحَدٌ (Ahad) meaning 'one OF'. So just as the quran uses 'we' to personate allah, there are surely them out there in Mecca. 'Wahid' means 'one'.

Another point is the spurious insertion of AND INDIVISIBLE in the English version when such a thing is not present in the Arabic inscription above.

Where did they get it?

AntiChristian answer the above

AntiChristian:


You should ask your God why Abraham and his descendants...

Abeg no dey interfere in my discussion with person wey get small sense! You lack sense, consistency, appropriateness and truthfulness!

AntiChristian:


Which moniker did i present it with you? Na so you chamelons dey change color from one moniker to another!
It seem that your colleague in folly is your MOG sef cos you must mention him as you can't say anything on your own!

And of what use is the attachment you attached?

Sixfiguresmart:

Surah 112:1 قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “He is Allah—One ˹and Indivisible˺;

In the Quranic verse, allah is mentioned to be ONE OF...

The actual word used up there in the quran is أَحَدٌ (Ahad) meaning 'one OF'. So just as the quran uses 'we' to personate allah, there are surely them out there in Mecca. 'Wahid' means 'one'.

Another point is the spurious insertion of AND INDIVISIBLE in the English version when such a thing is not present in the Arabic inscription above.

Where did they get it?

AntiChristian answer the above

FxMasterz:

He's sleeping. Let me wake him up.

MindHacker9009:


GENESIS 6:4 "when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men who were of old, men of renown."
The sons of God are angels and they were having $ex with women meaning angels too can have $ex, this is proof that the Jesus stories in the New Testament are made up, better to look for the true God in the Old Testament.

thorpido:
Angels are spirit beings who cannot have sex but God gives them power to transform into human beings and then they can do what humans do.\
In heaven,there is no flesh and there is no sex organ.

AntiChristian:


Wahid is different from Ahad.
Here, one should fully understand that the word wahid is used in Arabic just like the word "one" in English. A collection consisting of great pluralities is collectively called wahid or one, as one man, one nation, one country, one world, even one universe, and every separate part of a collection is also called one. But the word Ahad is not used for anyone except Allah. That is why wherever in the Qur'an the word wahid has been used for Allah, He has been called itah wahid (one Deity), or Allah-ulWahid-al-Qahhar. (One Allah Who is Omnipotent), and nowhere just wahid, for this word ' is also used for the things which contain pluralities of different kinds in their being. On the contrary, for Allah and only for Allah the word Ahad has been used absolutely, for He alone is the Being Who exists without any plurality in any way, Whose Oneness is perfect in every way.

Abeg no be you i find come here as you no get any iota of sense!

AntiChristian:
Chai! Is this Bukhari? or Muslim? or Nissai? or Tirmidhi? Ibn Majah? Abu Dawud?

Even some of the books of hadiths above still have weak hadiths not to talk of these your source!

Let's agree that you lied earlier, Kanz al-‘Ommal in Sunan al Aqwal wa al-Af’al can't be said to be a source of your argument.

Check wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanz_al-Ummal and see the tag description. It contains a mix of reliable and unreliable hadiths.



I love this your argument!

Now the same word is used in the Arabic Bible for Elisha slept on the boy! So you are a liar again on this too!

ثم صعد واضطجع فوق الصبي ووضع فمه على فمه وعينيه على عينيه ويديه على يديه وتمدّد عليه فسخن جسد الولد.
2 Kings 4:34 in Arabic
Then Elisha got on the bed and lay on the (dead) boy, mouth to mouth, eye to eye, and hand to hand. As he stretched himself out over him, the boy’s body became warm.

Seems it's a common thing for Christians to falsify lies against Muslims all the time.

Na reason why i no dey answer una again!

FxMasterz:


Muslims are confirmed liars! Seems it's a common thing for Muslims to falsify facts and distort the truth.

You claim the same word was used in Arabic Bible for Elisha as used in the Quran for Mohammed. However, I'm not the translator of the Quran. The tranlation says Mohammed slept with her. The English Bible says Elijah slept on him.

Your Muslim scholars have commented on the same verse you're shamelessly defending. I quoted the words of one of your scholars in explaning the Arabic word. Am I the liar or your scholars?

Well, it's not in your power to defend your Quran. That's the job of your ulema: the scholars and clerics devoted to learning the doings and sayings of the founder of islam. Thus, the real question: Do the ulema agree or deny that necrophilia {sex with the dead) is permissible in Islam?
Well, let's hear them speak...

Abd Al-Hameed Al-Sharawani, Howashi al-Sharwani-
Al-Qubra, Egypt: Al-Maktabah Al-Tojariah, 1983, vol 1, pg 263
There is no need to rewash a dead woman if her husband has sex with her after she dies….And there is no punishment for anyone who has sex with a dead woman or limits sex to sex with a dead woman.”

Mohammad Al-Sherbini Al-Khateeb, Al-Iqna3 fi Hal al-Faz: Abu Shoja’a
Beirut: Dar al-Fikr, 1994, vol 2, pg 521
There is no restriction against sex with a dead woman or an animal.
Even animals...

Islam's four orthodox schools of jurisprudence (or madhahib al-fiqh ) -- namely, al-Hanafi, al-Hanbali, al-Maliki, and al-Shafi'i-- implicitly permit necrophilia. None of them actually address it on its own; rather, they give it a nod when it comes up in the context of other topics.

In the section on adultery, the Maliki teaching is this:
Sharh Mukhtasar al-Khalil In al-fiqh al-Maliki
If a husband enters his dead wife -- any which way, from front or behind -- there is no penalty for him.

Lying Muslim!!

thorpido:
Angels are spirit beings who cannot have sex but God gives them power to transform into human beings and then they can do what humans do.
In heaven,there is no flesh and there is no sex organ.