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What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 8:41am On Nov 12, 2022 |
CNN — Scenes of jubilation broke out in Ukraine’s southern Kherson city on Friday as Ukrainian forces advanced through much of the city and its surrounding area, apparently encountering little or no resistance as they regained the only regional capital captured by Russia this year. Russian forces have retreated to the east bank of the Dnipro River, which cleaves through the wider region, also called Kherson, that was annexed by Russia in September in violation of international laws. The withdrawal is another humiliating setback for Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, and the most significant military moment in the war since Ukrainian forces swept through the northern Kharkiv region in September. What just happened? The Russian withdrawal was ordered on Wednesday during a choreographed meeting in Moscow between Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and General Sergey Surovikin, the commander of Russia’s forces in Ukraine, which was shown on Russian state media. In leaving the western half of Kherson, the Russians have pulled back from thousands of square kilometers, including some of Ukraine’s best farmland, which it has occupied since the early days of the invasion. Surovikin said that the withdrawal would protect the lives of civilians and troops – who have faced a punishing Ukrainian counteroffensive that targeted Russian ammunition depots and command posts, hampering their supply lines. Russian forces have now ceded about 40% of the Kherson region, which straddles the Dnipro, within a few days. Now that Ukrainian forces have recaptured Kherson as far as the Dnipro river, the two sides face each other across the river over a distance of some 250 kilometers (155 miles) – from the area around the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant to the edge of the Black Sea What it means for Russia The withdrawal – while presented as a prudent military move to save resources and allow them to be deployed to other fronts – nevertheless deals a blow to Moscow’s campaign in Ukraine. Just weeks ago Kherson region was annexed, illegally incorporated into the Russian Federation. Now about 10,000 square kilometers of land are back in Ukrainian hands, and Ukraine’s accurate Western-supplied artillery is within range of Crimea. Russia still however retains control of about 60% of the Kherson region, south and east of the Dnipro, including the coastline along the Sea of Azov. So long as Moscow’s troops control and fortify the Dnipro’s east bank, Ukrainian forces will struggle to damage or disrupt the canal that carries fresh water to Crimea. Moving to the east bank will make it EASIER for Russia to replenish its troops and regain defense in depth. Any attempt by Ukrainian forces to cross the Dnipro would be costly to the point of prohibitive, as Russian forces are well dug in along a stretch of the river. Pillbox guardhouses have become a common sight; trenches appeared on satellite imagery and civilians were unceremoniously removed from homes close to the river. In Moscow, some hawkish commentators have lamented the withdrawal as a humiliation and an embarrassment. But others who were previously critical of the Defense Ministry have accepted the move. Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov said Surovikin had saved a thousand soldiers and “made a difficult but right choice between senseless sacrifices for the sake of loud statements and saving the priceless lives of soldiers.” Kadyrov added that Kherson was a difficult place to fight, especially without guaranteed resupply routes. What it means for Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky hailed Friday as “a historic day” for Ukraine. “We are returning the south of our country, we are returning Kherson,” Zelensky said. The Ukrainian military’s fresh success, on the heels of a lightning fast advance across much of Kharkiv in September, will help reinforce international support for Ukraine’s war effort, even as US officials are urging Zelensky to soften his rhetoric on negotiations, if not his core demands. Success in Kherson may also allow exhausted Ukrainian units some respite, as well as allow redirected focus on Donbas, where fierce fighting continues in both Luhansk and Donetsk. But Russia has PLENTY of weaponry and tens of thousands of newly mobilized troops to send into battle, and its campaign against Ukrainian infrastructure has left power and water supplies hanging by a thread in many regions. Ukraine is slowly receiving advanced air defenses from Western donors but has a huge area to defend Source—https://edition cnn com/2022/11/11/europe/ukraine-russia-kherson-dnipro-explainer-intl/index.html Satellite Images of the #Kherson Bridges Antonovsky and Darevsky bridges in the Kherson region blown up by the Russian army on the night of 11 November after the COMPLETION of troop withdrawal. Yes it’s no news that Russian soldiers don withdraw from KHC, which means they lost 40% control of the Oblast, however they still control 60%. The way some of una Dey wannk on every available thread like say the khokols don retake all their former territories is nauseating, na me first report am, it enter frontpage sef, no emotion attached, I’m just doing my thing while I’m catching up with history. War isn’t 1+1, setbacks are part of the game, they could have choose to defend the city with the last Russian soldier, but they choose to run, which is humiliating but not the end of the war or world, they still control larger percentage of former Ukrainian territories and they still have upper hands-OP. PS: una see say I no abuse anyone on this thread, if you wanna contribute, reciprocate the same energy, any form of abuse or insult directed at me or anyone will be reported to the MODS asap. The 4th images highlighted those former Ukraine regions, currently under Russia, the deeper ones shows the territories that are fully under Russia, weda dem Dey fight dia or not doesn’t matter, while the slightly light one that’s Kherson City wey dem just run from… the map was from CNN, if na RT una fit call am propaganda.
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by general111(m): 8:46am On Nov 12, 2022 |
In modern times, no country is a push over in warefare. War should be avoided in modern times 2 Likes |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by lhordspy: 8:50am On Nov 12, 2022 |
It is a trap. I repeat it is a fvcking trap. The Ukrainian army ought to know this. Russia is planning on shelling the 40% part of Kherson into a dead city. Same tactics was used in Syria. Ukranian army moving it men into the region quickly, all for media clout is biggest mistake i have seen. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Kelvin3476: 8:53am On Nov 12, 2022 |
Same that happened in KHARKIV.
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 8:55am On Nov 12, 2022 |
[quote author=general111 post=118324244]In modern times, no country is a push over in warfare. War should be avoided in modern times[/quote]Ukraine has been defeated long time ago, now Russia is fight NATO in Ukraine, it’s a PROXY war. I have no problems with their support, no one has monopoly over war. The war could have been avoided if Kiev don honor the “Minsk Agreement”, but NO… just google Donbass war and see for yourself, the war was inevitable |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 8:58am On Nov 12, 2022 |
lhordspy:Trap or not, they can’t cross the Dnipro river regardless, na suicide, I just pray make dem strike into Crimea from there, so the war can quickly escalate. I love escalation, make everyone’s doubt clear at once. |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by lhordspy: 9:10am On Nov 12, 2022 |
Teaser4: Another angle to it. Russia all this while has been looking for the war to escalate. They want to annihilate ukraine in the most brutal way but also trying to avoid criticising from the media. They may deliberately sabotage their facility in crimea and blame it on ukraine. Then the flood-gate of hell will be open on them. I just pity the army being move into Kherson at the moment. Those guys are gone. 1 Like |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by ShoeWorld2(m): 9:20am On Nov 12, 2022 |
Teaser4:Russia won't escalate more than they're doing now. Ukrainians have been shelling belgrood and other Russian cities close to their boundary and nothing happens. They're even targeting crimea when the war started with their tochka ballistic missile that have 120km range. Russia has disgracefully lost the only regional capital under them same way they were disgraced in Kharkiv. To even shock Russia supporters, nothing will happen to Ukraine in Kherson because Russia soldiers left the city blowing up bridges, so I don't know how they will come back to that city again. I dey sell sneakers ![]() 1 Like |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 9:41am On Nov 12, 2022 |
ShoeWorld2:Youre right about Kherson city, I don’t think they are coming back, dem go just defend the 60% they have left… What I mean by escalation, make dem strike inside Crimea territory, the last time dey blow up the bridge you know what happened afterwards…. I dont know what happened with Belgrod maybe the place no dey Putin’s redline, na my opinion tho. You know Crimea is within HIMARS range now, so I’d like them to escalate first, I’ll be looking forward to that. I love escalations. I no fit buy anything from you bro, I don’t live in Nigeria. You should open a thread for that. The map is still looks beautiful regardless sha
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 9:44am On Nov 12, 2022 |
lhordspy:now you get my points bro, now that HIMARS don Dey range of Crimea, make dem send missiles… I like tha kind of escalation and hopefully e go happen. The war is dragging too long, make everywhere burst make dem fight proper jare. I trust Zelenski will never give em go ahead to strike Crimea, dem still never fully recover from ordinary Bridge wey dem partially blew… Let’s see how things go unfold sha…. |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Hotice085: 9:59am On Nov 12, 2022 |
All these POOtin asslickers are still talking about Ukraine not minding the domestic damage this is doing to POOtin Continue analysing nonsense while POOtin is now avoiding media shows in Russia, even his media goons in state TV don de question the calamities since the day abandoned Kiev Now you guys are daring Zenlenskys to attack Crimea, una mumu no be small what do you think this war is all about? Crimea is the goal and stop running your mouth we don't tire for una mouth since day 1 1 Like |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 10:55am On Nov 12, 2022 |
Nairaland is free to use, create your own thread and analyze sensible situations, and let’s enjoy our senseless in peace. Nah CNN Dey analyze the situation on ground, RT or TASS Regardless, the map still looks beautiful
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 10:56am On Nov 12, 2022 |
Hotice085:mynd44 Mukina2 Seun Lalasticala rule 2 |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Simeonjoe1: 10:58am On Nov 12, 2022 |
Teaser4: Escalation with what? Except nuclear weapon and mass military conscription Russia don't have any super advantages now, they've exploited their advantages. |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 11:02am On Nov 12, 2022 |
Simeonjoe1:with the occupation of Kherson city, Crimea now within HIMARS range. na that escalation i dey talk about… The last time Ukraine bombed the Crimea bridge, you know what happened? And it’s still happening sef.. make I attach images hold on How many times dem wan tell una say nuclear deterrence na for NATO not Ukraine but there something else , it’s already spreading among western media, they fear Putin may use it… Goan read https://www thetimes. co uk/article/putin-goldeneye-weapon-missile-strike-n999900cg I hope you know, that’s two different images below.
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by ShoeWorld2(m): 12:18pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Teaser4:Ukraine always shell Belgrod, Kupsyank and then Crimea(when they have tochka ballastic missiles) what happened when they blow kerch Bridge is shocked attack and will still happen once in a while during the course of this war but cannot be sustained if its to be every day something. Missile production in Russia is all time low/slow due to sanctions not due to money because Russia na big fish. Even Russians know that Ukraine is likely to attack Crimea to cut their rail/land route(kerch bridge) and further undermine their offensive capabilities that's why they're digging multiple defensive lines in Crimea. Russia and the Western countries are tired of this war but Ukrainians are far from being tired. Their new drone have range of 1000km and can reach Moscow. The drone will enter service next year and it will be clear to all that Russia cannot win this war if they don't make use of nuke. OK... I thought you dey stay for Nigeria ![]() |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 12:33pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
ShoeWorld2:nah only the bolded I have problem with. It’s pure western propaganda and I have proof to back that up, cos according to western media Moscow has always being running out of missiles You and I know that Ukraine will never strike Moscow, cos not only Kyiv go suffer that consequences, e go escalate to world war 3. Washington carefully select the kind of weapons they send to Ukraine, dem no fit send longer range weapons to em. Even dem scold Zelensky for the crimea bridge bombing, Make we Dey observe how things go unfold, I’m looking forward to winter. I want you to note something, if russia want to destroy Ukraine even without nuclear ragas, they can do that… I hope that’s not up for debate, they display that during the attack on their energy infrastructures, even Zelenski shouted dem want to wipe us out…. |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by ken6488(m): 1:20pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Nova Kakhovka dam Destroyed 1 Like |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Toktee(m): 1:37pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
lhordspy:they do not move men in the city it's on a single unit that comprises Ukraine secret police that have moved in others are lying in wait the outskirts of kharson. Let them shell kharson and see what HIMARS will do to them. |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by seunny4lif(m): 1:47pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Russia can bomb the hell out of the Kherson dam oooh, which will be a massive disaster for everyone including even eastern part of Kherson. Anyway Netherlands, have removed sanctions of Russia wheat, the Netherlands government seized days after Netherlands gave around 100 Netherlands companies permission to expand business in Russia. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by ShoeWorld2(m): 1:55pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Teaser4:What I told you is not western propaganda but a verifiable fact that you can verify. No defense industry is independent and you must buy one component or the other from other defense industries within or outside your country. when last did you see Orlan-10 drone even in your trusted Intel Slava G or War Gonzo telegram page? Unlike the time when Russia annexed Crimea and was sanctioned by EU but some defense industries in France and Germany even USA are secretly doing business with them. This time all eyes are open on various defense industries to make sure that there won't be lapses. Russia know wetin dem dey see wey push dem to be buying drones from Iran. Some of the captured equipment are those meant for victory day parade but I do not need to tell you why they end up in war front. They're even using T-62m now on many front lines I will still say that without Nuke Russia won't win this or fulfill their initial objectives. 1 Like |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Parachoko: 1:58pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Lol |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Parachoko: 2:09pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Teaser4:See wetin Russia have been reduce to ![]() Well, let's see how this move go turn out The war is still on |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by HornyTave: 2:20pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Hotice085: Ukraine has recaptured 10,000km out of 120,000km and you call it a success? after 9 months omo 1 Like |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 2:23pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
ShoeWorld2:I was trying to attach this earlier Goan read https://www thetimes. co uk/article/putin-goldeneye-weapon-missile-strike-n999900cg. Russia won’t use nuke on Kiev, there are other deadly weapons, wey dem fit employ. The western media don Dey spread this wan now..: I repeat once again anything about Russian running out of missiles is nothing but western propaganda, cos I have verifiable proof to back that up. Make we Dey see how things dey go sha… do not miss my threads… Stay safe bro
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
HornyTave:you get time bro, just ignore Na the current map be this
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Hotice085: 3:16pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
HornyTave: So una de keep stats? Oga can you tell me how you arrived at that size because according to one Mr Geopolitikus of a guy called Goddson, the four regions annexed by Ukraine are bigger than Nigeria or half the size of Nigeria Plz kindly tell us the map you used in coming to the above conclusions? Map of the west or Russian map? I de wait |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 3:41pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Nah the Kherson city be that on the western map from CNN
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by joyandfaith: 3:57pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
general111: Exactly!! |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 4:12pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
ShoeWorld2:i no like Zelenski but I don’t wish Ukraine get a nuke, that will be a disaster, I recently moved permanently to a western country I don’t wanna live in fear, say one day nuke fit end my life. Back to Russia running out missiles I still stand my ground say na propaganda sey… make we dead the matter… Russia won’t nuke Kiev dem fit use this wan, shey you don check the link I sent to you, if you can read the whole news, atleast read the headlines or google search another reliable source, nuclear deterrent na for nato
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Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by ShoeWorld2(m): 4:21pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Teaser4:Whatever wonderful weapon Russia is going to use are limited and cannot decide the fate of this war. Russians cruise and ballastic missiles are limited if not, they would have rain every inch of Ukraine occupied Kherson, Bahkmut and Kharkiv because Ukraine don't have much AD systems protecting these places. This was how I told one guy that Russia will withdraw from snake island because they don't have answers to the shellings from Ukraine made Bohdana SPG, the guy no believe because Intel Slave G says otherwise. I'm deeply rooted in this war and I will tell you fact from fiction. 1 Like |
Re: What Russia’s Kherson Withdrawal Means For The War-CNN by Teaser4(m): 4:28pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
ShoeWorld2:TBh, I respect your insights no cap, where have you been cos nah those wey Dey throw insults we’ve been dealing with here for a very long time, user wey Dey act like say dem be Ukrainians. However, I won’t change my opinion about the running of missiles.. I Dey feel you bro. Nah like this we suppose Dey rob minds, cos the last time I check my parents are sef back home cos no be naija Dey fight war. If I see something wey change my mind, about the subject I go mention you. This is educational for me, nothing personal no sentiment but I’m pro pootin ![]() ![]() |
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