After the departure of Jesus (peace be upon him) from this world, a bright light from heaven that called himself Jesus of Nazareth flashed around a man called Paul (whose original name was Saul) on his way to Damascus;


"About noon as I came near Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around me. I fell to the ground and heard a voice say to me, ‘Saul! Saul! Why do you persecute me?’ Who are you, Lord?’ I asked. “ ‘I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,’ he replied. My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me (Acts 22:6-9)"



But did Paul (Saul) truly meet the original Jesus Christ (pbuh) on his way to Damascus ?


Let's consider the following points of evidence ;

1ST POINT OF EVIDENCE

Before Jesus (pbuh) left the surface of the earth, he forewarned the original apostles as follows:


"Take heed that no one deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying; I am the Christ; and shall deceive many (Matthew 24:4-5)…


“Then if anyone says here is Christ or there, do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time. So if anyone tells you; Christ is out in the wilderness, do not go out; or Christ is in the inner rooms, do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, then the vultures will gather (Matthew 24:23-28)"


[Please take note of how the phrase "if anyone (which means without exception)" is being used repeatedly by Jesus in the verses above.]


“Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them Luke 21:8-9).


Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many (Mark 13:5-6)


In all the verses above, the disciples are commanded by Jesus(pbuh) not to believe in any account of a person who claim to have seen Jesus in a private manner prior to his universally-visible appearance to all. Jesus(pbuh) was telling us that his returning to earth again from heaven will be clear and unmistakable to everyone. That is to say, Jesus will be visible to every eye from every corner of the world in the same way that lightning that comes from the east is visible to those in the West . The people would gather to see Jesus coming from the heaven just like vultures gather over the carcass. Hence, any private appearances of Jesus to anyone or to only a few set of people before this universally public appearance should be ignored and discarded


Therefore, if Jesus’ private appearance to Paul in form of “a bright light from heaven" on his way to Damascus would be an exception to this great warning of not believing in private appearances of Christ, then Jesus (pbuh)should have foretold this exceptional event to the original apostles before he ascended to heaven. However, Jesus (pbuh) did not foretell anything like such.


2ND POINT OF EVIDENCE

Instead of foretelling to the original apostles that he would privately appear to someone like Paul in form of a bright light from heaven” before his universally-visible appearance to all, Jesus only informed them as follows;


"And he said unto them, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven (Luke10:18 KJV)".


That is to say, Jesus saw Satan in a form of a lightening falling from heaven. This is the appearance usually taken by Satan and this is the main reason why he was called Lucifer (which means light-bearer or morning star or shining one ) in Isaiah 14:12 KJV

[Lucifer is a combination of [lūx (light) + ferō (bear, carry) in Latin language]


But is it really reasonable to believe that it was Satan, and not Jesus, that revealed himself to Paul in form of lightning from heaven? Yes, it is not only reasonable but also provable by combining together the three strong facts below ;


1. Jesus has already forewarned the original apostles not to believe in any account of a person proclaiming private appearance of Christ, using repeatedly the phrase if anyone.... (which means without exception -see Matthew 24:23-28 quoted above)



2. If Jesus really foretold that he beheld Satan in a form of lightning fall from heaven (Luke 10:18 KJV), then Jesus would never emulate Satan by appearing in the same form to any chosen apostle. Yet it was the same lightning (i:e bright light) from heaven that revealed himself to Paul on his road to Damascus (see Acts 22:6-9 quoted above).



3. Matthew 24:36 clearly shows that Jesus does not know the actual day which general resurrection will take place and again Mark 11:12-14 clearly revealed that Jesus did not know that a distant fig tree had no fruits (until he reached the tree) which all implies that Jesus cannot be God who always has a perfect knowledge about all things.

Yet contrary to this basic fact, Paul indirectly proclaimed that Jesus is God by stating that all the fullness of God ( i:e the whole of divine nature) dwell in the body of Jesus Christ (Colossians 1:19, 2:9).

Hence stylishly, Paul caused the christians to commit the sin of idolatry by giving them the opportunity to take Jesus (who is only a man-- Acts 2:22) as a divine God.



See how all the evidence explained above support the fact that the bright light that revealed himself to Paul on his way to Damascus was not Jesus Christ but Satan in disguise - a ravening wolf that came in sheep's clothing (Matthew 7:15).


But despite this satanic delusion experienced by Paul, almost half of the books (13 out of 27) found in the New Testament were written by him alone.


Look at the foundation upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected !


This is the top secret that is clearly depicted in the Bible but which is still unknown to many Christians

No need to say “peace be upon him” after mentioning Lord Jesus. He is Peace Himself.
He is not like Mohammed, Moses, who were only humans

FreeIgboho:
No need to say “peace be upon him” after mentioning Lord Jesus. He is Peace Himself.
He is not like Mohammed, Moses, who were only humans

Please make your comment on the topic of the post. Don't distract our attention. Thanks

Abdulgaffar22:


Please make your comment on the topic of the post. Don't distract our attention. Thanks

You are the one who pretentiously opened your topic with a “peace be upon him” on Lord Jesus, knowing fully well we Christians don’t do that. Thanks

FreeIgboho:
No need to say “peace be upon him” after mentioning Lord Jesus. He is Peace Himself.
He is not like Mohammed, Moses, who were only humans

In John 20:21 says Jesus said “Peace be with you"...in his statement.

Where did Jesus call himself peace in the Bible?

And you lied that Jesus is not like Moses!

The LORD told Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

So who is the Prophet that is like Moses?

Muhammad right?

Righteousness2:
My Brother , Leave all these all epistles and documentary. They have Nothing to do for your life.

What you , I and all of Humanity need to know is that
JESUS CHRIST is the Savior of the World.
Only through JESUS CHRIST we will be Saved and make Eternal life.
Any other grammar or foundation is false.

If Eternal life in Heaven matters to you, You Must Belive on JESUS Christ as Your Lord and Savior.

You must repent from your Sins , confess them and Surrender to the Lordship of JESUS Christ.

My Brother, outside this, if you like Fast 365 days,
If you like be righteous and be nice and all that, it is a waste.

Any Righteousness not built on JESUS Christ is a Waste !

Make we leave epistle and follow falsehood! A book in which Paul the impostor wrote about 14 Books!
Jesus never preached Trinity nor did he call himself God!

Righteousness2:
My Brother , Leave all these all epistles and documentary. They have Nothing to do for your life.

What you , I and all of Humanity need to know is that
JESUS CHRIST is the Savior of the World.
Only through JESUS CHRIST we will be Saved and make Eternal life.
Any other grammar or foundation is false.

If Eternal life in Heaven matters to you, You Must Belive on JESUS Christ as Your Lord and Savior.

You must repent from your Sins , confess them and Surrender to the Lordship of JESUS Christ.

My Brother, outside this, if you like Fast 365 days,
If you like be righteous and be nice and all that, it is a waste.

Any Righteousness not built on JESUS Christ is a Waste !

Actually, I don't want to digress from the topic of discussion. But since you are making a baseless claim, please juxtapose what you have written up there with Jesus statement ;

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24"

Abdulgaffar22:

See how all the evidence explained above support the fact that the bright light that revealed himself to Paul on his way to Damascus was not Jesus Christ but Satan in disguise - a ravening wolf that came in sheep's clothing (Matthew 7:15).


But despite this satanic delusion experienced by Paul, almost half of the books (13 out of 27) found in the New Testament were written by him alone.


Look at the foundation upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected !


This is the top secret that is clearly depicted in the Bible but which is still unknown to many Christians LacyPantSniffer, AntiChristian, fortunez1, Lukuluku69

Funny guy. Not your fault though, just ignorance

1) But for Paul Christianity would not have survived and spread. Tell us what Satan has to gain by having Christianity survive and thrive

2) Lord Jesus is a living, transforming Spirit not a dead man you keep wishing peace upon. St.Paul did not just meet him once, He was active in Paul’s life - directing him, protecting him and working miracles through him!

Abdulgaffar22:
After the departure of Jesus (peace be upon him) from this world, a bright light from heaven that called himself Jesus of Nazareth flashed around a man called Paul (whose original name was Saul) on his way to Damascus;


"About noon as I came near Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around me. I fell to the ground and heard a voice say to me, ‘Saul! Saul! Why do you persecute me?’ Who are you, Lord?’ I asked. “ ‘I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,’ he replied. My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me (Acts 22:6-9)"



But did Paul (Saul) truly meet the original Jesus Christ (pbuh) on his way to Damascus ?


Let's consider the following points of evidence ;

1ST POINT OF EVIDENCE

Before Jesus (pbuh) left the surface of the earth, he forewarned the original apostles as follows:


"Take heed that no one deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying; I am the Christ; and shall deceive many (Matthew 24:4-5)…


“Then if anyone says here is Christ or there, do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time. So if anyone tells you; Christ is out in the wilderness, do not go out; or Christ is in the inner rooms, do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, then the vultures will gather (Matthew 24:23-28)"


[Please take note of how the phrase "if anyone (which means without exception)" is being used repeatedly by Jesus in the verses above.]


“Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them Luke 21:8-9).


Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many (Mark 13:5-6)


In all the verses above, the disciples are commanded by Jesus(pbuh) not to believe in any account of a person who claim to have seen Jesus in a private manner prior to his universally-visible appearance to all. Jesus(pbuh) was telling us that his returning to earth again from heaven will be clear and unmistakable to everyone. That is to say, Jesus will be visible to every eye from every corner of the world in the same way that lightning that comes from the east is visible to those in the West . The people would gather to see Jesus coming from the heaven just like vultures gather over the carcass. Hence, any private appearances of Jesus to anyone or to only a few set of people before this universally public appearance should be ignored and discarded


Therefore, if Jesus’ private appearance to Paul in form of “a bright light from heaven" on his way to Damascus would be an exception to this great warning of not believing in private appearances of Christ, then Jesus (pbuh)should have foretold this exceptional event to the original apostles before he ascended to heaven. However, Jesus (pbuh) did not foretell anything like such.


2ND POINT OF EVIDENCE

Instead of foretelling to the original apostles that he would privately appear to someone like Paul in form of a bright light from heaven” before his universally-visible appearance to all, Jesus only informed them as follows;


"And he said unto them, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven (Luke10:18 KJV)".


That is to say, Jesus saw Satan in a form of a lightening falling from heaven. This is the appearance usually taken by Satan and this is the main reason why he was called Lucifer (which means light-bearer or morning star or shining one ) in Isaiah 14:12 KJV

[Lucifer is a combination of [lūx (light) + ferō (bear, carry) in Latin language]


But is it really reasonable to believe that it was Satan, and not Jesus, that revealed himself to Paul in form of lightning from heaven? Yes, it is not only reasonable but also provable by combining together the three strong facts below ;


1. Jesus has already forewarned the original apostles not to believe in any account of a person proclaiming private appearance of Christ, using repeatedly the phrase if anyone.... (which means without exception -see Matthew 24:23-28 quoted above)



2. If Jesus really foretold that he beheld Satan in a form of lightning fall from heaven (Luke 10:18 KJV), then Jesus would never emulate Satan by appearing in the same form to any chosen apostle. Yet it was the same lightning (i:e bright light) from heaven that revealed himself to Paul on his road to Damascus (see Acts 22:6-9 quoted above).



3. Matthew 24:36 clearly shows that Jesus does not know the actual day which general resurrection will take place and again Mark 11:12-14 clearly revealed that Jesus did not know that a distant fig tree had no fruits (until he reached the tree) which all implies that Jesus cannot be God who always has a perfect knowledge about all things.

Yet contrary to this basic fact, Paul indirectly proclaimed that Jesus is God by stating that all the fullness of God ( i:e the whole of divine nature) dwell in the body of Jesus Christ (Colossians 1:19, 2:9).

Hence stylishly, Paul caused the christians to commit the sin of idolatry by giving them the opportunity to take Jesus (who is only a man-- Acts 2:22) as a divine God.



See how all the evidence explained above support the fact that the bright light that revealed himself to Paul on his way to Damascus was not Jesus Christ but Satan in disguise - a ravening wolf that came in sheep's clothing (Matthew 7:15).


But despite this satanic delusion experienced by Paul, almost half of the books (13 out of 27) found in the New Testament were written by him alone.


Look at the foundation upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected !


This is the top secret that is clearly depicted in the Bible but which is still unknown to many Christians

we need Bible scholars to jump in here for a constructive response to this. Omo I do be glad if this goes well

Abdulgaffar22:
After the departure of Jesus (peace be upon him) from this world, a bright light from heaven that called himself Jesus of Nazareth flashed around a man called Paul (whose original name was Saul) on his way to Damascus;


"About noon as I came near Damascus, suddenly a bright light from heaven flashed around me. I fell to the ground and heard a voice say to me, ‘Saul! Saul! Why do you persecute me?’ Who are you, Lord?’ I asked. “ ‘I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom you are persecuting,’ he replied. My companions saw the light, but they did not understand the voice of him who was speaking to me (Acts 22:6-9)"



But did Paul (Saul) truly meet the original Jesus Christ (pbuh) on his way to Damascus ?


Let's consider the following points of evidence ;

1ST POINT OF EVIDENCE

Before Jesus (pbuh) left the surface of the earth, he forewarned the original apostles as follows:


"Take heed that no one deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying; I am the Christ; and shall deceive many (Matthew 24:4-5)…


“Then if anyone says here is Christ or there, do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time. So if anyone tells you; Christ is out in the wilderness, do not go out; or Christ is in the inner rooms, do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the son of Man. Wherever there is a carcass, then the vultures will gather (Matthew 24:23-28)"


[Please take note of how the phrase "if anyone (which means without exception)" is being used repeatedly by Jesus in the verses above.]


“Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The time is near.’ Do not follow them Luke 21:8-9).


Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many (Mark 13:5-6)


In all the verses above, the disciples are commanded by Jesus(pbuh) not to believe in any account of a person who claim to have seen Jesus in a private manner prior to his universally-visible appearance to all. Jesus(pbuh) was telling us that his returning to earth again from heaven will be clear and unmistakable to everyone. That is to say, Jesus will be visible to every eye from every corner of the world in the same way that lightning that comes from the east is visible to those in the West . The people would gather to see Jesus coming from the heaven just like vultures gather over the carcass. Hence, any private appearances of Jesus to anyone or to only a few set of people before this universally public appearance should be ignored and discarded


Therefore, if Jesus’ private appearance to Paul in form of “a bright light from heaven" on his way to Damascus would be an exception to this great warning of not believing in private appearances of Christ, then Jesus (pbuh)should have foretold this exceptional event to the original apostles before he ascended to heaven. However, Jesus (pbuh) did not foretell anything like such.


2ND POINT OF EVIDENCE

Instead of foretelling to the original apostles that he would privately appear to someone like Paul in form of a bright light from heaven” before his universally-visible appearance to all, Jesus only informed them as follows;


"And he said unto them, “I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven (Luke10:18 KJV)".


That is to say, Jesus saw Satan in a form of a lightening falling from heaven. This is the appearance usually taken by Satan and this is the main reason why he was called Lucifer (which means light-bearer or morning star or shining one ) in Isaiah 14:12 KJV

[Lucifer is a combination of [lūx (light) + ferō (bear, carry) in Latin language]


But is it really reasonable to believe that it was Satan, and not Jesus, that revealed himself to Paul in form of lightning from heaven? Yes, it is not only reasonable but also provable by combining together the three strong facts below ;


1. Jesus has already forewarned the original apostles not to believe in any account of a person proclaiming private appearance of Christ, using repeatedly the phrase if anyone.... (which means without exception -see Matthew 24:23-28 quoted above)



2. If Jesus really foretold that he beheld Satan in a form of lightning fall from heaven (Luke 10:18 KJV), then Jesus would never emulate Satan by appearing in the same form to any chosen apostle. Yet it was the same lightning (i:e bright light) from heaven that revealed himself to Paul on his road to Damascus (see Acts 22:6-9 quoted above).



3. Matthew 24:36 clearly shows that Jesus does not know the actual day which general resurrection will take place and again Mark 11:12-14 clearly revealed that Jesus did not know that a distant fig tree had no fruits (until he reached the tree) which all implies that Jesus cannot be God who always has a perfect knowledge about all things.

Yet contrary to this basic fact, Paul indirectly proclaimed that Jesus is God by stating that all the fullness of God ( i:e the whole of divine nature) dwell in the body of Jesus Christ (Colossians 1:19, 2:9).

Hence stylishly, Paul caused the christians to commit the sin of idolatry by giving them the opportunity to take Jesus (who is only a man-- Acts 2:22) as a divine God.



See how all the evidence explained above support the fact that the bright light that revealed himself to Paul on his way to Damascus was not Jesus Christ but Satan in disguise - a ravening wolf that came in sheep's clothing (Matthew 7:15).


But despite this satanic delusion experienced by Paul, almost half of the books (13 out of 27) found in the New Testament were written by him alone.


Look at the foundation upon which the edifice of Christianity is erected !


This is the top secret that is clearly depicted in the Bible but which is still unknown to many Christians

Thank you Op.

Can you imagine? Paul the Babbler who never saw nor met Jesus alive is believed more than the Eleven who trekked the length and breath of Judea and Samaria with the Nazarene?

According to the Bible, he never receive the "holy spirit" at the Pentecost, he never appeal to the words of Jesus, and at one point the Eleven disciples were "afraid" of him until a certain Barnabas intervened before he was accepted.

He was the First to teach that Jesus is the "Son of God" a believe no other disciples preached, he did away with the Eternal Laws of God when he counted it for naught and replaced it with the blood of Jesus poo.

He himself said he LIED to abound the Glory of God and he marvel that his LIES gained prominence among the Gentiles and he wondered why the they ( the disciples) still call him a LIAR!

Even his Accounts with the Damascus Trip itself is riddled with LIES. Op read them again. At one point it says, his mission will be given to him when he gets to Damascus and at another it was given to him there and then!

FreeIgboho:


Funn guy. Not your fault though, just ignorance

1) But for Paul Christianity would not have survived and spread. Tell us what Satan has to gain by having Christianity survive and thrive

2) Lord Jesus is a living, transforming Spirit not a dead man you keep wishing peace upon. St.Paul did not just meet him once, He was active in Paul’s life - directing him, protecting him and working miracles through him!

You mean Jesus was directing, protecting and active on Paul's Life yet left the Eleven Disciples he personally trained. Those that dined with him, trekked with him for three years?

It is only in Christianity that the word of someone who never met Jesus took prominence than those who he handpicked himself.

Remember he gave the Keys to Heaven to one of the Eleven oo. Are you saying non of the Eleven deserves at least one or two visits from Jesus when he left them?

AntiChristian:


In John 20:21 says Jesus said “Peace be with you"...in his statement.

Where did Jesus call himself peace in the Bible?

And you lied that Jesus is not like Moses!

The LORD told Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

So who is the Prophet that is like Moses?

Muhammad right?

See screenshot below.
One thing we are 100% sure of:
Lord Jesus was not like Moses AT ALL.

Moses was a great human, leader of a a whole nation, very wealthy, renowned warrior, killer, died dignified and was given state funeral

Lord Jesus was a carpenter, had only 12 apostles, was not rich at all, nor had he any connections, never killed anybody, and ultimately was crucified - regarded a shameful death

Lukuluku69:


You mean Jesus was directing, protecting and active on Paul's Life yet left the Eleven Disciples he personally trained. Those that dined with him, trekked with him for three years?

It is only in Christianity that the word of someone who never met Jesus took prominence than those who he handpicked himself.

Remember he gave the Keys to Heaven to one of the Eleven oo. Are you saying non of the Eleven deserves at least one or two visits from Jesus when he left them? LacyPantSniffer, AntiChristian, fortunez1, Lukuluku69

Funny guy again.
Of course He was also active in all the apostles and disciples lives. Was it Paul that write: “... and the word was God” ? Was it Paul that wrote Revelations.
Familiarity breeds contempt. Same reason Lord Jesus did not perform many miracles in his hometown. Same reason his brothers said He was mad. Paul was chosen precisely because he lacked familiarity

Make una leave all this argument. Live a holy and peaceful life.

MMempire:
Make una leave all this argument. Live a holy and peaceful life.

It is necessary or this Muslim guy will not only stay deluded himself, but also deceive and mislead some Christians with deceptive reasoning

Abdulgaffar22:

Actually, I don't want to digress from the topic of discussion. But since you are making a baseless claim, please juxtapose what you have written up there with Jesus statement ;
"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24"

Whenever i come across threads like this i can only laugh at the misinformation of those who aren't knowledgeable yet claiming they're disciples of the most wonderful counselor of all time: Jesus of Nazareth! Isaiah 9:6

Well it's true that Jesus was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and it's the lost sheep of the house of Israel that are expected to go and declare what God's only begotten Son taught them to the nation.
That's why Jesus chose apostle Paul (a Jew) vast in knowledge of different cultures as an elite to take Christianity to other nations. Act 9:15

So i will break it down as one of the Witnesses of Jesus of Nazareth! Act 1:8

The promise of a Messiah was to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so only their descendants will have a direct access to the Christ {Isaiah 9:6} while all other nations must hold onto what the Jews got from the Christ {Zechariah 8:23} that's why Jesus sent his disciples to go only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} the Jews are the first in God's plan to be blessed with the presence of the Christ so when a Phoenician woman wanted to tap from that blessing (supernatural gifts) Jesus openly told her that presently it's only for the Israelites {Matthew 15:24} but then believing Jews will have to take this blessings to other nations, that's why Jesus never had a direct dealing with people of other nations when choosing his Apostles Jesus chose only JEWS!

Regarding apostle Paul Jesus handed over the conversion of people from other nations to him {Act 9:15} so everything Paul taught about Jesus of Nazareth is authentic and could be firmly established in what the prophets wrote before Jesus!

FreeIgboho:


It is necessary or this Muslim guy will not only stay deluded himself, but also deceive and mislead some Christians with deceptive reasoning

I get you. Muslims do not tolerate people talking wrongfully about their faith. They will say you're blasphemous and will call out your head on a stake. You find most of them being either a fanatic or a radical Muslim.

Abdulgaffar22:


Actually, I don't want to digress from the topic of discussion. But since you are making a baseless claim, please juxtapose what you have written up there with Jesus statement ;

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24"

This is what you get by selectively quoting the Bible. It is to be taken as a whole.
He is the Son of God who takes away the sin of the WORLD!
He even gave a parable about the feast being opened up to everyone because the primary intended didn’t show up

MaxInDHouse:


Whenever i come across threads like this i can only laugh at the misinformation of those who aren't knowledgeable yet claiming they're disciples of the most wonderful counselor of all time: Jesus of Nazareth! Isaiah 9:6

Well it's true that Jesus was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and it's the lost sheep of the house of Israel that are expected to go and declare what God's only begotten Son taught them to the nation.
That's why Jesus chose apostle Paul (a Jew) vast in knowledge of different cultures as an elite to take Christianity to other nations. Act 9:15

So i will break it down as one of the Witnesses of Jesus of Nazareth! Act 1:8

The promise of a Messiah was to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob so only their descendants will have a direct access to the Christ {Isaiah 9:6} while all other nations must hold onto what the Jews got from the Christ {Zechariah 8:23} that's why Jesus sent his disciples to go only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} the Jews are the first in God's plan to be blessed with the presence of the Christ so when a Phoenician woman wanted to tap from that blessing (supernatural gifts) Jesus openly told her that presently it's only for the Israelites {Matthew 15:24} but then believing Jews will have to take this blessings to other nations, that's why Jesus never had a direct dealing with people of other nations when choosing his Apostles Jesus chose only JEWS!

Regarding apostle Paul Jesus handed over the conversion of people from other nations to him {Act 9:15} so everything Paul taught about Jesus of Nazareth is authentic and could be firmly established in what the prophets wrote before Jesus!

Look at the bolded statement above, you have stylishly changed the word of Jesus. Jesus did not tell the woman that "his message is presently meant for the Israelites and later for the Gentiles"

Jesus simply said " I was sent only to the Israelites".

If Jesus' mission is for the Jews first and later to the Gentiles, then he would have simply told the woman that "it is not yet time for the Gentiles". But Jesus didn't say such statement.

MaxInDHouse:


Regarding apostle Paul Jesus handed over the conversion of people from other nations to him {Act 9:15} so everything Paul taught about Jesus of Nazareth is authentic and could be firmly established in what the prophets wrote before Jesus!

So you believe that Jesus can still privately appear to someone like Paul after commanding the disciples to disbelieve in such private appearances ( Matthew 24:23-28)?
Again, you believe that Jesus can emulate Satan by appearing in the same form of lightning usually taken by Satan (Luke 10:18, Isaiah 14:12) ?

Abdulgaffar22:

Look at the bolded statement above, you have stylishly changed the word of Jesus. Jesus did not tell the woman that "his message is presently meant for the Israelites and later for the Gentiles"
Jesus simply said " I was sent only to the Israelites".
If Jesus' mission is for the Jews first and later to the Gentiles, then he would have simply told the woman that "it is not yet time for the Gentiles". But Jesus didn't say such statement.

“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life" John 3:16

The above statement came from the same man that's why the Phoenician woman told him by faith saying:

“Yes, Lord, but really the little dogs do eat of the crumbs falling from the table of their masters.” Matthew 15:27

Because this woman is conversant with what the prophet Zechariah said {Zechariah 8:23} so even if Jesus didn't come for none Israelites the woman knew that after the Israelites has gotten enough blessings from the Messiah it will later fall for other nations who are like little dogs to pick for themselves.
So Jesus realized that this woman truly knows the scriptures so he has no other option than to extend the blessings to her for the faith she had.
Note that the same thing happened when a Roman general needed the same blessing:

“Sir, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof, but just say the word and my servant will be healed" Matthew 8:8

Why did the soldier utter such word?
Well he knew that the Messiah (Christ) had no direct dealing with none Jews.

So Jesus' audience perfectly knew that the Messiah had no direct dealing with none Jews!

Abdulgaffar22:

So you believe that Jesus can still privately appear to someone like Paul after commanding the disciples to disbelieve in such private appearances ( Matthew 24:23-28)?
Again, you believe that Jesus can emulate Satan by appearing in the same form of lightning usually taken by Satan (Luke 10:18, Isaiah 14:12) ?

Jesus and Satan are from the same person: GOD
So both of them can appear exactly the same way but it's the motive that matters not their appearance.
For your information all angelic sons of God (including Satan) are referred to as morning Stars {Job 38:7} while Jesus called himself the bright morning Star {Revelations 22:16} so they can appear exactly the same way only their motive differs!

@ Abdulgaffar
I'm sorry to have disrupted your challenge to the churchgoers because i'm not one of them, i am one of Jehovah's Witnesses though we are not on the same page with these guys.

So you can continue your challenge with them if you have no further questions for me!

FreeIgboho:


Funny guy again.
Of course He was also active in all the apostles and disciples lives. Was it Paul that write: “... and the word was God” ? Was it Paul that wrote Revelations.
Familiarity breeds contempt. Same reason Lord Jesus did not perform many miracles in his hometown. Same reason his brothers said He was mad. Paul was chosen precisely because he lacked familiarity

If you want to know more about who wrote " and the word was God" Google Philo of Alexandria and read his works. Whoever put that in the New Testament cribbed it from the works of Philo of Alexandria.

So, familiarity breeds in contempt? Even in the case of Holy Spirit? Lol. The things you Christians say sha.

See how the Muslims are shaking and panicking.

The Lord Jesus Christ, is just tormenting them with crazed madness.

Then Paul too. Damn!

Abdulgaffar22:
After the departure of Jesus (peace be ...

If no one tells you that you are mad, you can expect me to say it.

You are mad!

Why?

Because, it is high quality stupidity and madness for a mechanic to query a medicine and surgery textbook. So also is it great stupidity for a Muslim to query Paul.

fortunez1:
we need Bible scholars to jump in here for a constructive response to this. Omo I do be glad if this goes well

Do you have discussions with mad people?

Obviously, Muslims do not interact else they would have seen that whatever they say has been said before by a stupid mad Muslim earlier whom we have answered before.

Dtruthspeaker:


Do you have discussions with mad people?

Obviously, Muslims do not interact else they would have seen that whatever they say has been said before by a stupid mad Muslim earlier whom we have answered before.

You have come again with your abusive words. Instead of you to do copy and paste or give reference for the answer to those questions, your last resort is to address a fellow human like you with madness. Well I will not retaliate. Let's leave everything till the day of Judgement and we will clearly see who is really afflicted with madness

FreeIgboho:
Funn guy. Not your fault though, just ignorance
1) But for Paul Christianity would not have survived and spread. Tell us what Satan has to gain by having Christianity survive and thrive

2) Lord Jesus is a living, transforming Spirit not a dead man you keep wishing peace upon. St.Paul did not just meet him once, He was active in Paul’s life - directing him, protecting him and working miracles through him!

I am not trying to hold brief for the OP in any of this at all as it is obvious his entire writeup is selectively colored to promote his personal delusions regarding the person of Paul, but I found your questions interesting and worth responding to.

1. Paul wasn't the reason why Christianity survived. I understand that many of you have been fed by your many pastors and mogs to believe Paul is the reason for Christianity but the fact is Paul isn't at all. Jesus Christ sent His followers to all areas, even some of those places where Pau himself was, there were other first Christians as well. So, it is in ignorance that many conclude that Paul is the reason for Christianity.

Additionally, the Kingdom of God is a Kingdom in which there are two kinds of inhabitants - those who gain access through the Broad gate which leads to destruction(Hell), and those who enter into it through the Narrow gate that leads to true life(Heaven) at the end - so Satan, the one who is billed as the enemy in the Kingdom of God has a job of his own in the Kingdom of God to do, as Jesus Christ explained. He may be the enemy but he has his part to play in ensuring God's Will is accomplished in the end.

2. Unlike Jesus Christ, Paul, assuming the stories about him are true, is currently sleeping in his grave awaiting the return of Jesus Christ and judgment day. So your claim that he is a saint is not according to the teachings of Jesus Christ who instead said that all will be judged by Him at the end. So, if Paul is sleeping awaiting judgment, how then can he be deemed a saint already when God's Judgement has not been served?

Abdulgaffar22:
Actually, I don't want to digress from the topic of discussion. But since you are making a baseless claim, please juxtapose what you have written up there with Jesus statement ;

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24"

The lost sheep of Israel happen to be those scattered to Every language, every tribe, and every Nation of the earth, meaning that even the man sitting right next to you at this very moment could be one of them, so?