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Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 6:41pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
No God didn't create people to be these things but rather. Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. These things are a product of rejecting God's truth. This is a very clear description of this post modern world. They are unthankful, rejects the truth of God to embrace lies such as evolution, and other strange ideologies, rejecting God's order for families and society because they think they are wise or civilized or evolved better. In stead to worshipping and glorifying God they glorify human being, human institutions, ideologies of men, science and technology, governments,etc The result is ,God also would abandon them to do foolish things. So the foolish things that are pooping up every day is a sign of God giving up people to do it. Take note morality does not originate from humans but from God. Proverbs 1:24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; 1:25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: 1:29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 6:47pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
In the days of Noah God abandon the people of Noah days before destroying them. Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 6:55pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
The solution to this is to turn to Jesus. Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. No matter the rebellius heart, no matter the sin, God can wipe away the sin, the wickedness give a new heart. Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 6:56pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
No where in your verses said anything about Homosexuals, Transgender, Non Binary. Not to forget all the virgins your god said they should rape in the tanakh. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 7:09pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Maynman: Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 2 Likes |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 7:30pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Steep:First, you have to answer what Paul means by “For this reason…” in verse 26. What “reason?” Also, “those who practice such things deserve death” is in Verse 32, and the “such things” that deserve death are: 29. … all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; Note the conspicuous absence of any reference or allusion to homosexuality or sex in general. 3 Likes |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 8:38pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
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Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 8:41pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Steep: 31. without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful. Is it part of “unrighteousness” too? Note the conspicuous absence of any reference or allusion to homosexuality or sex in general? 2 Likes |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 9:32pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Maynman: Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Not convent/improper/unseemly. 2 Likes |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 9:41pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Steep: First, you have to answer what Paul means by “For this cause…” in verse 26. What “cause”? Read what Paul wrote in the preceeding verses, what was the “reason" and does it apply to any LGBT people today, or ever? Rom 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, Rom 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Rom 1:24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, Rom 1:25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. Paul is writing about idol worship, “images of mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things,” and the temple prostitution that existed in his culture, his society, not Gay and Lesbian people today, or ever. Not transgender people, who we are only beginning to understand there is no word in ancient Hebrew or Greek for homosexuality;. Not the variety of normal (not immoral) sexual orientation that we experience. Any sexual expression can become immoral. The porn sites are full of heterosexual sexual immorality. Leviticus says not to eat shellfish (Lev. 11:9-12), use mixed seed or fabrics (Lev. 19:19), harvest the corners of fields (Lev. 19:9), It also has something to say about not cutting your hair or your beard. In fact the bible says a lot of things most of us would find abhorrent. Also, Leviticus 1:2 says, “Tell the children of Israel . . . .” That means the whole book only applies to Jews. Note the conspicuous absence of any reference or allusion to homosexuality or sex in general? 1 Like
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Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by NNTR: 3:09am On Dec 08, 2022 |
Steep:Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc It is true that God didn't create people to be a paedophile but rather, yeah shit happens, and that's simply because of how fractured the world became after the fall from grace to grass It is the same the God that created Judah, created Tamar, created Rahab, created king David and Bathsheba, who created everyone human being, and allowed them to exist and behave according to their nature Homosexuals, Transgender, Non Binary et cetera shouldn't necessarily be anyone's bugbear, however being and having paedophiles should. Steep:God uses, for His purpose, the foolish things of the world, to shame, those who think in their eyes, they are wise (i.e. like on this thread, shame, to reveal OP's ignorance), and God selects for His purpose, the weak things of the world to shame those who think they are powerful and strong (i.e. uses it to reveal their self righteousness, reveal how shallow in thinking some posters are) Go educate yourself on epigenetics. Quit publicly displaying your ignorance and arrogantly showing your poor biblical literacy Steep:Is it immoral to love one person, one human being for life? Steep:Yes, fidelity, whatsoever the relationship one finds oneself in, matters. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 12:30pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Maynman: Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 2 Likes |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 12:40pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
NNTR: Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Homosexuality is vile, unseemly, an error. God never created anything vile or unseemly. Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Nothing impure, vile unseemly will enter into God's kingdom. Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. #Jesus is not a story teller, theology is the teachings about God and his way# |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by AndroidAI(m): 1:46pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
There is no one answer to this question, as people have different beliefs about God and the nature of sexuality. Some people believe that God created all people as they are, including those who are homosexual, transgender, or non-binary. Others believe that God does not create people with these identities, but that they are a result of other factors, such as genetics, upbringing, or personal choice. Still others believe that God does not exist, and that the concept of God is a human invention. Ultimately, what matters is how we treat each other, regardless of our beliefs about God or sexuality. Everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect, and to be free from discrimination and violence. It's important to remember that people with different sexual orientations, gender identities, and beliefs are just as valuable and deserving of love and acceptance as anyone else. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 2:13pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Steep: First, you have to answer what Paul means by “For this cause…” in verse 26. What “cause”? Read what Paul wrote in the preceeding verses, what was the “reason" and does it apply to any LGBT people today, or ever? Rom 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, Rom 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Rom 1:24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, Rom 1:25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. Paul is writing about idol worship, “images of mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things,” and the temple prostitution that existed in his culture, his society, not Gay and Lesbian people today, or ever. Not transgender people, who we are only beginning to understand there is no word in ancient Hebrew or Greek for homosexuality;. Not the variety of normal (not immoral) sexual orientation that we experience. Any sexual expression can become immoral. The porn sites are full of heterosexual sexual immorality. |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 2:17pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
AndroidAI:sexuality is not a belief. You don't belief you are a man or woman. Telling you the truth is not hate but love neither is it violence. Jesus came to save men's this is only possible if they know the truth. Jesus is a real historical figure and Christianity is founded on this man who is real not false religions that are based on human imaginations. |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 2:24pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Steep:I’m glad you know that “belief and faith” is insufficient to know truth. Can you show evidence to this real historical figure? Everything you know about this historical figure is found in which books and which authors? 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 3:08pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Maynman:you have been trying to avoid vv 27, since but there is no hiding place for a wicked person. Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 3:10pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Maynman:The Christian faith is based on historical facts. About Jesus. I am not going to waste my time of trying to give pearls to a pig. |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 3:20pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Steep: The Christian faith is based on Judaism and it’s also a false religion that is based on human imaginations. A indoctrinated sheep can’t give any FACT except what his shepherd told him and he ignorantly “Beliefs”. Your iesus chrestus doesn’t exist outside the New Testament created by CHRESTIANS! 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 3:21pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Steep: Did the chapter start from vv27? Why are you so desperate about an act that doesn’t affect you PERSONALLY, imagine calling me a wicked person because of what you read in a random book, did i kill someone You are an EXTREMIST! In your ephesian, Note the conspicuous absence of any reference or allusion to homosexuality or sex in general? |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:22pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Genesis 2:24 |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 7:32pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Maynman:I am Christ sheep but you are a goat just like your father the devil. You are a liar just like your father, you are always doing his desire. Unfortunately for you, you cannot change history, Jesus is a historical person. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 7:43pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Maynman: You are a wicked person, you hate God and Jesus Christ. Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 7:50pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Steep: You are an emotional extremist all because I don’t worship your christian god. You are a wicked person, you hate Zeus and esu. Common sense 9:11: the extremist shall meet their waterloo, and your christian god only exist in a forged jewish book! 1 Like
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Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 7:51pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Steep: You are a docile sheep, and your pastor is your shepherd, your master. You are a Murderer and sadist like your father, uselsss yahweh, you are always doing his barbaric wish that you read in a forged jewish book! Unfortunately for you and your father, your Jesus Christ only exist in a forged book complied by CHRESTIANS outside of it he is non existent! 1 Like
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Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 8:03pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Vv 26 is a consequence of the previous verse. The reason why homosexuality exist is because God abandoned these people to it as a result of their rejection of God. The previous verses expands on how people rejects the evidence of God, made idols for themselves declared themselves as wise. Vv26 said for these cause God abandoned them to these vile and foolish desires. Homosexuality is a result of man's fallen nature. The only reason humans can have some level of decency is because of God but when they think themselves to be wise to no longer need God or reject the knowledge of God, He will abandon them to their corrupt nature. This is what is happening to this modern world, because people saw themselves as civilized, elightenment (this present age is called age of elightenment) they reject the knowledge of God that is why these things are rising. Elightenment cannot make humans better they must be born again. John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 8:05pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
First, you have to answer what Paul means by “For this cause…” in verse 26. What “cause”? Read what Paul wrote in the preceeding verses, what was the “reason" and does it apply to any LGBT people today, or ever? Rom 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, Rom 1:23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. Rom 1:24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, Rom 1:25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. Paul is writing about idol worship, “images of mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things,” and the temple prostitution that existed in his culture, his society, not Gay and Lesbian people today, or ever. Not transgender people, who we are only beginning to understand there is no word in ancient Hebrew or Greek for homosexuality;. Not the variety of normal (not immoral) sexual orientation that we experience. Any sexual expression can become immoral. The porn sites are full of heterosexual sexual immorality. |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 8:05pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Maynman: Why are you afraid? Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire. 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 8:06pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Note the conspicuous absence of any reference or allusion to homosexuality or sex in general? Why do you have so much HATE for people that did nothing wrong to you all because you read a book, if the book said otherwise you’ll be fine with it, what kind of docile sheep is this! 1 Like |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Maynman: 8:08pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Steep: Afraid of useless yahweh or your iesus chrestus found only in a CHRESTIAN book? No wonder jews reject the fraud. Why are you a dullard? Basing your life on random books with UNKNOWN AUTHORS? Wankada 4;55: the sheeps that have been indoctrinated with jewish mythology will keep worshipping abrahamaic gods till they die, they have no hope, all their lives is based on forged jewish books! Shalaye 4:44- yahweh is a common Israelite god in jewish mythology, his father EL gave him israEL as inheritance! |
Re: Did God Create People To Be Homosexuals, Transgender, Pedophiles, Non Binary Etc by Steep(m): 8:09pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Maynman:Thank God you know know that I am a Son of yahweh. I am proud to be a Son of Yahweh, you on the other hand a goat, You are heady, insolent, blasphemous like your father the devil. John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 1 Like |
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