Obedience40:



still the same thing how dose a drone armed with missiles comes within firing range of USA navy carrier battle group, without it being detected and destroyed


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WriteerNg:
⚡VLADIMIR PUTIN:

"The United States spends more on defence than all other countries combined.

If the expenses of all countries in the world are combined and added up, the United States still spends more on defence than all countries together.

Why? Huge amounts of money are spent on maintaining bases abroad.

I am often asked how we manage to have cutting-edge weapons such as Avangard glide vehicles or other types.

Well, we specifically focus our efforts, finances, and administrative resources on the goals that matter the most.

And the United States is forced to spend money on maintaining its armed forces because with bases deployed around the world, the costs must be huge, and the opportunities for embezzlement are endless.

I am not pointing fingers now; I know we also have a lot of fraud.

Embezzlement is widespread in Russia as well as in your countries, but in the United States, it is mostly found in the army.

Why? Because there is always more theft in maintenance; it is just inevitable.

Massive resources are spent on maintaining its imperial status.

Does this benefit the American people? I do not think so.

This is rather making the United States backslide, and analysts in the United States are aware of this.

In fact, they are saying this directly. They openly write about it. I read them.

The question is how fast that slide will be.

If they were smart people, they would read what their analysts write.

They would have adjusted and remained on Olympus longer.

But today’s leadership wants to maintain this imperial standing at all costs and only harms itself.

But change is still occurring; it is inevitable, it is already underway – there is no unipolar world anymore.

I would say what we all need to do right now – in the United States, in Europe, in Russia, and in Asia – having realised this, we need to make sure we do not go to the extreme that our British colleague has mentioned.

Having realised this, each of us needs to restrain their ambitions and learn to negotiate, rather than dissuade others from reaching agreements.

And then the world will change, but without any cataclysms that frighten everyone so much."

Obedience40:


As many as possible
how I wish you could pass your theory to the houtis so it can be put to test

WriteerNg:
⚡VLADIMIR PUTIN:

"The United States spends more on defence than all other countries combined.

If the expenses of all countries in the world are combined and added up, the United States still spends more on defence than all countries together.

Why? Huge amounts of money are spent on maintaining bases abroad.

I am often asked how we manage to have cutting-edge weapons such as Avangard glide vehicles or other types.

Well, we specifically focus our efforts, finances, and administrative resources on the goals that matter the most.

And the United States is forced to spend money on maintaining its armed forces because with bases deployed around the world, the costs must be huge, and the opportunities for embezzlement are endless.

I am not pointing fingers now; I know we also have a lot of fraud.

Embezzlement is widespread in Russia as well as in your countries, but in the United States, it is mostly found in the army.

Why? Because there is always more theft in maintenance; it is just inevitable.

Massive resources are spent on maintaining its imperial status.

Does this benefit the American people? I do not think so.

This is rather making the United States backslide, and analysts in the United States are aware of this.

In fact, they are saying this directly. They openly write about it. I read them.

The question is how fast that slide will be.

If they were smart people, they would read what their analysts write.

They would have adjusted and remained on Olympus longer.

But today’s leadership wants to maintain this imperial standing at all costs and only harms itself.

But change is still occurring; it is inevitable, it is already underway – there is no unipolar world anymore.

I would say what we all need to do right now – in the United States, in Europe, in Russia, and in Asia – having realised this, we need to make sure we do not go to the extreme that our British colleague has mentioned.

Having realised this, each of us needs to restrain their ambitions and learn to negotiate, rather than dissuade others from reaching agreements.

And then the world will change, but without any cataclysms that frighten everyone so much."

motayoayinde:


Iran is unlikely to be directly involved in a regional war involving Israel. I said this first. Did you read my first comment properly?

But should Iran be attacked directly, it will respond hard. I also said this didn't I?
So what are you going on about?
Except you're saying Iran should not respond to an unprovoked direct attack.

It's funny you still believe America will "bomb Iran to stone age" on behalf of Israel!
Didn't people say this after Israel bombed Iranian consulate? And were sure Iran was walking into a trap that'll see it levelled?
Did that happen?

Let me make it clear: AMERICA WON'T BE FIGHTING ANYBODY'S WAR DIRECTLY AT THIS TIME! Let AIPAC go to the moon and back, the best America will do for Israel is what we've seen since this war started. If push comes to shove, America will let Israel go.

And please stop mouthing that cliche about "bombing Iran to stone age". Not everywhere is Gaza! You're talking about a country of over 1.6 million sq km. Iran is the 7th largest country on earth. That's only possible with tiny countries like Israel.

Lastly on nukes, I hate the argument that a country must surrender to slavery and terrorism because it doesn't have one. Afghans fought off American bullies with their AK 47 and IEDs. Vietnamese did the same.
Personally I don't even believe anyone is nuking anyone in the ME. For example, Israel will eventually become inhabitable for Isrealis after nuking Palestine.

Procashtips:

When discussing strategic positioning, Africa as a continent is never mentioned.

What a sad reminder 😨

Alamkir:


Wait ooo....... Are you deliberately doing this? It's simple now. If 100 or more drones attack a carrier, Even if the drones were detected you can't destroy them all, some are going to hit

dvkot:
Quite some interesting insight from some of you guys here, firstly I didn't say USA will invade Iran it's suicidal for them to do that...
My response was to a post of some saying Iran will or should get involved in a war between Hezbollah and Israel.

I literally said a war in the ME is not in anyone's favor everybody there will suffer to a certain degree


Cc: motayoayinde Alkaimr

dvkot:

When I mean stone age it's not reducing it to rubles but taking out critical infrastructure like refineries, nuclear plant, water infrastructure and so on.

dvkot:
Quite some interesting insight from some of you guys here, firstly I didn't say USA will invade Iran it's suicidal for them to do that...
My response was to a post of some saying Iran will or should get involved in a war between Hezbollah and Israel.

I literally said a war in the ME is not in anyone's favor everybody there will suffer to a certain degree


Cc: motayoayinde Alkaimr

Alamkir:


And yet Russia hasn't taken Ukraine back to stone age. It's not that easy my brother

23jerryking:
See ehn, the truth is that even in war there's still that element of humanity in both the aggressor and the oppressed. No matter how much I hate a particular nation I won't be so wicked enough to start attacking their Oil and water infrastructure nah. That's worse than even a direct hit on people. A lot of lives depend on this structures, hitting it directly means that you're worse than the devil himself. It won't take me anything, but will I do it? No. Except if it gets to a certain stage in the war where everything becomes truly "fair" as they do say.

WriteerNg:
⚡Serbia has sent thousands of military equipments and weapons to Ukraine worth $1b.

You don't see Russia complaining, they still maintain a good relationship with Serbia. Same as Turkey in the early days of the war.

This can never be the US. They like to fight a war when they have a huge advantage. The US fight wars like women.

First they sanction and seize all your funds and assets.

Then they tell other nations not to do business with you, just like how women expect all their friends to keep malice with their enemy.

Then they wait for years till you're finally weak enough before they enter into the war.

They're too cowardly to fight man to man. 90% of the time they rely on drone and airstrikes before they even make any move.

Then 20 years later they pull out, achieving nothing. 😁😁😁

Then they start screaming to the whole world and all who would listen about how powerful they are.

Masterviolence:

You still don't get it.
I believe you're not myopic.
I think you obviously lack the cognitive propensity to fathom the subject of discourse.

What Appleyard is saying, is in conjuction with what i told you yesterday.
There's no defensive system that can score a 100% defensive rate when swarmed in close proximity with advance drones.

The reason for the introduction of EWS as a protective layer is to prevent the exhaustion of interceptor missle while simultaneously doing the interception, but this doesn't defect the obstacle of swarming itself.

Masterviolence:

He's emotionally dysregulated now that the facts are too numerous to dispute.

Masterviolence:

The joke is on you, because the last time i cheacked, not all drones are suicide drones.

Some drones carries missles

Appleyard:


Early detection is one thing, how many drones you can engage simultaneously in a matter of minutes is another thing entirely. It's obvious you're new to this topic.

How many air defense missiles does surface ships carry in their arsenals? By the time they succeed in taking out most of the drones in the swarm, the ships might have run out of interception missiles. In a near peer scenario in the real world, facts have proven that there is no 100% success rate of intercepting a drone swarm from close proximity, especially with advanced drones both at sea and in the air. The Ukraine war should be your eye-opener. The damage the Shaheeds and Lancets have done to Ukraine is there for all to see, and we are talking about a battlefield with one of the most policed and contested air and sea space in modern warfare history. Talk about NATO's "All seeing eye" and OSINT, alongside Ukraine's capable air defenses, which offers a formidable multilayered air coverage for the Ukraine. Still, Mr Lancet and Sultan Shaheed always find their way to their targets.

Citing Iranian drone attack on Israel is a weak argument. A coalition of countries had to come together to help intercept those drones that were flying from 1200 km from their launch sites in Iran, giving Israel many hours of a heads-up ahead. In fact, it would have been a complete failure on Israel and the coalition part had they failed to take down the drones because, not only do they have the quantity of the right interception assets but many hours ahead to prepare. Moreover, the long distance and the single flight path they were flying gave the coalition a predictable and one-way flight path to map and take them out. But take the Hezbollah scenario for instance, many of their drones have caused and still causing havoc in Israel as we speak. Even the US you're talking about is now developing their own drone swarm capability, with the "protection" of Taiwan in mind. If it doesn't and won't work, why venture into it. It works and could cause serious damage to any country' surface ships no matter the strength of that country. Ukrainian drones both at sea and air based have recorded some success against Russia's sea based military and civilian assets, despite the Russian formidable defense and EW capabilities.

Take it or leave it, drone and AI driven missile capabilities are the Hallmark of the current and future of modern conventional warfare.

WriteerNg:
⚡The US still cannot get its astronauts back to earth due to Boeing technical problems.

(The US used to rely on Russia to ferry its astronauts to and from the International Space Station (ISS)).

"What was meant to be a one-week stay in space for astronauts Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore is now extending into what could be a month-long vacation or more, as NASA and Boeing officials announced Friday that the beleaguered Starliner capsule's return to Earth has to be delayed once again.

The Starliner, which has been docked at the International Space Station (ISS) since June 6, was scheduled to return to Earth about a week later as part of a test to see if it could smoothly send astronauts back and forth from the station.

Instead, as announced at a joint Boeing and NASA press conference June 18, the craft had to stay put initially because of failing reaction control thrusters and helium leaks.

Boeing announced in a mission update Friday that officials are extending the delay of the mission to "to review propulsion system data."

Vic2023:
Denmark has no legal right to restrict shipping in the Baltic Sea, the Tages-Anzeiger newspaper reports.

According to her, the Baltic straits, which are primarily discussed, belong to international waters and are in equal use of all states.

Appleyard:


Plus some drones are stealthy, making them highly difficult to detect thereby doubling the possibility of realizing the close proximity target we are talking about.

More salt to his wounds

Masterviolence:


This is a very factual and realistic write-up.

This is obviously how things will play out.
Many on this platform claiming an iran vs israel war will see israel destroyed don't know that iran will never rise again if they face off with israel without acquiring nukes, we all know that israel can't fight iran alone, hence a war with israel is a war with the u.s and the u.s will brutally execute that war turning iran to an inhabitable stone age scenerio.
The 2 reasons, the u.s has not gone to war with this people is the lack of evidence to invade iran.
Secondly is the reaction of other superpowers if the the u.s decide to invade with the IDF without genuine reasons.

I actually rushed to check the moniker hoping it was one of those dump western folks parading this thread only to be disappointed that it was you.
I know deep inside me that non of those slaves can put together such factual statement.

Appleyard:


You haven't seen anything.

Obedience40:



you should take time to read about the USA based sea air defence, "Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System" those destroyers ships are actually are actually air defences which were incorporated into ships as a sea leg of the USA missile defence program.

the USA navy carrier don't operate in shallow waters but deep inside the ocean, that means any drone attack launch from the land would have to travel a bit of a distance to attack it which gives the strke group time to react.

no Carrier group oprates in hostile water's, were it can be easily attacked, it nuclear reactors gives it unlimited range, in a war with a capable enemy like China, the USA carrier's would likely operates far from missiles range and use its aircraft to attack, the essence of a aircraft Carrier is to be able to fighter jets close enough to the battle ground.

I get your point's thou, a group of drones attacking a Carrier group would definitely score a point, the key for carriers is "deterrence" using it's jets and it's escorts long range missles to hit target before they get close.

sainttwist1:
how many planes can 1 airport handle at a time.....compare that to tens of equipments with radar and defensive weapons

Argument like this gets me livid.

We are talking about:
Lunch, Detection and Interception.

What is the correlation between this topic and the numbers of airplanes an airport can accomodate?
There's obviously no link to this topic of debate.

The only link I can think of, is you trying everything in you to travel out.
Visa, Airport and Abroad

Obedience40:



still the same thing how dose a drone armed with missiles comes within firing range of USA navy carrier battle group, without it being detected and destroyed


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