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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 9:59am On Aug 29
hamzeiy:


Chinese are cowards...and they would forever remain no. 2 until they are ready to stand for what they believe....
They just chose to have peace and concentrate efforts towards the development of their land and people. With time you'll be surprised at their response to all of these. They won't always remain cowards.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 10:02am On Aug 29
petesunday:
Yes the Jews and Arabs were at peace for thousands of years until the Ashkenazi arrived from Europe with their nonsense zionism.

In a 2019 study, in a sample meant to be representative of the Israeli Jewish population, about 44.9% percent of Israel's Jewish population were categorized as Mizrahi (defined as having grandparents born in North Africa or Asia), 31.8% were categorized as Ashkenazi (defined as having grandparents born in Europe, the Americas, Oceania and South Africa), 12.4% as "Soviet" (defined as having progenitors who came from the ex-USSR in 1989 or later), about 3% as Beta Israel (Ethiopia) and 7.9% as a mix of these, or other Jewish groups.

Obviously, Mizrahi Jews who are more connected to the land. Nevertheless, the Ashkenazi like that Polish boy, Netanyahu, are the dominant force in Israel. This is because most of the efforts to create Israel were from the Ashkenazi and not the local Jews like Mizrahi.

Now to answer your last question, there are already many research works questioning the links between the European Jews and the ancient Hebrews. Even if they are linked they have been tainted by European blood and the Palestinians who are actually Hebrew descendants converted to Islam by the Arabs have more genetic rights than these European impostors.




Is Nigerian white super falcons defender Nigeria her Grand father is Nigerian. So according to what you wrote she is tainted by European blood and now she is no longer Nigerian.


Yes they lived in peace?

History doesn't agree with you.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 10:12am On Aug 29
petesunday:
Bro, you don't get it. There are studies linking the DNA of current Palestinians with ancient Hebrews.

Remember, after the rise of Islam around 6th century AD, the Arabic influences spread and most of the middle east just became dominated by them. The Palestinians may have converted to Islam en masse and remain so till this day. This means they genetically have full rights to that land.

Meanwhile, even Biblically, Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldeans and not indigenous to Canaan. His descendants had to kill off many of the inhabitants to take the land and that's also what the modern day Jews are doing.

If everyone whose ancestors lived on a land 2,000 years ago come back to reclaim it, everybody will be dispossessed. Even US and Australia that recently dispossessed their aboriginal population, they are not safe because the red Indians should also have the right to revolt and be helped by Russia to take America back.

Please all that land of our forefathers nonsense is hogwash and propaganda and can only make meaning through a religious prism. Yet in the modern world we are living in, it is being allowed. It is pathetic.

The Ashkenazi migrating from Europe could have bought land and lived peacefully in a Palestine jointly owned by both Arabs and Jews but they opted foe Zionism due to their greed. A lie can endure for centuries but not forever.



Are US and Australian aboriginals living outside this countries? Anyway it isn't part of this discussion.


The Palestinians or you mean Jews? Yes some Jews did convert to Islam but it wasn't more than ten percent of the Jewish population.


Thank God you brought Abraham into this matter you do know Arabs and Jews are related?


Do askenazi Jews have Jewish ancestry yes or no.



I have a YouTube video of palestinians saying we were never jews and we are Arabs.


So now you admit that Jews are indeginous and have right to be in the land of Israel?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 10:14am On Aug 29
petesunday:
Netanyahu's father is Polish.

When over 2,000 years have passed, you are definitely going to have a blend. Do you know how long 2,000 years is? Even the Yoruba ethnic group in Nigeria, it will shock you that some of them were assimilated. For instance, the Ijebus were not even Yorubas 300 years ago but we're assimilated by the Yoruba culture and language, under the Oyo empire.

Look at Egypt and all the multiple eras of dynasties with diverse races beginning from Black, to Semitic, Greek and finally, Arabic. Imagine the amount of mixing that would have occurred along the line. That is why ethnicity is more about cultural identity than genetic linkage.


My best guess is that, the Palestinians as assimilated Arabs. This does not give them less right to the land than some European impostors.



Thank God you called it your best guess. All you have to legitimise the Palestinians is a guess.


Let's stick to facts my friend.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 10:16am On Aug 29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGKC59F33PI?si=VbqLZhR_-oOl6dRF
They'll tell you it's fake, and that it was planted. I have no soft pity for terrorists jare. You deserve what you're getting.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 10:17am On Aug 29
The same right jews have is the same right palestinian Arabs have but why did they have to cede some of the land already occupied by indigenous palestinian Arabs to migrating European Jews who own another citizenship. If the you were palestinian and your fathers village falls in the area they allocated to the migraying jews would you be happy?


Lawag3:


Are US and Australian aboriginals living outside this countries? Anyway it isn't part of this discussion.


The Palestinians or you mean Jews? Yes some Jews did convert to Islam but it wasn't more than ten percent of the Jewish population.


Thank God you brought Abraham into this matter you do know Arabs and Jews are related?


Do askenazi Jews have Jewish ancestry yes or no.



I have a YouTube video of palestinians saying we were never jews and we are Arabs.


So now you admit that Jews are indeginous and have right to be in the land of Israel?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 10:17am On Aug 29
petesunday:
Netanyahu's father is Polish.

When over 2,000 years have passed, you are definitely going to have a blend. Do you know how long 2,000 years is? Even the Yoruba ethnic group in Nigeria, it will shock you that some of them were assimilated. For instance, the Ijebus were not even Yorubas 300 years ago but we're assimilated by the Yoruba culture and language, under the Oyo empire.

Look at Egypt and all the multiple eras of dynasties with diverse races beginning from Black, to Semitic, Greek and finally, Arabic. Imagine the amount of mixing that would have occurred along the line. That is why ethnicity is more about cultural identity than genetic linkage.


My best guess is that, the Palestinians as assimilated Arabs. This does not give them less right to the land than some European impostors.



In 135 AD, after a failed revolt against the Romans, many Judeans were forced into exile. Some left under their own power, while others were sold into slave markets throughout the Roman Empire. Their descendants established Jewish communities throughout North Africa, the Middle East, and Europe.

During the Middle Ages, European communities were given names based on Biblical figures. The Jews in Spain were called Sephardim, while those who had migrated north into Germany were called Ashkenazim. (There were names for other communities also, in other countries, that are no longer in use.) The close association of German and French Jews resulted in that whole area being subsumed under the “Ashkenazi” label. Later, those Jews migrated east, into Central Europe, Poland, Ukraine, and Russia. They developed a language that was a mix of German and Hebrew with a healthy dash of Russian, called Yiddish. (The Sephardim had a language based upon Spanish, Ladino).

As most European Jews in the 20th century were of Ashkenazi descent, that was the group that Hitler decimated.

The distinctions between Sephardim, Ashkenazi, and the Mizrahi Jews, who remained in the Middle East, were of interest only to Jews until recently. Though there are slight variations genetically, all three groups are descended from the Levant, and have similar DNA profiles. Some European women, mostly from Italy, converted to Judaism and married Ashkenazi men, bringing European DNA into that group.

For political reasons, there are some who claim that the Ashkenazi are not descended from the original Judean Jews, and they offer various theories about where they came form instead. Quora is a hotbed of that movement, so you will see a lot of it here. The motive is to cast them as colonial European invaders of the Middle East. However, DNA studies have proven those theories false, and confirmed the common Levant ancestry of Ashkenzei, Sephardim, and Mizrahi.



Is that the above genuine and proven history or is it my best guess.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 10:20am On Aug 29
The fact is that that there are studies showing Palestinians are related to ancient Jews. Meanwhile, I have nothing against Jews that had been in Palestine before Zionism. The real devils are those European Jews, Zionists who migrated to take another person's land.
Lawag3:



Thank God you called it your best guess. All you have to legitimise the Palestinians is a guess.


Let's stick to facts my friend.


Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 10:21am On Aug 29
How is the US Convincing the Philippines to Destroy Itself?


As China rises, Asia rises with it. The Southeast Asian state of the Philippines stood to rise alongside the rest of the region until relatively recently as the United States successfully convinces the Philippines to do otherwise. 
Before the current administration of Ferdinand Marcos Jr. took office, China was working with the Philippines to bu...

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 10:21am On Aug 29
The fact is that that there are studies showing Palestinians are related to ancient Jews. Meanwhile, I have nothing against Jews that had been in Palestine before Zionism. The real devils are those European Jews, Zionists who migrated to take another person's land. They knew what they were doing by creatingbtheir own state.
Lawag3:



Thank God you called it your best guess. All you have to legitimise the Palestinians is a guess.


Let's stick to facts my friend.


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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 10:23am On Aug 29
Let me tell you, nobody can say for certain, what happened almost 2k years ago. The diaspora Jews likely have genetic links to ancient hebrews but have become mixed by intermarraige with Europeans, something that did not happen to Middle eastern jews.
Lawag3:



In 135 AD, after a failed revolt against the Romans, many Judeans were forced into exile. Some left under their own power, while others were sold into slave markets throughout the Roman Empire. Their descendants established Jewish communities throughout North Africa, the Middle East, and Europe.

During the Middle Ages, European communities were given names based on Biblical figures. The Jews in Spain were called Sephardim, while those who had migrated north into Germany were called Ashkenazim. (There were names for other communities also, in other countries, that are no longer in use.) The close association of German and French Jews resulted in that whole area being subsumed under the “Ashkenazi” label. Later, those Jews migrated east, into Central Europe, Poland, Ukraine, and Russia. They developed a language that was a mix of German and Hebrew with a healthy dash of Russian, called Yiddish. (The Sephardim had a language based upon Spanish, Ladino).

As most European Jews in the 20th century were of Ashkenazi descent, that was the group that Hitler decimated.

The distinctions between Sephardim, Ashkenazi, and the Mizrahi Jews, who remained in the Middle East, were of interest only to Jews until recently. Though there are slight variations genetically, all three groups are descended from the Levant, and have similar DNA profiles. Some European women, mostly from Italy, converted to Judaism and married Ashkenazi men, bringing European DNA into that group.

For political reasons, there are some who claim that the Ashkenazi are not descended from the original Judean Jews, and they offer various theories about where they came form instead. Quora is a hotbed of that movement, so you will see a lot of it here. The motive is to cast them as colonial European invaders of the Middle East. However, DNA studies have proven those theories false, and confirmed the common Levant ancestry of Ashkenzei, Sephardim, and Mizrahi.



Is that the above genuine and proven history or is it my best guess.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 10:24am On Aug 29
emmaodet:


In all these tensions, i am really angry and not happy with china.
China is too afraid and shying away from fighting.
Opening a new front in Taiwan would have stretched the US military thin and to the limit and they will struggle to fund the 3 wars simultaneously - lebanon/isreal, russia/ukraine, china/taiwan.
Rather than for China to take action while US is actively arming taiwan to the teeth and training their soldiers, china is busy observing and making statements.
They are not even bold enough to be supporting russia publicly with arms, finance and military instructors aka soldiers.
One thing China should know is that those who want and seeking her downfall are not hiding it, they are bold about it and making visible plans, she will be very stupid if she thinks she can fight these vampires alone if russia is drained and exhausted.


Firstly not everyone is as $+upid as you nor as clueless as putin, you think war is playing call of duty on xbox. If You think XI would start a major war in Asia, put his country on a war path, sacrifice thousands of Chinese, put the Chinese economy in jeopardy just because he simply wants to stretch the US military or please your master putin, then you must be suffering from degenerative brain disease.

For the first time in many years the Chinese economy has contracted, also there is a housing crisis and with its huge population, only a clown would think Xi would risk its economy and start a needless war against taiwan.

China and the USA may be rivals both military, political and economical but both are tied to each other. The US is China largest trading partner, china provides one of the largest markets for the US. both countries have the largest volume of trade between any nations, only a clown like you will think china would forfeits its biggest trading partner, its position as a major player in the world, its very stable and growing economy a fantastic industrial sector for a senseless war against taiwan to please the clueless putin.

for many years china has played second fiddle to the US and russia, was confined to the backseat had no real influence over political affairs and diplomacy was seen as just a rising power in the east, not a major player, but with its rapid economical transformation and its industrial sector which had skyrocketed has finally brought china into the thick of the spectrum.
And putin clueless war in Ukraine has automatically cemented china as the next thing to the US, XI china has postulated peace resolutions in the Ukraine war and the isreali Palestine issue, same china who broker a peaceful resolution with both Iran and the Arabians this is china venturing into a new diplomatic path trying to upstand the United states and become mediator in chief


You think xi would sacrifices his new found diplomatic power its new image as a mediator just to start a senseless war in Asia, you must be high as f**.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 10:28am On Aug 29
petesunday:
The same right jews have is the same right palestinian Arabs have but why did they have to cede some of the land already occupied by indigenous palestinian Arabs to migrating European Jews who own another citizenship. If the you were palestinian and your fathers village falls in the area they allocated to the migraying jews would you be happy?



Land matter is very complicated. And yes I won't be happy but the point I am trying to make I'd the fact you guys try to paint the Jews as foreigners in their own native land.

Arabs and Jewish conflicts had always been there because religious and cultural differences.


This is a fact I know never before has an indigenous displaced people ever recovered their land except the Jews. And this isn't the first time they are doing it Cyrus released the Jews from captivity in Babylon.


I know why it happens but that's a religious matter.


If the Arabs had just declared the state of Palestine when the Jews did theirs the state of Palestine would have been existing side by side the state of israel. Instead they declared war
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 10:32am On Aug 29
petesunday:
Let me tell you, nobody can say for certain, what happened almost 2k years ago. The diaspora Jews likely have genetic links to ancient hebrews but have become mixed by intermarraige with Europeans, something that did not happen to Middle eastern jews.

I did not say that they didn't mix and it's a historical fact that European Jews are descendants of Jews that migrated from Israel.


How did you think Jews appeared in Europe.

It's a fact that the first askenazi Jewish community was founded in Rome.


Does intermarriage stop a Jew from being a Jew


If a Nigerian married and Arab what is their decendants called.


When you guys talk it seems like you forget that mizrahi Jews are the majority in Israel.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 10:36am On Aug 29
petesunday:
The fact is that that there are studies showing Palestinians are related to ancient Jews. Meanwhile, I have nothing against Jews that had been in Palestine before Zionism. The real devils are those European Jews, Zionists who migrated to take another person's land.

Arabs generally are related to ancient Jews. Do You know that t the ottoman empire sold almost ten percent of the lands to european Jews right?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 10:37am On Aug 29
❗️"Invading Russia is easy. The hard part has always been getting out alive."

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 10:37am On Aug 29
petesunday:
The fact is that that there are studies showing Palestinians are related to ancient Jews. Meanwhile, I have nothing against Jews that had been in Palestine before Zionism. The real devils are those European Jews, Zionists who migrated to take another person's land. They knew what they were doing by creatingbtheir own state.


Because if the Jews and Arabs were to be in one state there will never be peace. And that's a fact.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 10:40am On Aug 29
⚡Algeria announces plans to join BRICS.

"Algeria intends to join BRICS and bring relations with the association's countries to a new level."

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 10:41am On Aug 29
Vl3ly:
❗️"Invading Russia is easy. The hard part has always been getting out alive."


I swear.


Easy to enter, impossible to get out from alive.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 10:50am On Aug 29
Lawag3:


Arabs generally are related to ancient Jews. Do You know that t the ottoman empire sold almost ten percent of the lands to european Jews right?

proof it
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 10:59am On Aug 29
🇷🇺🇺🇦 It is reported that the Russian Armed Forces have liberated Sinkovka in the Kupyansk direction.

There is footage of the Russian flag being raised over a populated area, which our soldiers had previously liberated after heavy and lengthy battles.

There has been no official confirmation of the information yet

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by petesunday: 11:00am On Aug 29
That is a big lie and it is spun by religious fanatics and Zionist media. When the Christians invaded during the crusades, Jews fought alongside Muslims. For almost 1,500 years they lived side by side until the Ashkenazi started arriving.

Meanwhile, western media plays a cause and effect trick on us. They twist it and make us feel the cause is the effect and the effect is the cause. For instance, Palestinian violence is a result of Israeli aggression and not vice versa but because the Palestinians are majority Muslims, you will start comparing them with Islamic extremists to make the argument stick.

Lawag3:



Because if the Jews and Arabs were to be in one state there will never be peace. And that's a fact.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Vl3ly: 11:01am On Aug 29
❗🇺🇲🇷🇺🇺🇦 The United States gave the Ukrainian Armed Forces access to hundreds of thousands of satellite images for the invasion of the Kursk region.

This was announced by the director of the US National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), Vice Admiral Frank Whitworth.

“We have made commercial images available through a portal that contains over four hundred thousand records,” Whitworth said during a speech at the US National Security and Intelligence Conference.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 11:30am On Aug 29
Lmaooo

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 11:47am On Aug 29
petesunday:
That is a big lie and it is spun by religious fanatics and Zionist media. When the Christians invaded during the crusades, Jews fought alongside Muslims. For almost 1,500 years they lived side by side until the Ashkenazi started arriving.

Meanwhile, western media plays a cause and effect trick on us. They twist it and make us feel the cause is the effect and the effect is the cause. For instance, Palestinian violence is a result of Israeli aggression and not vice versa but because the Palestinians are majority Muslims, you will start comparing them with Islamic extremists to make the argument stick.



I like the fact that you acknowledged the Jewish presence in the land. Because Jews fought along side Muslims doesn't make them friends Jews also fought alongside muhammed and it didn't stop he for giving verses ordering Jewish death and killing the Jews who aided him.


So are you trying to say there was no conflict between Jews and Arabs before Zionism? Say it
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 11:48am On Aug 29
Vl3ly:
proof it


Disprove it.


Ignorant fellow
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 11:49am On Aug 29
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 0m0luabi: 12:02pm On Aug 29
Lawag3:



Disprove it.


Ignorant fellow
he who assert must prove,how can he disprove your mere imaginations? Are you not the one that suppose to prove what you said without backing it with any evidence?You will be spewing nonsense up and down and when you are confronted you result to your usual tactics but I don't blame you na pesin wey dey argue with you dey give you attention you are desperately looking for.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 12:05pm On Aug 29
0m0luabi:
he who assert must prove,how can he disprove your mere imaginations? Are you not the one that suppose to prove what you said without backing it with any evidence?You will be spewing nonsense up and down and when you are confronted you result to your usual tactics but I don't blame you na pesin wey dey argue with you dey give you attention you are desperately looking for.


Oya let's do it like this If I prove that the ottomans sold lands to Jews you'll de-ativate your nairaland account you agree?


If you don't shut the hell up.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by FoolishBoy419: 1:35pm On Aug 29
Lawag3:


They were living in Israel. Their ancestors lived in Israel and they have always been Jewish presence in Israel.

There's a widespread belief that North Africa was once a majority black region. Maybe we should all move there or better still, everyone outside Africa should have visa-free access to the African continent since humanity originated from here according to many scientific sources. You have no idea how silly this ancestry 'logic' is.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 1:43pm On Aug 29
⚡The Swedish economy shrank in the second quarter as household spending and investment fell, official data showed Thursday.

The country’s gross domestic product contracted by 0.3 percent compared to the first quarter, when it grew 0.7 percent, according to Statistics Sweden.

“GDP decreased slightly in the second quarter. The downturn in the economy was wide but offset by the foreign trade in goods, where exports increased and imports decreased,” said Jessica Engdahl, head of national accounts at Statistics Sweden.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 1:59pm On Aug 29
FoolishBoy419:


There's a widespread belief that North Africa was once a majority black region. Maybe we should all move there or better still, everyone outside Africa should have visa-free access to the African continent since humanity originated from here according to many scientific sources. You have no idea how silly this ancestry 'logic' is.


That's a belief not fact. We are talking about a nation not just bush dweller ancestors.


And don't ignore the fact I said they always had a presence in the land

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