Be you a Christian or Muslim or atheist or traditional worshipper the Bible says in Romans 14 verse 12
So then EVERYONE of us shall give account of himself to God.

The same is said in 2 Corinthians 5:10

Let's be very much aware that the denomination you belong to
( Winners, Redeem, Celestial, deeper life etc ) will not count on that day.

The Only way of escape is through Jesus Christ. (Your good works alone cannot save you)

Simply believe in the salvation God has sent ( Jesus Christ) receive Him by confessing Him as your Lord and Savior, obey Him and trust His righteousness to speak for you on that day. The Bible clearly calls him our ADVOCATE .( 1 John 2: 1-2.)

God bless you.

harbibi:
1. Be you a Christian or Muslim or atheist or traditional worshipper the Bible says in Romans 14 verse 12
So then EVERYONE of us shall give account of himself to God. The same is said in 2 Corinthians 5:10

2. Let's be very much aware that the denomination you belong to ( Winners, Redeem, Celestial, deeper life etc ) will not count on that day. The Only way of escape is through Jesus Christ. (Your good works alone cannot save you)

3. Simply believe in the salvation God has sent ( Jesus Christ) receive Him by confessing Him as your Lord and Savior, obey Him and trust His righteousness to speak for you on that day. The Bible clearly calls him our ADVOCATE .( 1 John 2: 1-2.)
God bless you.

1. I am afraid you are projecting there your private narrative on to what Paul supposedly wrote in is letter there. The Kingdom of God, according to Jesus Christ belongs only to a select, those who are of Israel as God said He will make His Covenant of peace with the House of Israel and given that Jesus Christ made clear that He will judge God's flock- Israel according to Ezekiel 34 - at the end, it is wrong to suggest that everyone, even Muslims and Athiests will give account to Him.

2. This is wrong because as Jesus Christ said, again, only those who are of God's flock--- Israel -- Israel will be judged by Him. He did come for those who cling to Christianity and its many idols. instead, He came for the lost sheep of israel - God's sheep.

3. No amount of religious mental gymnastics will cause any one who is not called by God to belong to Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
1. I am afraid you are projecting there your private narrative on to what Paul supposedly wrote in is letter there. The Kingdom of God, according to Jesus Christ belongs only to a select, those who are of Israel as God said He will make His Covenant of peace with the House of Israel and given that Jesus Christ made clear that He will judge God's flock- Israel according to Ezekiel 34 - at the end, it is wrong to suggest that everyone, even Muslims and Athiests will give account to Him.

2. This is wrong because as Jesus Christ said, again, only those who are of God's flock--- Israel -- Israel will be judged by Him. He did come for those who cling to Christianity and its many idols. instead, He came for the lost sheep of israel - God's sheep.

3. No amount of religious mental gymnastics will cause any one who is not called by God to belong to Jesus Christ.

Thanks for your response though I don't fully understand what you wrote but one thing I understand is: There is now NO CONDEMNATION for them who are in Christ Jesus ,,,Rom 8vs1

harbibi:
Thanks for your response though I don't fully understand what you wrote but one thing I understand is: There is now NO CONDEMNATION for them who are in Christ Jesus ,,,Rom 8vs1

Do you even understand the meaning of that statement in bold?

That statement, as it clearly informs you, is only valid for those who are in Jesus Christ---- those who gain access into to the Kingdom of God. And as according Jesus Christ reminded you in His sermons, He was sent by the Father only to the lost sheep of israel meaning that only those who are of the lost sheep of israel can enter into the Kingdom of God. All others - the dogs aka non-isrealites - are not qualified to enter into relationship with Jesus Christ and are as such remain condemned according to God's judgment from the beginning.

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Recall Jesus Christ commands all to seek first the Kingdom of God? Well, you need to confirm you can and have gained entry info the Kingdom of God(and His righteousness) before you continue, so you are at least certain your are a part of His flock.

Kobojunkie:
Do you even understand the meaning of that statement in bold?

That statement, as it clearly informs you, is only valid for those who are in Jesus Christ---- those who gain access into to the Kingdom of God. And as according Jesus Christ reminded you in His sermons, He was sent by the Father only to the lost sheep of israel meaning that only those who are of the lost sheep of israel can enter into the Kingdom of God. All others - the dogs aka non-isrealites - are not qualified to enter into relationship with Jesus Christ and are as such remain condemned according to God's judgment from the beginning.

Stop this nonsense immediately!

There is no Jew or Gentile in Christ Jesus, and anyone who calls upon the name of the LORD will be saved.

MrPresident1:

Stop this nonsense immediately!

There is no Jew or Gentile in Christ Jesus, and anyone who calls upon the name of the LORD will be saved.

Did Paul --- whose words you lot conveniently twist to suit your private interpretations whenever it suits you ---- promise you the Kingdom or did Jesus Christ who said the Kindom belongs only to the lost sheep of Israel do so?

Kobojunkie:
Did Paul promise you the Kingdom or did Jesus Christ who said the Kindom belongs only to the lost sheep of Israel do so?

You don't believe in the epistles of Paul? You don't accept Paul's apostleship?

MrPresident1:
You don't believe in the epistles of Paul? You don't accept Paul's apostleship?

I believe and accept Jesus Christ hence I have no need to twist the words of Paul to suit interpretations and delusions that directly contravene and contradict the Kingdom of God as revealed by Jesus Christ.

Paul in that context where you lifted that verse from made it clear that his audience was of those to whom the Law of Moses was a former guardian, the Israelites (Jews included).

Kobojunkie:
I believe and accept Jesus Christ hence I have no need to twist the words of Paul to suit interpretations and delusions that directly contravene and contradict the Kingdom of God as revealed by Jesus Christ.

Paul in that context where you lifted that verse from made it clear that his audience was of those to whom the Law of Moses was a former guardian, the Israelites (Jews included).

Stop tightening the noose around your neck

Is Christ not within the volume of the book?
Show us where Paul twisted or contravened anything said by the Prophets

MrPresident1:


Stop tightening the noose around your neck

Is Christ not within the volume of the book?
Show us where Paul twisted or contravened anything said by the Prophets

I see your language comprehension issues are back..

Again, I believe and accept Jesus Christ hence I have no need to twist the words of Paul to suit interpretations and delusions that directly contravene and contradict the Kingdom of God as revealed by Jesus Christ.

Paul in that context where you lifted that verse from made it clear that his audience was of those to whom the Law of Moses was a former guardian, the Israelites (Jews included).

Kobojunkie:
I see your language comprehension issues are back..

Again, I believe and accept Jesus Christ hence I have no need to twist the words of Paul to suit interpretations and delusions that directly contravene and contradict the Kingdom of God as revealed by Jesus Christ.

Paul in that context where you lifted that verse from made it clear that his audience was of those to whom the Law of Moses was a former guardian, the Israelites (Jews included).

So you don't accept that Gentiles can be brought into the covenant, through Christ Jesus?

What is your basis for believing or accepting Jesus Christ, are you a Jew or an Israelite?

MrPresident1:
So you don't accept that Gentiles can be brought into the covenant, through Christ Jesus?

What is your basis for believing or accepting Jesus Christ, are you a Jew or an Israelite?

God, through all of the prophets said He would make the agreement of peace with the House of Israel. Jesus Christ confirmed this when He said yhe Father sent Him, Kingdom of God, only to the lost sheep of israel.

What that means is only those who are of the lost sheep of israel can enter into the Kingdom of God aka become born-again. Should I deny the Truth as declared by God Himself?

The kingdom of heaven is within each of us .

Whosoever shall know himself/herself shall find it...

Kobojunkie:
God, through all of the prophets said He would make the agreement of peace with the House of Israel. Jesus Christ confirmed this when He said yhe Father sent Him, Kingdom of God, only to the lost sheep of israel.

What that means is only those who are of the lost sheep of israel can enter into the Kingdom of God aka become born-again. Should I deny the Truth as declared by God Himself?

Is Israel of the flesh or of the Spirit? Who is justified before the Father, the hearer or the doer?

Is the house of the LORD not going to be a house of prayer for all people?
Who receives the praise?

MrPresident1:
Is Israel of the flesh or of the Spirit? Who is justified before the Father, the hearer or the doer?

Is the house of the LORD not going to be a house of prayer for all people?
Who receives the praise?

See me see wahala abeg!

God promised to, for the sake of reclaiming the honor of His name, make an agreement with which to redeem the House of Jacob, the nation of Israel - Ezekiel 36 . Did God not speak of of this directly to the Nation of Israel through His prophets?

Then God sent the agreement in the person of Jesus Christ and the agreement confirmed that He was indeed sent to only redeem the House of Jacob that is God's Nation of Israel. He even went as far as to warn His followers not to give that which is Holy--- the agreement which includes the Kingdom of God -- to the dogs , that is the non-isrealites. Why won't you lot trust God at His Word? Why not accept/trust the Words of Jesus Christ?,

Kobojunkie:
See me see wahala abeg!

God promised to, for the sake of reclaiming the honor of His name, make an agreement with which to redeem the House of Jacob, the nation of Israel - Ezekiel 36 . Did God not speak of of this directly to the Nation of Israel through His prophets?

Then God sent the agreement in the person of Jesus Christ and the agreement confirmed that He was indeed sent to only redeem the House of Jacob that is God's Nation of Israel. He even went as far as to warn His followers not to give that which is Holy--- the agreement which includes the Kingdom of God -- to the dogs , that is the non-isrealites. Why won't you lot trust God at His Word? Why not accept/trust the Words of Jesus Christ?,

Are you an Israelite? Why do you believe or accept Jesus Christ, what is the basis of your accepting or believing in Jesus, are you a Jew?

MrPresident1:
Are you an Israelite? Why do you believe or accept Jesus Christ, what is the basis of your accepting or believing in Jesus, are you a Jew?

I heard the call, accepted and obeyed and as a result was able to enter into the Kingdom of God just as Jesus Christ said meaning I am of Israel as He said I ought to be in order to gain access.

I highly doubt I am a jew -- of the tribe of Benjamin or Judah or even Levi. I am more likely a gentile aka non-Jewish Israelite.

Kobojunkie:
I heard the call, accepted and obeyed and as a result was able to enter into the Kingdom of God just as Jesus Christ said meaning I am of Israel as He said I ought to be in order to gain access.

I highly doubt I am a jew -- of the tribe of Benjamin or Judah or even Levi. I am more likely a gentile aka non-Jewish Israelite.

You heard the call, what call and who called you into the Commonwealth of Israel? You have no basis in Christ, you said this with your own mouth, if you are neither a Jew nor an Israelite, on what basis do you accept Jesus?

MrPresident1:
You heard the call, what call and who called you into the Commonwealth of Israel? You have no basis in Christ, you said this with your own mouth, if you are neither a Jew or an Israelite, on what basis do you accept Jesus?

Called into the commonwealth of Israel? What the heck does that mean?

God cursed and scattered His sheep Israel to all 4 corners of the earth, promising that He will eventually them all back to His Jerusalem when the time is right- Deuteronomy 30 vs 1 - 6. He repeatedly reminded Israel that the reason He would gather them back is not for Israel's sake but for the sake of His name and His honor- Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 32 & Ezekiel 36 . He promised to make an agreement of peace with the House of Israel, by which, He,the good Shepherd will gather His Israel back and cause them to obey Him carefully. He would put His mark on some and send them out to every tribe, every tongue and every nation to gather their brothers and sisters back to His Jerusalem - Isaiah 66.

The call that went out through Jesus Christ went out to those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins, those who are born of Israel. As Jesus Christ Himself declared, He was sent by God to call only those who are of the Lost sheep of israel. So either you take Him at His Word or you consider Him a liar.

Kobojunkie:
Called into the commonwealth of Israel? What the heck does that mean?

God cursed and scattered His sheep Israel to all 4 corners of the earth, promising that He will eventually them all back to His Jerusalem when the time is right- Deuteronomy 30 vs 1 - 6. He repeatedly reminded Israel that the reason He would gather them back is not for Israel's sake but for the sake of His name and His honor- Ezekiel 34 vs 1 - 32 & Ezekiel 36 . He promised to make an agreement of peace with the House of Israel, by which, He,the good Shepherd will gather His Israel back and cause them to obey Him carefully. He would put His mark on some and send them out to every tribe, every tongue and every nation to gather their brothers and sisters back to His Jerusalem - Isaiah 66.

The call that went out to those who have the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins, those who are born of Israel.

Are you part of scattered Israel? Why are you going to where you are not called?

The Commonwealth is the mix; Jesus in the house of the centurion, and Peter being called to kill and eat

You deny salvation to gentiles which with your own mouth you confess to be one.

MrPresident1:
1. Are you part of scattered Israel? Why are you going to where you are not called?

2. The Commonwealth is the mix; Jesus in the house of the centurion, and Peter being called to kill and eat

3. You deny salvation to gentiles which with your own mouth you confess to be one.

1. I got the called and because I accepted and obeyed, I become born of spirit(not to be confused with holy spirit) and entered into the Kingdom of God. I even heard the voice of angels rejoicing that i was found. What conclusion do you think should be drawn from that for one who believes Jesus Christ is not a Liar?

2. Jesus Christ never said healing from God belonged only to those who are of the House of Israel. Instead, as the Canaanite woman made clear to you in Matthew 15 vs 22 - 28 , the dogs aka non-isrealites are allowed to eat from the crumbs that fall from the master's table.

As for Peter's encounter, Peter was under the impression that salvation belonged only to the Jewish subset of Israel, which was against that declared by Jesus Christ hence the reason for His vision. Cornelius whom Peter visited was an Israelite and this was made clear in the context of the record on Him. Cornelius was described as a good/just man meaning He had to be an Israelite who lived according to God's Covenant, and his gifts to the poor, in obedience to God decree in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 -32 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 was what the angel pointed out.

3. The agreement and the Kingdom of God is not mjnd and hence I don't decide anything. God Himself decided He would give it only to the house of Israel. Jesus Christ made certain His followers were made aware of this Truth of God.

Kobojunkie:
1. I got the called and because I accepted and obeyed, I become born of spirit(not to be confused with holy spirit) and entered into the Kingdom of God. I even heard the voice of angels rejoicing that i was found. What conclusion do you think should be drawn from that for one who believes Jesus Christ is not a Liar?

2. Jesus Christ never said healing from God belonged only to those who are of the House of Israel. Instead, as the Canaanite woman made clear to you in Matthew 15 vs 22 - 28 , the dogs aka non-isrealites are allowed to eat from the crumbs that fall from the master's table.

As for Peter's encounter, Peter was under the impression that salvation belonged only to the Jewish subset of Israel, which was against that declared by Jesus Christ hence the reason for His vision. Cornelius whom Peter visited was an Israelite and this was made clear in the context of the record on Him. Cornelius was described as a good/just man meaning He had to be an Israelite who lived according to God's Covenant, and his gifts to the poor, in obedience to God decree in Ezekiel 18 vs 1 -32 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 was what the angel pointed out.

3. The agreement and the Kingdom of God is not mjnd and hence I don't decide anything. God Himself decided He would give it only to the house of Israel. Jesus Christ made certain His followers were made aware of this Truth of God.

Anyways, the point to you is made. You a gentile cannot stop anyone from becoming a part of the covenant. The same call that you heard and received is also available to everyone everywhere. Israel is not the circumcision of the flesh but of the Spirit and anyone who calls upon the name of the LORD in truth and in deed will be saved

MrPresident1:
Anyways, the point to you is made. You a gentile cannot stop anyone from becoming a part of the covenant. The same call that you heard and received is also available to everyone everywhere. Israel is not the circumcision of the flesh but of the Spirit and anyone who calls upon the name of the LORD in truth and in deed will be saved

Wrong! God said that call is only available to the seeds of Israel. Jesus Christ affirmed this fact by going as far as to warn His followers against giving that which is Holy to the dogs.

For the umpteenth time, if you don't believe God and you don't take Him at His Word, Jesus Christ, why bother wanting any of what He offers? You can't consider Him a liar yet expecting to have Him. It can never work.

P.s. you are free to continue with your conclusion that God is a Liar and Jesus Christ His worthless word. Goodluck!

Kobojunkie:
I heard the call, accepted and obeyed and as a result was able to enter into the Kingdom of God just as Jesus Christ said meaning I am of Israel as He said I ought to be in order to gain access.

I highly doubt I am a jew -- of the tribe of Benjamin or Judah or even Levi. I am more likely a gentile aka non-Jewish Israelite.

That's an oxymoron...

Dumbo

That's an oxymoron...

Jew is the New Testament term used to refer to the tribes of the Nation of Judea at the time of Jesus Christ. They were descendants of Benjamin, Judah and some of Levi. Samaritans refer primarily to the descendants of the tribe of Ephraim and Manasseh, the sons of Joseph. The other non- Jewish tribes had already been cursed and scattered at that point in time, this before the turn of the Jews.

Kobojunkie:
Jew is the New Testament term used to refer to the tribes of the Nation of Judea at the time of Jesus Christ. They were descendants of Benjamin, Judah and some of Levi. Samaritans refer primarily to the descendants of the tribe of Ephraim and Manasseh, the sons of Joseph. The other non- Jewish tribes had already been cursed and scattered at that point in time, this before the turn of the Jews.

First and foremost, there was never any jesus. He was just a fictional character in a story set in places that exist...

That aside, Jews are the children of Jacob/Israel....so if you belong to any of the tribe, you are a Jew.

Kobojunkie:
Do you even understand the meaning of that statement in bold?

That statement, as it clearly informs you, is only valid for those who are in Jesus Christ---- those who gain access into to the Kingdom of God. And as according Jesus Christ reminded you in His sermons, He was sent by the Father only to the lost sheep of israel meaning that only those who are of the lost sheep of israel can enter into the Kingdom of God. All others - the dogs aka non-isrealites - are not qualified to enter into relationship with Jesus Christ and are as such remain condemned according to God's judgment from the beginning.

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Recall Jesus Christ commands all to seek first the Kingdom of God? Well, you need to confirm you can and have gained entry info the Kingdom of God(and His righteousness) before you continue, so you are at least certain your are a part of His flock.

Thanks again . But you can either accept you(a gentile) has been grafted in (Rom 11 vs 17) or keep condemning yourself its a choice really. .God bless you.

@Harbibi, this is what Paul says to you in Romans 11. Follow the message from beginning here to ensure you understand what Paul is saying to you in the context of the Chapter.

1. So I ask, “Did God force his people to leave him?” Of course not. I myself am an Israelite. I am from the family of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God chose the Israelites to be his people before they were born. And he did not force them to leave. Surely you know what the Scriptures say about Elijah. The Scriptures tell about Elijah praying to God against the people of Israel. He said,
3 “Lord, they have killed your prophets and destroyed your altars. I am the only prophet still living, and they are trying to kill me now.”[a] 4 But what answer did God give to Elijah? God said, “I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have never given worship to Baal.”
5 It is the same now. God has chosen a few people by his grace.
6 And if he chose them by grace, then it is not what they have done that made them his people. If they could be made his people by what they did, his gift of grace would not really be a gift.
7 So this is what has happened: The people of Israel wanted God’s blessing, but they did not all get it. The people he chose did get his blessing, but the others became hard and refused to listen to him. - Romans 11 vs 1 - 6

In the above passage, Paul starts by introducing himself as a member of the tribe of Benjamin, one of the Jewish tribes — an israelite. Then Paul goes on to explain that in the beginning(when God made the Covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and then Jacob), God had chosen the people of Israel to be His people, not because they were a good people or because of their deeds but simply on grounds of the Covenant He made with their ancestors, as He God explained in both Deuteronomy 9 vs 1 - 6 & Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 .

Then Paul goes on to state that God, using HIs grace(Eternal life) is again selecting from the seed of Israel, a people who he will use for His glory. He, Paul, explains, that much like the first selection God made, these second batches God is choosing are chosen not on merit. In Verse 6-7, Paul further explains that the people of Israel as a whole refused to obey God, so God went ahead and chose for Himself some from among the same people. God then used His Spirit to cause some from among them to obey His Will, as God said He will in Ezekiel 36 vs 20 - 28. So, those that God chose got God's blessings whereas those from among Israel that God did not choose didn't

8 As the Scriptures say, “God caused the people to fall asleep.” “God closed their eyes so that they could not see, and he closed their ears so that they could not hear This continues until now.”
9 And David says, “Let those people be caught and trapped at their own feasts. Let them fall and be punished.
10 Let their eyes be closed so that they cannot see. And let them be troubled forever.”
11 So I ask: When the Jews fell, did that fall destroy them? No! But their mistake brought salvation to those who are not Jews. The purpose of this was to make the Jews jealous.
12 Their mistake brought rich blessings to the world. And what they lost brought rich blessings to the non-Jewish people. So surely the world will get much richer blessings when enough Jews become the kind of people God wants.
13 Now I am speaking to you people who are not Jews. I am an apostle to the non-Jewish people. So while I have that work, I will do the best I can.
14 I hope I can make my own people jealous. That way, maybe I can help some of them to be saved.
15 God turned away from the Jews. When that happened, he became friends with the other people in the world. So when he accepts the Jews, it will be like bringing people to life after death. - Romans 11 vs 8 - 15

During Paul's time, the nation of Israel, consisting of the other 10 tribes of Israel, had already been cursed and scattered by God to all the ends of the earth, leaving behind the nation of Judah — the Jewish nation. The Jews, also of the tribes of Israel, were the last to be cursed, and eventually scattered by God. So, in the passage above, Paul highlights that when God initially cursed the Jews— they were eventually scattered after the death of Paul— God used the opportunity to bring His long-promised agreement of peace, Jesus Christ, to the House of Jacob. However, since God had already cursed them at that point they couldn't, as a nation, partake of the blessings of the New Covenant. And as such their loss became a blessing to those who were non-Jewish of Israel, the rest of Israel aka the lost sheep of Israel - verse 15.

16 If the first piece of bread is offered to God, then the whole loaf is made holy. If the roots of a tree are holy, the tree’s branches are holy too.
17 It is as if some of the branches from an olive tree have been broken off, and the branch of a wild olive tree has been joined to that first tree. If you are not a Jew, you are the same as that wild branch, and you now share the strength and life of the first tree.
18 But don’t act as if you are better than those branches that were broken off. You have no reason to be proud of yourself, because you don’t give life to the root. The root gives life to you.
19 You might say, “Branches were broken off so that I could be joined to their tree.”
20 That is true. But those branches were broken off because they did not believe. And you continue to be part of the tree only because you believe. Don’t be proud, but be afraid.
21 If God did not let the natural branches of that tree stay, he will not let you stay if you stop believing. - Romans 11 vs 16 - 21

In the passage above, Paul uses an illustration regarding trees to explain the relationship between the New Covenant which God delivered to His people Israel through the Jewish subset. He regards the Covenant which God promised to the House of Jacob as an olive tree brought to them through the Jewish subset of Israel. He explained that the Jews who did not believe branches were cut off from the olive tree indicating that they could not partake of the life given by the olive tree from God because of their unbelief. Then Paul went on to describe as wild branches taken from another olive tree, the non-Jewish Israelites, who God then grafted onto the new olive tree.

In his illustration, Paul makes plain the olive tree relationship that exists here between the two sets of branches he discusses. The olive tree itself represents God's New Covenant agreement— the agreement of peace— promised by God to the House of Jacob. The wild branches which he references, he made certain to reveal were also cut from an olive tree. Paul did not speak of branches from a different kind of tree but instead of branches from another tree of the same kind as the one they were grafted onto— an olive tree. So, it makes sense to believe the wild olive branches that were grafted to the olive tree representing God's New agreement for the House of Jacob equally came from an olive tree which was given by God to the same House of Jacob.

In conclusion, Paul's illustration in Romans 11 which is openly addressed from its beginning to those who are of the House of Israel, is an illustration that applies only to those who are of the House of Israel(Jacob), particularly revealing the connection that still exists between the lost sheep of Israel and the Jewish tribes, even though at the time, many Jews regarded their scattered brethren to be of no value to God.

@Harbibi, also wanted to add that Paul's illustration in Romans 11 vs 16 - 21 is meant to elaborate on what Paul stated in the previous verses, Romans 11 vs 1 - 15.

MrPresident1:


Stop this nonsense immediately!

There is no Jew or Gentile in Christ Jesus, and anyone who calls upon the name of the LORD will be saved.

Na u get time dey argue with am.

Thanks everyone for contributing please keep it coming more people need to see the original post. God bless you all amen..